Should we stay or should wei go

[sdrocky]

Thank you for your offer :-)

It has always been this way regarding my playstyle in MMOs. Except for GW2 and Rift where Open World partying is quite easy and done fastly. It takes a good amount of time for me to get habituated to a new MMO World and Character Class(es), so the first weeks I prefer to solo what's soloable - or as its called moloing (with hirelings) here. The hireling concept isn't new to me, I know it from SWTOR and NWO too. I heard that in the beginning after release DDO was said to be a pure party game, but this truly changed after the hirelings and the difficulty scaling were introduced. So yes, now it is a soloists/moloists paradise and offers both a lot of of soloable content and team/party content too, like all the other MMOs out there.

@Sabirah
I do not have enough time to play different games. When I decide to play a MMO, I log in a few minutes/hours a day (depending) and play. I'm not always in the mood for party gameplay, so why should I quit the MMO world when I'm in the mood for soloing? This won't cut me off from the world though, since there's plenty other MM things like chat channels (you won't advise to leave and use icq instead?), the auction house or just possibilities to learn more about locations, e.g. recently I got my firstlife wizard to level 9 and all I did the following hour was teleporting around To wit: not party-minded but it was fun (you won't advise to leave and play Portal instead?).

Like i said. anytime look me up. more than happy to help you out and show you around. even farm some nice loots with you if you like.

cheers

Fin*

[Sabirah]

Thank you for your offer :-)

@Sabirah
I do not have enough time to play different games. When I decide to play a MMO, I log in a few minutes/hours a day (depending) and play. I'm not always in the mood for party gameplay, so why should I quit the MMO world when I'm in the mood for soloing? This won't cut me off from the world though, since there's plenty other MM things like chat channels (you won't advise to leave and use icq instead?), the auction house or just possibilities to learn more about locations, e.g. recently I got my firstlife wizard to level 9 and all I did the following hour was teleporting around To wit: not party-minded but it was fun (you won't advise to leave and play Portal instead?).

I do not dismiss your playstyle, please do not get me wrong. I am only saying in my own personal experience, I pay to play a game the way it was meant to be played. (Why do you think there are less than 10 solo-difficulty quests in the game? ;P) I am a social person, I enjoy playing with others. I have logged onto Wayfinder every day for the past week and have seen about 7-8 lfms up TOTAL no matter the time of day, as well as about 60 players online TOTAL, also no matter the time of the day. As a social person, who does not have local friends around to be with (since I moved across country to be with my husband), that depresses me. So I left and went to Argonessen. Like I said, I am not discriminating against those players who wish to solo on an MMORPG. I am merely saying that I MYSELF as a player prefer to play with other people, and I know I am not the only one. And if people wish to join my husband and I on Argo, then the invitation is there.

Happy hunting, soloing or not!

Lacunah Coil,
Successor to Argonessen guild, Claddagh.

[adamkatt]

Why do you think there are less than 10 solo-difficulty quests in the game?.

Most quests used to have a the solo option. Solo was changed to casual.

I think its funny when someone refers to leaving a server.. you dont need to leave you just create characters on different servers. THats what ive always done. Only time a character transfer would ever be really a must is when you have a char with waaaaay too many past lives.

[sdrocky]

Most quests used to have a the solo option. Solo was changed to casual.

I think its funny when someone refers to leaving a server.. you dont need to leave you just create characters on different servers. THats what ive always done. Only time a character transfer would ever be really a must is when you have a char with waaaaay too many past lives.

Or you want a good kick start on a new server. I moved my main from cannith to wayfinder when the free transfer's were on. Nice kick start even if he was just a level 9. he was also 50/50/50 in crafting and my oath that also made life easy.

[Sabirah]

Or you want a good kick start on a new server. I moved my main from cannith to wayfinder when the free transfer's were on. Nice kick start even if he was just a level 9. he was also 50/50/50 in crafting and my oath that also made life easy.

