Horc Barb Build for 2nd Barb life

[Karadon_II]

I know the new enhancement system will arrive soon and change everything but I was hoping someone could look over this build and comment, positive or negative, I'll read it all. Thank you.

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Bothar Smartaxe II
Level 20 True Neutral Half-Orc Male
(20 Barbarian) 
Hit Points: 470
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 6
Will: 6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             20                    32
Dexterity             9                    10
Constitution         18                    24
Intelligence          6                     8
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma              7                     8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 10
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 10
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 14
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               0                    11
Bluff                -2                    -1
Concentration         4                     7
Diplomacy            -2                    -1
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                    -1
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate           -2                     1
Jump                  5                    21
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair               -2                    -1
Search               -2                    -1
Spot                  1                    11
Swim                  5                    11
Tumble                0                     1.5
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Barbarian)


Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Berserker's Fury


Level 4 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Barbarian)


Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave


Level 7 (Barbarian)


Level 8 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 10 (Barbarian)


Level 11 (Barbarian)


Level 12 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Barbarian)


Level 14 (Barbarian)


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Barbarian)


Level 18 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 19 (Barbarian)


Level 20 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost III
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack III
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker II
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker III
Enhancement: Barbarian Might
Enhancement: Orcish Fury I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Rage I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude I
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude II
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness II

[ycheese123]

I think it looks fine. Those are the feats I'd take on a pure 20 barb as well. And then for the 2 epic feats: Great cleave and Overwhelming critical. For your enhancements drop orcish fury and take orcish extra action boost, drop weapon aptitude 2&3 and take orcish strength 2 and.. something else.

My main character is a barb, and I've been playing his current life for 2years as a 18bbn/2ftr split. I can post my info if you're interested. If I TR'd as a barb again I think I would go 18bbn/2rog for more versitility + evasion.

[Karadon_II]

for the 2 epic feats: Great cleave and Overwhelming critical.

Probably won't be taking him much past 20 other than to see what he can do while at 20 in comparison to my 1st life Dwarf BBN, but I'll keep these in mind.

For your enhancements drop orcish fury and take orcish extra action boost, drop weapon aptitude 2&3 and take orcish strength 2 and.. something else.

I'll consider this, but I'd prefer an even STR @ 20 this life. I daresay there'll be more changes to this with the new enhancements. All flexable and easy to change anyway.

My main character is a barb, and I've been playing his current life for 2years as a 18bbn/2ftr split. I can post my info if you're interested.

Cool, I am indeed interested if you have the details handy, thank you very much.

[ycheese123]

I daresay there'll be more changes to this with the new enhancements. All flexable and easy to change anyway.

True, true.


My character planner file is a bit outdated; I've changed things since I made it, so...

18bbn/2ftr

My original starting scores(34pt):
20str, 14dex, 16con, 8int, 8wis, 6cha
All lvlups into STR.
Tomes I've aquired from questing: 4s,3d,3c,4i,3w,4c

If I rolled it now I'd probably go:
19s, 12d, 17c, 8i, 8w, 8c.
Or... 18s, 13d, 17c, 8i, 10w, 8c.


Feats:
Toughness
Power Attack
Cleave
Two handed fighting
Great Cleave
Stunning Blow
IC:Slashing
Impv Two handed fighting
Great Two handed fighting
Overwhelming Crit (pre req: cleave>great cleave, impv cirt, 23STR)
Epic toughness (pre req: toughness, 21CON)

I actually dont have epic toughness right now becuause I started w/ 16con and I only have a +3con tome. I have Berserker's fury, which I had since a long time ago when it gave double str&con. Its kind of a waste nowadays to have both toughness and berserkers fury though, imo. I see that you have a +4con tome, so 17con would be enough for you to get epic toughness -- if you were to do 18/2, and do epic levels.

Enhancements:
Barb sprint boost I
Barb extra rage II
Barb Con II
Barb extend rage III
Barb power attack III
Barb toughness III
Barb Hardy rage III
Barb power rage III
Barb Frenzy Berserker III
Barb dmg boost IV
Orcish extra action boost I
Orcish weapon apt. I
Orcish power attack I
Orcish power rage I
Orcish Str II
Orcish melee dmg II
Orcish toughness II
Fightr Str I
Fighter haste boost I

Skills:
Jump, Imtim, Balance, minor Umd, enough tumble to tumble.

Anyway, that's just my character. Your build would do just fine the way you posted it.

