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    Default Acolyte of the Skin: a suggestion and a thread to discuss

    There a couple of ideas being discussed in the Closed beta/Enhancements thread about the new Sorcerer's PrE. The first one is the Battlemage and the second one is a charm based PrE.

    IMHO, giving Sorcerers a prestige like Battlemage will result in very few people taking it. That is because noone will ever prefer a Battlemage to a pure melee or a pure caster oriented build.

    A charm based PrE would just be hated by the entire party. Try to bring it in Prison of Planes-like quests and you will make everyone mad.

    These are my personal opinions about these 2 kind of PrEs.

    That's why, what Sorcerers' need is a more defensive focused PrE but with some offensive that coupled with the Sorcerers spells will make a decent build. That's why I decided to give this suggestion its own thread: TO DISCUSS ONLY ABOUT THIS PRE AND MY SUGGESTION, to brainstorm, feedback and maybe to come up with something that Devs may consider.

    This is a copy-past from the above mentioned thread:



    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post
    Please stop suggesting a charm based Sorcerer. Everyone in your group will hate you.


    Acolyte of the Skin I:

    You replace your own skin with a demon's one. You gain IMMUNITY to poision, +2 Con, 10 Fire Resistance, +2 Dodge and 2 Cold/Electric/Acid/Sonic Resistance. You gain +1 Max caster level and caster level to your fire spells. You summon the essence of a demon and are now able to cast Demonic rays Spell as SLA.

    • Demonic rays Spell: You emanate two rays from your eyes on one target. Each of them deals 1d3 per caster level, up to a maximum 15d3 at caster level 15. Cooldown 6 seconds.


    Acolyte of the Skin II:

    An acolyte’s skin and its wearer have grown more comfortable together, as if they had never been separate. You gain IMMUNITY to Disease, +2 Con (+4 total), 10 Fire resistance (+20 total), another +2 Dodge and 2 Cold/Electric/Acid/Sonic Resistance (+4 total). You gain +1 Max caster level and caster level to your fire spells. You are now able to cast Demonic Roar as SLA.

    • Demonic Roar: You roar like you never had in your whole life. You deal a 6d6 fire damage and your opponents become Shaken and Helpless for 2 seconds. This affects everything, including Undeads and Constructs. DC: 15 + Half character level + Cha Modifier + Fear based effects enhancements (the one in Draconic for example). AoE same as Haste and Daunting Roar. Cooldown 10 seconds.


    Acolyte of the Skin III:

    An acolyte's skin and its wearer are now the same entity. You gain Immunity to Blindness, +2 Con (+6 total), 10 Fire resistance (+30 total), +2 Dodge (+6 Dodge), +2 Cold/Electric/Acid/Sonic Resistance. You gain +1 Max caster level and caster level to your fire spells. Only the final death can separate you two. You also gain 25 DR/- . Your affinity with Fire is now at the maximum level. You also gain 20 Fire Spell power. You are now able to cast Demonic Fireball as Sla.

    • Demonic Fireball: You create a powerful ball of demoniac fire with your mouth. On impact, the explosion deals 1d3+1 fire damage per caster level, up to a maximum of 30d3+30 at Caster Level 30. This spell is too powerful for you and you need some time to heal your wounds. You suffer a -2 Con penalty lasting 6 seconds. AoE same as Delayed Blast Fireball. Cooldown 8 seconds.


    To summarize, you will have:

    30 Fire Resistance,
    6 Dodge,
    6 Element resistance
    3 MCL/CL to Fire spells
    Immunity to Blindess/Poision/Disease
    +6 Con
    25 DR/-
    +20 Fire Spell power.

    And the 3 SLAs that I've just made up.

    As you can see. this PrE is more defensive than offensive so most of these bonuses are written to achieve that goal. This PrE is for more survavibility hence why the Stun SLAs at tier two. However, being a demon, I feel also that we wouldn't be a real demon without a powerful offensive SLA. Being kinda powerful, the cooldown at tier 3 is 8 seconds, making it not really spammable. Can be increased to 10 seconds but then it would have the same cooldown as the stun.

    The Tier 1 SLA is basically a Lightning bolt of fire but single target, so worse than it in the end.
    The Tier 3 is an enhanced Delayed Blast Fireball, capped at caster level 30. You also suffer a -2 Con when you cast it. Being powerful has some consequences.


    I didn't include a summon at tier 3 because Turbine just can't make them useful. It would just be a waste of time and a waste of PrE.

    The trees with the new system could be arranged with something like this:

    Core abilities:

    T1: Immunity to poison, +2 con,
    T2: +1 MCL/CL
    T3: Immunity to disease, +2 con,
    T4: +1 MCL/CL
    T5: DEMON SKIN TOGGLE: Immunity to blindness, +2 con, +1 MCL/CL, +25 Fire Spell power, 25 DR/-


    Tier 1:

    Demonic rays Spell SLA
    Fire resistance, 3 rank, 2 AP each: 10/20/30 Fire resistance
    Elemental Resistance, 3 rank, 1 AP each: 2/4/6 Cold, Electric, Acid, Sonic Resistance
    Spell Crit chance I: +2% to Fire spells
    Electrocution for Fire spells.


    Tier 2:

    -
    Efficient Metamagic
    Pierce Dragon Resistance (Pre Req Elemental Resistance) 3 ranks, 2 AP each: You bypass 5/15/25 Fire resistance
    Spell crit chance II: +2% to Fire Spells
    Cha +2


    Tier 3:

    -
    Efficient Metamagic
    Spell pen 3 ranks, 1 ap each: +1/2/3 Spell pen
    Spell crit chance III: +2% to Fire Spells
    Cha +2


    Tier 4:

    Demonic Roar SLA: DC 15 + Half Character level + Cha mod + Fear based effect enhancements (like the one in the Draconic Incarnation)
    Efficient Metamagic
    Dodge I: +2% dodge
    Spell Crit chance: +2% to Fire spells
    Cha +2


    Tier 5:

    Demonic Fireball SLA
    -
    Dodge II: +2% dodge
    -
    Fearless demon, 2 ranks, 2 AP each: +1/+2 DC to Fear based Spells (our T5 SLA)



    Run out of time, might add something more later. Tell me what you think about this, I actually like it (crazy, right?)
    Last edited by Wizza; 07-10-2013 at 08:07 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by JOTMON View Post
    I don't think you get a choice.. you are Rys's minion..

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