My husband and I moved several toons who were capped (20 at the time) and fully geared, some with past lives, over to Wayfinder when it opened. Between us we had a couple million plat. It made life very easy, if only to pimp other toons we just made. At the time, we couldn't get a group because we were too high, lol! But yeah, I had to start over on Argo (again), and before my transfers got over, I had to restart from scratch... my offer is to help others to do so, too.

Wayfinder is the recommended server for new players. And without a doubt, there are people who are starting on that server, feeling discouraged about how empty it is, assume all servers are like that, then proceed to uninstall DDO from their computers and move onto something else. This saddens me. I want people to enjoy the game like I do.

Since my husband and myself have moved, we have each gotten a few of our toons back from Wayfinder (before the server transfers broke), and have since then accumulated much more gear and plat. My husband's completionist has 150 in all crafting skills. We simply wish to help others who are in the same predicament we were. We want to help them get back into the game they once loved. I, personally, don't want people to feel like they are stuck on Wayfinder. I want to give them options.

I know there are those of you that prefer the smaller server size and that enjoy soloing. I do not discourage you. I am speaking to those that feel helpless in their predicament because if they start over on another server, they have no money and no friends to assist them. I want to extend my aid to those specific players.

As before mentioned, my mains are Jessimica, Sabiraah, Kaiie, Faiithe, and Lacunah on Argonessen. Feel free to look for me or send me an in-game mail.

Lacunah,
Successor to Argonessen guild, Claddagh.

[Lanhelin]

Wayfinder is the recommended server for new players. And without a doubt, there are people who are starting on that server, feeling discouraged about how empty it is, assume all servers are like that, then proceed to uninstall DDO from their computers and move onto something else. This saddens me. I want people to enjoy the game like I do.

It saddens me, that you think about it this way. Because no new player in any MMO expects that there must be solid group gameplay from the beginning in the starting zone until highend. No one. In fact many new players want enough time and space to get into the game and their favorite class. They do not feel discouraged, they do not uninstall DDO and they do not move onto something else.

Wayfinder is growing. Sadly you left. We miss you

[Tscheuss]

But we will leave the porch light on for when you decide to come back home.

[Sabirah]

It saddens me, that you think about it this way. Because no new player in any MMO expects that there must be solid group gameplay from the beginning in the starting zone until highend. No one. In fact many new players want enough time and space to get into the game and their favorite class. They do not feel discouraged, they do not uninstall DDO and they do not move onto something else.

Wayfinder is growing. Sadly you left. We miss you

When I joined Wayfinder, it was MANY times bigger than what it is now, and that was on the first week the server opened. I've it on good authority that that is exactly what new players are doing: joining the game on Wayfinder, seeing not many people around, no one to answer their questions (as new players are want to have) and feeling discouraged and leave. Wayfinder is TINY now. I still have two 20'th lvl fvs over there and I log on each day and see that there are 2 lfms, 60 people or less on... And shrinking. Even Superiority Complex, one of the first guilds on the server, one of the first to lvl 60, the guild I was in, is losing people. Pretty soon only the dedicated players will be left and that will be about 20. And then Turbine will have to figure out another way to grow the server (besides 10% xp, which really doesn't work, now does it?) or merge it into another international server, or just scrap it as a failed project altogether.

Every major MMO I've tried, including my first from Everquest at age 10, to Anarchy Online, to DDO (on Thelanis) and even silly ftp MMO's with awesome graphics but cheesy gameplay like Perfect/Forsaken World, there is always solid group gameplay or at least many players in the new zone to help a newbie out. Unfortunately, Wayfinder does not include itself in that category. Any MMO worth its money has people playing it in the newbie zone and having fun and exploring and answering each other's questions to ENCOURAGE other players to join and do the same.

Because Idk about you, but I went through a phase when Wayfinder started its descent where I gave up on DDO and looked for other games that were ftp. When I would find a game, try it out, and there's no one around to answer a simple question like where's the closest merchant (after exploring), I got discouraged. I stopped logging in. And eventually, I uninstalled the game and looked for another. And another after I encountered the same deal. Eventually, I went back to DDO, but on Argo. As dead as Wayfinder is, and still shrinking, DDO is losing customers by making Wayfinder its 'recommended' server and offering 10% xp to that server and not others. Its a bribe and its failing.

