TWF 16bard/2barb/2fighter critic please

[Quartzz]

this is my 1st character so it's a 28 point build

Things I want out of this Build:

1) being able to buff myself and if spell points allows, also my party

2) ability to go toe to toe with all monsters in the game and come out on top with the right weapon and hirling

3) a fun character that isn't just a buffer that can't solo, but also isn't just a melee character

Questions and concerns:

1)Not sure weather to dual wield dwarven axes or, go dwarven axe and hand axe

2)my feat at level 9 looks to be extend spell but not sure weather to go oversized weapon mastery or perhaps magical training or what

3)I don't get Bard Inspired attack III but im not sure what I would give up for those 6 enhancement points

4) i throw all my skill points as a fighter/barb into jump as im not sure what else i should attempt to get heh

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Level 20 Neutral Good Dwarf Male
(2 Fighter \ 2 Barbarian \ 16 Bard) 
Hit Points: 322
Spell Points: 500 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 13
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    20
Dexterity            15                    17
Constitution         16                    19
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma             12                    16

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                    30
Bluff                 1                     3
Concentration         3                    18
Diplomacy             1                     3
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                1                     3
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  2                     3
Intimidate            1                     7
Jump                  6                    14
Listen                0                     0
Move Silently         2                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                  26
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                     1
Spot                  0                     0
Swim                  2                     5
Tumble                n/a                   4
Use Magic Device      3                    26

Level 1 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Dwarven Armored Agility I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I


Level 2 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I


Level 4 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I


Level 5 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 7 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 8 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II


Level 11 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II


Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II


Level 13 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III


Level 14 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II


Level 17 (Bard)
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II


Level 19 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I

[Aolas]

Hi there and welcome

Couple of comments. I would take Cleave instead of Two Weapon Defense. Without a shield your AC is never going to be that high to make the +2 bonus significant whereas Cleave will help you out a lot. Also consider when you stop Raging you are fatigued which might be a problem. Completely understand where you are going with the Barbarian levels but it might be better to take Fighter(4) and Weapon Specialization instead.

Just noticed you didn't include Extra Song enhancements. If you drop Lingering Song IV and take Extra Song I & II the duration of three songs at +60%(+180%) is more than twice the duration of one song at +80%. You save 1 AP too.

Hope you don't mind but I did a build based on the same theme that is more focused on the damage end using a Fighter(6) Bard(14) distribution. Fighter(6) for Kensai prestige class plus Haste II and Attack II action boosts. Kensai Favoured Weapon (Waraxe) and Weapon Specialization together worked out better than Rage.

No tomes required but you will still need a +3 Charisma item to cast 3rd, 4th & 5th level spells. Cleave and Great Cleave at level 5 should make it fun to play. Without high Charisma it won't be fascinating anything so just Perform 15 (ranks) which is the requirement to use Song of Freedom. Chaotic Neutral for chaotic weapons and to avoid infernal damage. See what you think.

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Dwarf Axesinger
Level 20 Chaotic Neutral Dwarf Male
(6 Fighter \ 14 Bard) 
Hit Points: 306
Spell Points: 398 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 14
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    20
Dexterity            16                    17
Constitution         16                    16
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             12                    12

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    20
Bluff                 1                     2
Concentration         7                    27
Diplomacy             1                     2
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                1                     1
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  3                     3
Intimidate            1                     6
Jump                  6                    21
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         3                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               5                    16
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                     1
Spot                 -1                    -1
Swim                  2                     5
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      5                    24

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Spell (1): Focusing Chant
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: DEX
Spell (1): Feather Fall
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I


Level 5 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Spell (2): Rage
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 7 (Fighter)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II
Enhancement: Kensei Dwarven Waraxe Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 11 (Bard)
Spell (1): Remove Fear
Spell (2): Blur
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I


Level 13 (Bard)
Spell (2): Invisibility
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Displacement
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II


Level 14 (Bard)
Spell (3): Haste
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Spell (3): Good Hope
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III


Level 17 (Bard)
Spell (4): Break Enchantment


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 19 (Bard)
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
Spell (5): Greater Heroism
Spell (5): Shadow Walk
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III

[unbongwah]

See my Kublai Khan thread. Short version: you've got too much WIS & CHA, not enough STR; drop TWD; think about rejiggering your other feats so you can squeeze in CL/GC/OC chain.

Note: while I enjoy the barb splash for the +10% run speed, 3 uses of Rage, and +1 Power Atk, I find I really miss having Evasion, particularly at higher levels; and now that Marilith Chain is light armor instead of med, I would consider swapping barb for rogue (a la Axesinger).