Nauseated from Soloing

[SemiraLynn]

To sum things up...I am so sick of soloing 95% of this game. I can mostly overlook all the bugs. I can ignore most of the lag. I can try to forget about the bizarre game changes. But I cannot get around the utter lack of groups in this game. And it isn't even due to lack of people on a given day or time. The Who list is full of people at every level. There just don't seem to be any guilds or people on Orien that play how I play. Not one.

Leveling a TR is a gigantic headache. It's not that I can't solo these quests, it's that they are painfully boring or take five times longer to solo than if people actually hit some LFMs. Yeah I know...you don't want to chance losing that 10% xp by joining a pug. It's better to gain 0 xp and AFK on an airship or the bank. Post an LFM and rarely does anyone join even for high xp quests. Look for an LFM and...well...there aren't any in range.

Trying to acquire gear from raids or high end quests is out of the question now. Most raids are practically discontinued and others are rarely ran or require special access. If you don't know the host, declined. If you aren't in the right channel, declined. If you don't automatically know content you haven't ran before, declined.

Where are the people who just want to have fun, get gear, and earn xp? You have the new and casual players who want to have fun, but they don't really strive for the awesome gear and xp farming. Then you have the players who are obsessed with gear and/or xp. But they seem to make it their life mission to sap every ounce of fun from the game as possible and to insult everyone who isn't like them.

I haven't run across a single guild in the years I've played now that falls into the right mix of fun and advancement. Guilds just end up being places to acquire ship buffs to make soloing easier. They are all either empty, full of soloers, elitists, or some other extreme. I only have a handful of people on my friend's list that are worth partying with anymore. And even then they don't have the same play-styles so I'm still soloing for the most part.

I want to TR characters. I want to run raids. I want to acquire high end gear. I want to make my characters stronger and more fun to play. I also don't care about deaths. I don't care if someone doesn't know everything. I don't care if there's a break between quests. I don't care if people actually want to talk sometimes and take it easy. The vast majority of the issues in this game I lay at the feet of the player-base. The players are ruining what was a fun game.

So here's some popcorn. I'll wipe down the Lock Thread button so that it's ready to go. I'm not going to be responding to this thread so feel free to say how easy it is for you to find groups and have fun and that I'm just terrible or something. Feel free to post comments that confirm you didn't read a single word I posted. My favorite is "Post your own LFM". Because I've never tried that...yeah. Also feel free to insult me via some PMs. I don't like the forum layout so I never see or read those anyways.

[Fedora1]

I feel for you.

I like grouping, but not zerging. I like optionals and tactics over "race-to-the-end every-man-for-himself-unless-I-need-heals".

So I solo most of the time.

One thing that worked for me at least somewhat is a static group. We only meet on Sunday nights but we all enjoy the play style I mentioned above.

It might take some time, but if you post in the "Perma Death and Static Groups" section that you are looking for a static group (describing your play style) maybe in a couple weeks you would have a couple others (or even more) that you could group with a couple times a week. Believe me, even a couple times a week goes a long way toward enjoying the game again. It makes the times you have to solo more tolerable.

[Enoach]

I agree it is tough when you don't have a group of people such as a static group or even fellow guild members that like to enjoy the game in the same way that you do.

Couple options though

1. Try "Fishing" for like minded people during your "play" time. Forum posts and LFMs
2. Hunt down a guild on your server that has similar (if not exact) goals as yourself
3. "Visit" other servers for a Week

[Qhualor]

there are players out there like you OP. I seem to fit the play style you speak of. it does get boring and frustrating at times soloing most of the quests in DDO. I like to play a certain way, but most times I clash in groups. it doesn't matter if its guild or pug groups. I have to adjust how I play to the group which is usually hurry up and getterdone. sometimes I don't mind zerging, but that's usually when im near cap. its hard to get hits on your lfm sometimes when you post in the lfm notes something that is not IP, BYOH, zerg. the above posters gave some good advice.

[Ctype]

I have read your posts and feel your pain. I think the playstyle and friendly group in our guild could be a good fit for you but i have not posted because im not sure it will help you since my guild is with players from Europe. That would mean that our raids would be just after lunchtime if your in California. We raid friday, saturday and sunday and do a shroud on tuesdays if enough people wants to do it.
If you feel the time zone difference is not an issue and want to know more about Crusaders of Justice and what we are feel free to PM me or send me a tell in game. At the moment im mostly on Dtype, Ygolonar or my main Ctype.

In any case i hope you have more fun in the future.

[Atremus]

Did you not enjoy your time in Forgotten League?