I'm not trying to provoke or antagonize anyone. I am only trying to offer a way out for players who empathize with me.
And honestly, I WISH a dev will reply to this thread so we can at least have an idea if we are wasting our efforts on Wayfinder. Free character transfers ON or off sound really good about now.

Lacunah,
Successor to Argonessen guild, Claddagh.

[sdrocky]

When I joined Wayfinder, it was MANY times bigger than what it is now, and that was on the first week the server opened. I've it on good authority that that is exactly what new players are doing: joining the game on Wayfinder, seeing not many people around, no one to answer their questions (as new players are want to have) and feeling discouraged and leave. Wayfinder is TINY now. I still have two 20'th lvl fvs over there and I log on each day and see that there are 2 lfms, 60 people or less on... And shrinking. Even Superiority Complex, one of the first guilds on the server, one of the first to lvl 60, the guild I was in, is losing people. Pretty soon only the dedicated players will be left and that will be about 20. And then Turbine will have to figure out another way to grow the server (besides 10% xp, which really doesn't work, now does it?) or merge it into another international server, or just scrap it as a failed project altogether.

Every major MMO I've tried, including my first from Everquest at age 10, to Anarchy Online, to DDO (on Thelanis) and even silly ftp MMO's with awesome graphics but cheesy gameplay like Perfect/Forsaken World, there is always solid group gameplay or at least many players in the new zone to help a newbie out. Unfortunately, Wayfinder does not include itself in that category. Any MMO worth its money has people playing it in the newbie zone and having fun and exploring and answering each other's questions to ENCOURAGE other players to join and do the same.

Because Idk about you, but I went through a phase when Wayfinder started its descent where I gave up on DDO and looked for other games that were ftp. When I would find a game, try it out, and there's no one around to answer a simple question like where's the closest merchant (after exploring), I got discouraged. I stopped logging in. And eventually, I uninstalled the game and looked for another. And another after I encountered the same deal. Eventually, I went back to DDO, but on Argo. As dead as Wayfinder is, and still shrinking, DDO is losing customers by making Wayfinder its 'recommended' server and offering 10% xp to that server and not others. Its a bribe and its failing.

I'm not trying to provoke or antagonize anyone. I am only trying to offer a way out for players who empathize with me.
And honestly, I WISH a dev will reply to this thread so we can at least have an idea if we are wasting our efforts on Wayfinder. Free character transfers ON or off sound really good about now.

Lacunah,
Successor to Argonessen guild, Claddagh.

Wayfinder is not recommended server anymore, that lasted about 48 hours, even wayfinder people don't want that. and if you test it dosn't come up first all the time.

All we asked for was the DE to be removed. That's been done.

The rest of your comments, Meh.. this thread is for the people who are still here and discussing what they want to do. not the ones that have already left.

you don't need to justify yourself to us. We actually don't care.

Good luck to you and your guild. they will have to force me to leave.

cheers

Fin*

[BOgre]

there are 2 lfms, 60 people or less on... And shrinking.
Pretty soon only the dedicated players will be left and that will be about 20.

It's this kind of blatant misinformation that causes the doom threads these boards are famous for. Wayfinder IS about 1/6th as busy as the other servers, but even that still counts for something like 2800 logins per day. Your numbers are just plain fear mongering. Can Wayfinder (and DDO in general) stand a boost to population? Of course. Advertising and Marketing are probably Turbines most tragic weakness, but let's not burn the barn just yet.

[Sabirah]

It's this kind of blatant misinformation that causes the doom threads these boards are famous for. Wayfinder IS about 1/6th as busy as the other servers, but even that still counts for something like 2800 logins per day. Your numbers are just plain fear mongering. Can Wayfinder (and DDO in general) stand a boost to population? Of course. Advertising and Marketing are probably Turbines most tragic weakness, but let's not burn the barn just yet.

