Should we stay or should wei go

[sdrocky]

Thanks all for the comments on this post, it has certainly made it clear that we are keen to keep this server alive.

Well some anyway.

I personally don't want a server merge. I love the (mostly) lag free experience. That's what will get others here, not force.

Fin*

[samthedagger]

We have taken a couple of steps today that may have an impact on Wayfinder's population. We have removed the [DE] text from the launcher, since Wayfinder is no longer a German-language-specific server. We have also made Wayfinder the default "recommended world" for new players.

Cordovan this is a TERRIBLE idea. New people are going to log in, assume no one is playing the game, and just leave, never to return.

Admit that Wayfinder is a failed project and move on. Begin setting into motion the machinery to close the server and offer free server transfers to players already on the server.

[samthedagger]

rotate it to give each server a full month as the recommended and then measure retention of the new players, their timezones and their spend?

Or maybe just, go balls-in and display the number of players currently logged into each server and let people make up their own mind?

great idea!

[Tscheuss]

Cordovan this is a TERRIBLE idea. New people are going to log in, assume no one is playing the game, and just leave, never to return.

Admit that Wayfinder is a failed project and move on. Begin setting into motion the machinery to close the server and offer free server transfers to players already on the server.

It saddens me that you would give up your server so easily. Can't we find ways to increase its population, instead?

[sdrocky]

It saddens me that you would give up your server so easily. Can't we find ways to increase its population, instead?

Were not going anywhere. Neither are most of the other higher level guilds I've spoken with. We to would like to see the population slowly stabilize and increase.

Fin*

Guild Leader

Hunters of Wayfinder.

[Tscheuss]

Maybe we can convince language teachers to set up language specific guilds on Wayfinder so they can get their students logged in for practical, yet fun, homework. In-game communication for the students will be restricted to the language of the class, and as they improve, they can expand their experience via gaming with others in said language.

[sdrocky]

Maybe we can convince language teachers to set up language specific guilds on Wayfinder so they can get their students logged in for practical, yet fun, homework. In-game communication for the students will be restricted to the language of the class, and as they improve, they can expand their experience via gaming with others in said language.

Wayfinder is no longer branded as a language specific server. The DE has been removed. It is now an open language server as are the other 7.

[Tscheuss]

Wayfinder is no longer branded as a language specific server. The DE has been removed. It is now an open language server as are the other 7.

Then it should be perfect.

[MarcusCleardawn]

In the real world, governments encouraged people to move to less populated areas by giving them direct incentives. People who settled the West got acres of free land. People who move to Alaska get a check every year from oil revenue-sharing.

Turbine could easily do the same to encourage both new and veteran characters to roll up a toon on the low-population servers. Say, a one-time-per-account 500 TP reward for reaching L12 on a "targeted" server, and another 500 for reaching L20. Yes, some people may just roll up a toon and zerg it for the rewards and then abandon it, but it'll temporarily drive up the population, which may help it reach "critical mass" with the influx of new players. And some people may end up sticking around permanently, if they get involved with a guild or something. California was founded on such a "population rush" economy, and it managed to do OK after that

A better incentive would be one that encourages the people to stay. I would propose instead:

1. First character on the server Tome of Greater Learning. This would also help get the new population up into the "good gear" realm, which will help fill the AH.

2. First character to 11? or w/e it is gets a bound to character +3 stat tome

3. First character to 20, bound to character tome of Epic Learning.

4. First character to 25, bound +2 twist of Fate

5. First character to 28, bound to character +4 Stat tome

6. First heroic TR 5 Greater Tokens of the Twelve

7. First Epic TR, 3 Commendations of Heroism.

Of course, I have no idea how hard it would be to create these incentives on 1 server to the exclusion of the others.

[Tuffmann]

Turbine is known to produce one bad idea after anouther.