There are groups of people TRing, LFms posted and surely raids run. I see plenty of FoT and CiTW pugged out on our Server throughout the week. There is even a VoN5/6 posted mid week. A possible explaination for the different view on things is the East Coast / West Coast time zone difference.

Sure the game is bleeding players, but it is 7 years old and people get bored after they have done everything possible or they get fed up with the features and so on. And sadly, if you don't want to solo, you can always post an LFM (All welcome, IP, etc.)

Yesterday we were running TRs and picked up a guy 2 days into DDO... Showing him the ropes was a lot of fun.

[Impaqt]

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I haven't run across a single guild in the years I've played now that falls into the right mix of fun and advancement. Guilds just end up being places to acquire ship buffs to make soloing easier. They are all either empty, full of soloers, elitists, or some other extreme. I only have a handful of people on my friend's list that are worth partying with anymore. And even then they don't have the same play-styles so I'm still soloing for the most part.

I want to TR characters. I want to run raids. I want to acquire high end gear. I want to make my characters stronger and more fun to play. I also don't care about deaths. I don't care if someone doesn't know everything. I don't care if there's a break between quests. I don't care if people actually want to talk sometimes and take it easy. The vast majority of the issues in this game I lay at the feet of the player-base. The players are ruining what was a fun game.

So here's some popcorn. I'll wipe down the Lock Thread button so that it's ready to go. I'm not going to be responding to this thread so feel free to say how easy it is for you to find groups and have fun and that I'm just terrible or something. Feel free to post comments that confirm you didn't read a single word I posted. My favorite is "Post your own LFM". Because I've never tried that...yeah. Also feel free to insult me via some PMs. I don't like the forum layout so I never see or read those anyways.

Start your own guild?

Change servers?

[eden2760]

Sorry to say, but this thread is chock-full of what's *really* wrong with online gaming in general. Accept that this is the way the world (not just gaming) is, or move on.

Where are the people who just want to have fun, get gear, and earn xp? You have the new and casual players who want to have fun, but they don't really strive for the awesome gear and xp farming. Then you have the players who are obsessed with gear and/or xp. But they seem to make it their life mission to sap every ounce of fun from the game as possible and to insult everyone who isn't like them.

...heh? I'd like you to read that quote back to yourself, particularly the last sentence. Isn't that what you're doing? Hi pot. I'm kettle. Nice to meetcha.

I'd say there are some on this server who feel that minimaxing their characters and/or participating in the xp grind are the way they have fun. I enjoy the challenge of seeing if I can beat my best time in a quest, or beat my best time in making it through a certain level.

I haven't run across a single guild in the years I've played now that falls into the right mix of fun and advancement. Guilds just end up being places to acquire ship buffs to make soloing easier. They are all either empty, full of soloers, elitists, or some other extreme. I only have a handful of people on my friend's list that are worth partying with anymore. And even then they don't have the same play-styles so I'm still soloing for the most part.

Not every guild is an extreme, and extreme is a matter of perspective. You're making it pretty clear that any view that is not yours is viewed by you as an extreme.

With that said, you'd probably be better off making your own guild. Making it clear what the spirit of the guild is for people who join, making policies that go along with that spirit, and managing your members based on that criteria. Complaining that there are no guilds that meet your criteria, when it is well within your power to carve out your own is kind of silly.

Try to find a place where you belong, or make one and attract like-minded people.

I want to TR characters. I want to run raids. I want to acquire high end gear. I want to make my characters stronger and more fun to play. I also don't care about deaths. I don't care if someone doesn't know everything. I don't care if there's a break between quests. I don't care if people actually want to talk sometimes and take it easy. The vast majority of the issues in this game I lay at the feet of the player-base. The players are ruining what was a fun game.

Some people do care about xp/minute and do care about making the most of their time in-game. This can be out of necessity. Think about people that have 40-50 hour week jobs, and/or have families that they have to also interact with? It could be that these types of individuals choose to play in this manner to do just that: get as much character progress as they can in the very limited time they have to log.

There is more to consider here than just "exclusionists meanies" being the way they are because they think it's fun to "pick on the little guy". It would probably be best not to flame the population of Orien because we're all a bunch of evil elitist xp/minute bully nazis. I'm sure there are some (I've seen them), but I don't think this is the way the majority of those whom you would lump into this group are. A person's time is their own. Who are you to judge their motivations for how they spend it?

In short, people who don't share your philosophy on DDO play aren't inherently wrong just because of that. There's often more going on behind the scenes than you can see. You have to remember that there are real people on the other side of the screen.