Blatant misinformation? I log on every day to Wayfinder, and watch with my own eyes, the lfms and who window, sometime for hours, hoping to see something change, or maybe to see my friends log on. I count the lfms. I count the people online. This is not misinformation at all, this is average. I didn't start this thread, I'm not about the doom of Wayfinder. I wish that Turbine would find a way to restore Wayfinder's former population... maybe better advertising, offering free character transfers onto the server like they did in the beginning, something. I've friends who are on that server still, and stuck. They don't log on anymore because they are stuck. Its not just me. And I know its not just them. I'm trying to help by offering a way out for disgruntled players before Turbine decides to scrap Wayfinder for good, leaving players stranded. I've seen it happen on other games.

[sdrocky]

Blatant misinformation? I log on every day to Wayfinder, and watch with my own eyes, the lfms and who window, sometime for hours, hoping to see something change, or maybe to see my friends log on. I count the lfms. I count the people online. This is not misinformation at all, this is average. I didn't start this thread, I'm not about the doom of Wayfinder. I wish that Turbine would find a way to restore Wayfinder's former population... maybe better advertising, offering free character transfers onto the server like they did in the beginning, something. I've friends who are on that server still, and stuck. They don't log on anymore because they are stuck. Its not just me. And I know its not just them. I'm trying to help by offering a way out for disgruntled players before Turbine decides to scrap Wayfinder for good, leaving players stranded. I've seen it happen on other games.

So if your on for so long why don't you post one.

I do.

quest blah, ip anyone welcome is usually what i say.

sometimes i get ppl. sometimes not.

The bang you saw when u first started on Wayfinder was all the TP favor runners getting there first time TP rewards.

And even though you believe its getting worse. i can see a positive increase in the numbers.

and i also am on everyday. And ive aslo seen over 150 peeps on over the weekend.

Anyway, we don't want a way out or we would of already left.

[blackdoguk]

The rest of your comments, Meh.. this thread is for the people who are still here and discussing what they want to do. not the ones that have already left.

you don't need to justify yourself to us. We actually don't care.
*

You don't consider the opinion of somebody who evidently cares about the state of Wayfarer to be relevant? When considering a course of action, be it one way or another, don't you think it prudent to consult those who, you know, have actually done it already?

Your strict thread participation requirements are BS, and I think your adversarial attitude is brought on by frustration with the game, as opposed to this forum poster.

[sdrocky]

You don't consider the opinion of somebody who evidently cares about the state of Wayfarer to be relevant? When considering a course of action, be it one way or another, don't you think it prudent to consult those who, you know, have actually done it already?

Your strict thread participation requirements are BS, and I think your adversarial attitude is brought on by frustration with the game, as opposed to this forum poster.

i suppose your entitled to your opinion.

as am i to mine.

[blackdoguk]

i suppose your entitled to your opinion.

as am i to mine.

Agreed sir!

[Tscheuss]

You don't consider the opinion of somebody who evidently cares about the state of Wayfarer to be relevant? When considering a course of action, be it one way or another, don't you think it prudent to consult those who, you know, have actually done it already?

Your strict thread participation requirements are BS, and I think your adversarial attitude is brought on by frustration with the game, as opposed to this forum poster.

It just get tiresome hearing from all those doomsayers who advocate merging Wayfinder with another server while they go on about how their own server is so great with their thriving metro populations. Why should the opinions of those who don't play on Wayfinder carry any weight in this thread?

[blackdoguk]

It just get tiresome hearing from all those doomsayers who advocate merging Wayfinder with another server while they go on about how their own server is so great with their thriving metro populations. Why should the opinions of those who don't play on Wayfinder carry any weight in this thread?

I can sympathise with this, and I really do wish this wasn't the case. As I see it none of our servers exist strictly in a vacuum, and we can include the experiences of players old and current in guaging what might be the best course of action for those still around, but thats just my subjective approach to a problem i guess. I hope the server gets an influx of players as it deserves.