Its like as if they are 10 year old children in the board room when making choices

and are just unable to see the likely end result of those choices

but focus on what they hope will happen no matter how remote that may be

Funny how a few seconds of thinking about this choice 90% of your players can already predict what going to happen.

New player joins, new player see no other players, new player leaves.

And this why I no longer invest $ into this game.

Bad choices = bad results...


Someday when Turbine get it act together ill start spending $ again

But I have a feeling I wont ever spend any more $ on this game again.

[Nestroy]

A better incentive would be one that encourages the people to stay. I would propose instead:

1. First character on the server Tome of Greater Learning. This would also help get the new population up into the "good gear" realm, which will help fill the AH.

2. First character to 11? or w/e it is gets a bound to character +3 stat tome

3. First character to 20, bound to character tome of Epic Learning.

4. First character to 25, bound +2 twist of Fate

5. First character to 28, bound to character +4 Stat tome

6. First heroic TR 5 Greater Tokens of the Twelve

7. First Epic TR, 3 Commendations of Heroism.

Of course, I have no idea how hard it would be to create these incentives on 1 server to the exclusion of the others.

Basically giving out incentives is a good idea. And while I like your choice of incentives very much, I believe Turbine will not give away so many benefits for free. But we will see. More likely there will be only fringe benefits like 100 TP on reaching 400 favor or something like that, if any.

[McFunzel]

at least, for the LOVE OF GOD or whatever you pray to: ENABLE/allow transfers **AWAY** from wayfinder.

i hate all my stuff beeing trapped on a dead server since that free transfer bait period.

[Finhurst]

Just read this on Google+

Wayfinder XP Bonus! The Wayfinder server now offers +10% Heroic and Epic XP, now through the end of the year!

https://plus.google.com/+dungeonsanddragonsonline/posts

[Tscheuss]

Just read this on Google+

Wayfinder XP Bonus! The Wayfinder server now offers +10% Heroic and Epic XP, now through the end of the year!

https://plus.google.com/+dungeonsanddragonsonline/posts

Very nice

[sdrocky]

at least, for the LOVE OF GOD or whatever you pray to: ENABLE/allow transfers **AWAY** from wayfinder.

i hate all my stuff beeing trapped on a dead server since that free transfer bait period.

Now come on my friend. Come back. i miss you if no one else does.

Fin*

hunters of wayfinder

[ppsm09]

When Wayfinder first opened, my wife and I both transferred our toons from Thelanis over to the new server, three at first, then all when they gave us unlimited free transfers. Everything went great! Our guild was up and running, we made great friends and expanded our online family. But after only a couple months, the server ran into it's first huge problem. DE VS English. It was almost like guild wars, guilds arguing and bickering constantly. The regionism sucked so bad. This caused the population to start dwindling, and we, along with so many, began transferring our toons out one by one. Ofc, this was about the time the World Character Transfers broke. My wife and I were able to transfer about 6 toons each out, leaving another 6 each behind, when we moved to Argonnessen.

It's been over a year since we moved, and things are going fantastic! Our guild is up and running, about to zing lvl 60, and our family has grown exponentially. We're always able to find something to do, whether it's with guildies, friends, or random people we've never met - potential new friends and family, lol!

Anywho, I understand wanting your server to grow. I'm still a bit heartbroken over having to leave Wayfinder, but when it comes down to it, my wife and I are VIP. We're paying for this game for the purpose of having fun, and running around with no one in site, watching the Who window with maybe 20 to 30 names on, wishing for the good ole days, that's not fun, and not what I pay for. So we moved on, and it's amazing.

I'd like to offer anyone from Wayfinder who may or may not know us a chance to come over and start fresh. Our guild, Claddagh, on the Argo server, will welcome anyone from our former home if you'd like to come over and roll up some toons. Someday, when character transfers are back up and running, you're more than welcome to bring those toons over as well. And if you come try it with a new toon, and you decide it's not for you, no hard feelings. We currently have members in the US, Canada, Spain, and a few other places, and we'd love to add more diversity to that. Heads up though, we are a very adult guild with a very adultish sense of humor, so if that's not your kind of atmosphere, this might not be the place for you.