[Karadon_II]

I'll certainly consider the BBN18/FTR2 split for the 3rd life run, seems to offer more than the BBN capstone does now [unless there some new capstones to consider].

Cheers for all that, most appreciated.

[nni]

Get Great Cleave at lvl 6. Drop whatever you fancy. I would drop Toughness/Barb PL.

Nothing will improve your dps more at lower levels than spamming cleave and GC on groups of mobs. Unless you play in an extremely cautious mob by mob basis.

In any case I would splash 2 Fighter. Especially if you are not going to be playing at cap. Even for an end-game build I still prefer 2 Fighter splash over pure.

[Ambulance]

as for the skills, I think spending skill points into swim is a complete waste. Why would you want to swim faster? There are not many places where you will be out of breath too quickly if swim a little bit slower.. if you really think you might drown somewhere, you can just get a UWA item

you only need to have your jump skill at 10, since you will get it maxed through a pot/spell

spend the rest into balance and spot (spot is very useful to see the more deadly enemies early [casters mainly, whom you should take out asap, especially when your doing stuff on elite])

[RTFM]

In my opinion if you are just doing a "barb" life for the "barb" PL, I would not even bother going pure barb. Barbs really shine at cap. On the way there I find them boring and not really fun for the TR grind, I would do something like:

7barb/7rogue/6FTR - you can do all traps, have a lot more feats, UMD, evasion, nice for leveling going to be a lot more entertaining than a PURE barb to lvl. The last two barb levels I would not even take till 19/20. I've done this build and kept him at cap from the release of MOTU (U14) through U15 and really enjoyed it even at cap.



9barb/9bard/2rogue - traps, UMD, party buffs (warchanter buffs are nice for leveling), self + party healing, facinate. This thing is going to be fun to lvl, very diverse, easy to solo with a big toolbox, + evasion. Again, lvl 18/19 would be barb levels.

But, all that being said, if you want to go pure barb by all means do it! But you can get BARB PL credit with a much more diverse set of skills than hulk smash [please heal me, buff me] toon.

[RTFM]

	
	
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DOOF BARB.FTR.ROG
Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
(6 Fighter \ 8 Barbarian \ 6 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 384
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 17
Will: 10

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             15                 23                   26
Dexterity            16                 19                   21
Constitution         15                 18                   21
Intelligence         15                 18                   18
Wisdom                9                 12                   12
Charisma              9                 12                   12

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               3                 11                   15
Bluff                 3                  5                    5
Concentration         2                  5                    5
Diplomacy             3                 17                   17
Disable Device        6                 27                   27
Haggle                3                  5                    5
Heal                 -1                  1                    1
Hide                  3                  5                    5
Intimidate           -1                  1                    1
Jump                  6                 17                   19
Listen               -1                  1                    1
Move Silently         7                  9                    9
Open Lock             7                 28                   28
Perform              n/a                n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                  4                    4
Search                6                 27                   27
Spot                  3                 20                   20
Swim                  2                  9                    9
Tumble                7                 11                   15
Use Magic Device      3                 24                   27

Notable Equipment
Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Goggles of Existential Stalemate 
 Minos Legens 
 Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Necklace of Smoke 
 The Blood Stone 
 Charismatic +6 Cloak of Protection +5 
 Belt of Thoughtful Rememberance 
 Ogre Power +6 Ring of Persuasion 
 Spectral Gloves 
 Boots of the Innocent 
 Proof against Poison Ring of Greater False Life 
 Bracelet of Thaarak 
 Breastplate of Destruction 
  
 Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding


Level 2 (Barbarian)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Rage
Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Rage
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Mobility
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency


Level 4 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Spring Attack


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Whirlwind Attack


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+5)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense


Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Trapmaking
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge (Dodge Bonus)


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Diplomacy (+5)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device


Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Swim (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 14 (Barbarian)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Damage Reduction


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense


Level 16 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 17 (Barbarian)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 18 (Barbarian)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 19 (Barbarian)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Barbarian)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Uncanny Dodge
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery III
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Improved Balance I
Enhancement: Improved Balance II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness II
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness III
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery II

[Rubbinns]

Fan of the 18/2 rogue split mainly for evasion, haste and umd boost. Agree with RTFM, Barbs don't get goods until lv18 which I won't see until I'm ready to tr. 12 levels is fine and accessible early enough to get mileage on the 3rd cleave and +1 critical multiplier on rolls of 19-20 from the PrE.