[Sabirah]

So if your on for so long why don't you post one.

I do.

quest blah, ip anyone welcome is usually what i say.

sometimes i get ppl. sometimes not.

The bang you saw when u first started on Wayfinder was all the TP favor runners getting there first time TP rewards.

And even though you believe its getting worse. i can see a positive increase in the numbers.

and i also am on everyday. And ive aslo seen over 150 peeps on over the weekend.

Anyway, we don't want a way out or we would of already left.

I do post lfms. And no one joins. I have two lvl 20 fvs that both need their Eveningstar quests. I try every day to make progress. I'm not so much as a doomsayer as someone who's saddened by the deterioration of the server I used to call home. I want the server to repopulate again, not just with favor farmers, but with players who want to stick around. This forum's title is Should we stay or should we go. As in both options are being considered. I'm only trying to help those who are for the latter option. I am not patronizing or insulting or condescending or whatever you want to call it, players who wish to stay. I wish those players the best of luck, as I am trying to make progress on that server myself, and failing. Like I said in my original post, I am a social person. I pay to play an MMORPG. Meaning I like to play with other players, as the acronym implies. And when I can't find other players to play with, it depresses me. So I did find a way out. And I am trying to help others who are also seeking a way out. I am not ''doomsaying'' the server; everything I've said so far is from my own observation over the last year.

Don't be frustrated at me. I'm only trying to help, be it one way or the other.

[ppsm09]

It saddens me, that you think about it this way. Because no new player in any MMO expects that there must be solid group gameplay from the beginning in the starting zone until highend. No one. In fact many new players want enough time and space to get into the game and their favorite class. They do not feel discouraged, they do not uninstall DDO and they do not move onto something else.

Wayfinder is growing. Sadly you left. We miss you

I played EverQuest for 3.5 years, and left due to the mechanics of the game. When I left, ofc I had heard of Warcraft, so I gave that a try when they had 14 day trials. Within 2 days I had a max level character due to people being so apt in power leveling. It was ridiculous. So I uninstalled that and did a trial of Final Fantasy XI. In the 7 days on that, I never once saw another player below level 60. And here I am, level 3 at the end of the first week with no one to talk to and no one to play with. It was extremely discouraging. I uninstalled that and somehow found DDO during a google search of mmo's. Luckily, I went straight for Thelanis server - The name sounded the most fantasyish out of all the servers - and got to play with a heck of a lot of people on what seemed an excellent international server. I think for Turbine to make an almost completely dead server the starter-recommended was a poor choice. I do see people logging in, having a little fun the first few days by themselves, then moving on to the next game as I did due to there not being a whole lot of people around. Since moving to Argo, I've had more fun than ever in game. It completely justifies my actually paying for the game. I've been VIP since starting, since I believe in supporting the company who provides my favorite hobby (or alternate life? Lol!).

I have nothing against soloists either, nor anyone on Wayfinder - My wife and I met our best in-game friends on Wayfinder. If you wanna stay there and play, that's cool. If you wanna move and play, that's cool. If you wanna quit and find another game, feel free. I play my game my way, you play your game your way. All I was doing was throwing out an open invitation to anyone who might want to choose for themselves that a relocation was the right thing for them. You can feel sorry for me all you want. But I'm actually happy and having fun on a daily basis, without all the standing around wondering what to do at random awkward times anymore. (I'm not saying that's how it is for everyone on Wayfinder. That's just how it was for me.) Anywho, off to work to make money to support my dragon slaying addiction. I hope all of you have a wonderful and fun filled day! ^_^

Llantis
Claddagh
Argo Server

[Shalexilf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK34uNGvMbs
The vid says it all.
[*]Remove the DE from the server name (sorry to the German community, no offence)

Cheers

so I am confused is this a German server or a everybody server. was told for everybody but even looking at website under wayfinder its in a different language.