At any rate, feel free to contact my wife or myself via ddo mail to Llantis, Llantica, or Llantaris (Myself) or Sabiraah, Faiithe, or Kaiie (my wife). Welp, I hope everything works out for you guys. I really miss Wayfinder, but I have to admit, logging in to see 20+ lfms during the slow time of day is awesome. I'm never bored on this server, and that's awesome. Really hoping to see some of our old friends come on over! Everyone, be safe, have fun, and we'll see ya in game! ^_^

Llantis Al'Durran the Thief
Leader, Claddagh
Argo

[Lanhelin]

I really miss Wayfinder, but I have to admit, logging in to see 20+ lfms during the slow time of day is awesome.

Being upset about few players looking for a group and solving this issue by going away (which results in even less players looking for a group) is an interesting solution, which logics I will never understand.

Though I noticed a significant increase of population in the last few days on Korthos, in the Harbor and the Marketplace compaired to the days before. Also I'm still new to this game and honestly I like to explore the world, quests and mechanics on my own first. With the help of hirelings I can learn about all these things without bothering anyone due to my newbie state of not knowing anything. In fact the issue of few people looking for a group is no issue for me and this been said as a new player. It'll take much more time for me to set up a looking for group question (and I'll never accept a ninja invite) and I didn't use the tool either, because there had not been any necessity so far that required it. In the meantime I only accept invites when I was asked before whether I want to join or not. As it happened recently when I joined a Raid for Tempest's Spine which was fun, though I died a lot and do not really remember what was exactly going on there^^

I'll definitely stay on Wayfinder.

[sdrocky]

Being upset about few players looking for a group and solving this issue by going away (which results in even less players looking for a group) is an interesting solution, which logics I will never understand.

Though I noticed a significant increase of population in the last few days on Korthos, in the Harbor and the Marketplace compaired to the days before. Also I'm still new to this game and honestly I like to explore the world, quests and mechanics on my own first. With the help of hirelings I can learn about all these things without bothering anyone due to my newbie state of not knowing anything. In fact the issue of few people looking for a group is no issue for me and this been said as a new player. It'll take much more time for me to set up a looking for group question (and I'll never accept a ninja invite) and I didn't use the tool either, because there had not been any necessity so far that required it. In the meantime I only accept invites when I was asked before whether I want to join or not. As it happened recently when I joined a Raid for Tempest's Spine which was fun, though I died a lot and do not really remember what was exactly going on there^^

I'll definitely stay on Wayfinder.

Welcome to a soloists paradise. LOL....

Look me up. All my toons start with Fin. I'm more than happy to answer any questions you may have.

Fin*

Hunters of Wayfinder

[Sabirah]

When Wayfinder first opened, my wife and I both transferred our toons from Thelanis over to the new server, three at first, then all when they gave us unlimited free transfers. Everything went great! Our guild was up and running, we made great friends and expanded our online family. But after only a couple months, the server ran into it's first huge problem. DE VS English. It was almost like guild wars, guilds arguing and bickering constantly. The regionism sucked so bad. This caused the population to start dwindling, and we, along with so many, began transferring our toons out one by one. Ofc, this was about the time the World Character Transfers broke. My wife and I were able to transfer about 6 toons each out, leaving another 6 each behind, when we moved to Argonnessen.

It's been over a year since we moved, and things are going fantastic! Our guild is up and running, about to zing lvl 60, and our family has grown exponentially. We're always able to find something to do, whether it's with guildies, friends, or random people we've never met - potential new friends and family, lol!

Anywho, I understand wanting your server to grow. I'm still a bit heartbroken over having to leave Wayfinder, but when it comes down to it, my wife and I are VIP. We're paying for this game for the purpose of having fun, and running around with no one in site, watching the Who window with maybe 20 to 30 names on, wishing for the good ole days, that's not fun, and not what I pay for. So we moved on, and it's amazing.