Also, noone is forcing their philosophy on you. You have the capability to solo. You also have the capability to choose whom you play with, or don't play with. So either solo or take the time to find a group of like-minded people. If it's that important to you, you'll do it (or maybe not).

[susiedupfer]

Let me get this straight...YOU want everyone else to comply with YOUR play-style?

Also, every guild, every group you have encountered has the same issues?

What might be the common denominator here?

I understand you were gone from DDO for a while. We grew and developed our characters, and adapted to a new way of doing things. You seem not to be able to cope with the changes. So, this is now our fault?

[TrinityTurtle]

Did you not enjoy your time in Forgotten League?

Aw...forgotten League is still going strong? Hurray! I was on Orien looking for an old friend the other day and didn't see anyone on it, and was sad that maybe it had died after all this time. Dre, Ceasar, Betelgeuse and I started that guild (Unless it died die and another cropped up with the same name) back in the day when Orien was still kinda new. Give everyone a hug from Turtle. It was originally called Forgotten Legion, but I bought a name change to League after a guild merge.

[Atremus]

Aw...forgotten League is still going strong? Hurray! I was on Orien looking for an old friend the other day and didn't see anyone on it, and was sad that maybe it had died after all this time. Dre, Ceasar, Betelgeuse and I started that guild (Unless it died die and another cropped up with the same name) back in the day when Orien was still kinda new. Give everyone a hug from Turtle. It was originally called Forgotten Legion, but I bought a name change to League after a guild merge.

Same guild, new crop of minions under our control. Sadly I haven't seen most of the original members log in for a year or more. Will put something in the MoTD and see who notices.

[Phyrewire]

To sum things up...I am so sick of soloing 95% of this game.

Turbine made it exceptionally easy to bypass the whole need for groups. The new changes coming up will expand the existing gap in which groups will not be needed. I'm personally disappointed in the level cap increase because it's so cliché, and I was hoping with a complete launch of the new enhancements with expanded prestige builds than juggle heroic and non-heroic class types. I don't see the new expansion more encouragement to group.

I'll still keep an eye on the LFM while I'm soloing. My new amusement has been assassinating out an entire Epic dungeon before the boss fight.

[zwiebelring]

@OP
The only longterm motivation is TR. Take this away, what else is left? Past life feats are crucial and not optional any more. That all forces you into mind-numbing grinds.

And mind-numbing grind is best done when being alone or in small groups, like a duo or trio.

[DDOisFree]

Most people only want to level up to 20 as fast as possible, and then TR. For that purpose, they are only bothered about XP per minute. If it takes significantly less time to zerg a quest without optionals than it takes to fully complete it, then these players will simply get it done as fast as they can and then farm it.

This is pretty much how every MMO is, minus the TR part.

[TrinityTurtle]

Same guild, new crop of minions under our control. Sadly I haven't seen most of the original members log in for a year or more. Will put something in the MoTD and see who notices.

LOL Well, I wish the new minions masses of joy, good loot, and great memories.

[danotmano1998]

OP, you are exactly the kind of player our guild is looking for.

Too bad you said you wouldn't come back and read this thread, for if you should ever wander over to Thelanis, Curelite Bottling Co. has a spot just for you ready and waiting.

If you DO happen to read this, feel free to hit up any member of our guild for an invite. Happy playing!

[Livmo]

I almost exclusivly PUG on Sarlona. I'm not into ship buffs. Very flexible and easy going. I like to share. Come play with me on Sarlona. Or maybe I start another toon on Orien, but I like pugging on Sarlona better. I haven't tried Thelanis yet, but have heard good things about that server. Maybe start a toon there as well.

[DeKalbSun]

Usually when I find pugging to be slow for my main, I'll switch to a lower level alt and run a couple of quests that way. Usually,
I can find a group within range for one of my alts. Maybe not as fullfilling as running quest for your main toon, but sometimes
its a nice break, espeacially when the LFM is slow. Its also a great way to meet new toons you might otherwise not have a chance
too.

[Axelza]

I know that feel op , i made a cleric to heal groups , not i run around solo all the time

Add Oddeye to friends !

[Icywave]

Only been at the game for a few months, but I never really found it hard to get groups.

If you open the LFM and stare at it.. sure, you'll wait!. Been there the first few days

My way to go ... Decide what YOU wanna do, post it up in LFM, buff up, get ready, by that time, you'll probably have 2-3 players, and just get going! Always keep your stuff up in LFM and group will eventually be complete and stick together if moving well.

Be pro-active, that's all. Then you'll get to know good folks that you like to run with, and vice-versa, and eventually you'll easily have people to get your stuff done.