I'd like to offer anyone from Wayfinder who may or may not know us a chance to come over and start fresh. Our guild, Claddagh, on the Argo server, will welcome anyone from our former home if you'd like to come over and roll up some toons. Someday, when character transfers are back up and running, you're more than welcome to bring those toons over as well. And if you come try it with a new toon, and you decide it's not for you, no hard feelings. We currently have members in the US, Canada, Spain, and a few other places, and we'd love to add more diversity to that. Heads up though, we are a very adult guild with a very adultish sense of humor, so if that's not your kind of atmosphere, this might not be the place for you.

At any rate, feel free to contact my wife or myself via ddo mail to Llantis, Llantica, or Llantaris (Myself) or Sabiraah, Faiithe, or Kaiie (my wife). Welp, I hope everything works out for you guys. I really miss Wayfinder, but I have to admit, logging in to see 20+ lfms during the slow time of day is awesome. I'm never bored on this server, and that's awesome. Really hoping to see some of our old friends come on over! Everyone, be safe, have fun, and we'll see ya in game! ^_^

Llantis Al'Durran the Thief
Leader, Claddagh
Argo

My dear husband forgot to include my other major toon names, some of which I am on more often than Faiithe or Kaiie. My main right now is actually Jessimica, my 3rd life sorc, and my Successor toon is Lacunah. I fully support my husband's offer to help any player from Wayfinder to start fresh on Argonessen, one of the smaller servers but still a WHOLE lot bigger than Wayfinder. I made my permanent home here after Wayfinder died in population and I don't regret it one bit. There is ALWAYS something to do. After all, this is an MMORPG, not an RPG. If I wanted to solo, I would go play Fable or Dragon Age or Skyrim. I pay to play this game so I can have fun with others, and I found I can do that much easier on Argonessen than I could ever do on Wayfinder. If I am not online on Kaiie, or Sabiraah, or Faiithe, or Jessimica, please feel absolutely free to send me an in-game mail and I will get back to you.

My husband's and my guild is open for new friends and family, and we want you to be yourself with us. No guild drama, no he-said she-said, just a friendly environment in which you can grow as new players or start over with the potential to eventually transfer your main toons.

We want to help disgruntled players like ourselves. We are not recruiting with ulterior motives to zerg to 100; guild renown has nothing to do with it. We just want people to have fun like we are now, off of Wayfinder.

Laters

Lacunah Coil
Successor to Argonessen guild, Claddagh

[Lanhelin]

Welcome to a soloists paradise. LOL....

Look me up. All my toons start with Fin. I'm more than happy to answer any questions you may have.

Thank you for your offer :-)

It has always been this way regarding my playstyle in MMOs. Except for GW2 and Rift where Open World partying is quite easy and done fastly. It takes a good amount of time for me to get habituated to a new MMO World and Character Class(es), so the first weeks I prefer to solo what's soloable - or as its called moloing (with hirelings) here. The hireling concept isn't new to me, I know it from SWTOR and NWO too. I heard that in the beginning after release DDO was said to be a pure party game, but this truly changed after the hirelings and the difficulty scaling were introduced. So yes, now it is a soloists/moloists paradise and offers both a lot of of soloable content and team/party content too, like all the other MMOs out there.

@Sabirah
I do not have enough time to play different games. When I decide to play a MMO, I log in a few minutes/hours a day (depending) and play. I'm not always in the mood for party gameplay, so why should I quit the MMO world when I'm in the mood for soloing? This won't cut me off from the world though, since there's plenty other MM things like chat channels (you won't advise to leave and use icq instead?), the auction house or just possibilities to learn more about locations, e.g. recently I got my firstlife wizard to level 9 and all I did the following hour was teleporting around To wit: not party-minded but it was fun (you won't advise to leave and play Portal instead?).