Dwarf rogue2/paly twf

[Lillou]

AbbyDoll is a DWARF and will always be a DWARF
She use to be a rogue2/ranger18 on her fist life
Then she was a rogue2/ranger6/fighter12 for 2 lifes, this was a while ago when those mixed build had a hard time to get on raids... so she became a monk2/fvs18
Now I'm gonna take her on a fun completionist trip, the goal is been one day completionist, but it's not the primary goal. I want to have fun leveling and pleasure to play.

So I want to make her a Paly for this life, it's far from been the best build as she will remain a DWARF using Dwarven axes, this is not optional.

I want to splash some rogue skill for a change and been able to do traps and maybe open locks too
She won't be staying much at lvl 20 as she is on a TR trip
Is there any big mistake in this build ? (she will be using carniflex or great axes until she can use GS dwarven axes)

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Dool-Dwarf Rogue2-Paly
Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Female
(18 Paladin \ 2 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 364
Spell Points: 250 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 20
Will: 14


                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             16                 23                   23
Dexterity            14                 17                   17
Constitution         14                 17                   19
Intelligence         14                 17                   17
Wisdom                8                 11                   11
Charisma             14                 18                   18


Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               6                 14                   18
Bluff                 2                  4                    4
Concentration         4                 25.5                 25.5
Diplomacy             2                  4                    4
Disable Device        6                 16.5                 16.5
Haggle                2                  4                    4
Heal                  1                  2                    2
Hide                  2                  3                    3
Intimidate            2                  4                    4
Jump                  7                 10.5                 10.5
Listen               -1                  0                    0
Move Silently         5                  6                    6
Open Lock             6                 12                   12
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                  3                    3
Search                6                 16                   18
Spot                  3                  4                    4
Swim                  3                  6                    6
Tumble                3                  4                    4
Use Magic Device      6                 17                   17

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I




Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics I
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion I




Level 3 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I




Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I




Level 5 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (1): Bless
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Spell (1): Lesser Restoration
Spell (1): Lionheart
Spell (1): Protection From Evil
Spell (1): Resistance
Spell (1): Seek Eternal Rest
Spell (1): Virtue
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Turning I




Level 6 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
Enhancement: Paladin Improved Turning I




Level 7 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Hunter of the Dead I




Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+7)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II




Level 9 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion III




Level 10 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (2): Angelskin
Spell (2): Bull's Strength
Spell (2): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (2): Eagle's Spendor
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Remove Paralysis
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II




Level 11 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II




Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion IV
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Turning II




Level 13 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (3): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (3): Dispel Magic
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Spell (3): Prayer
Spell (3): Remove Blindness
Spell (3): Remove Curse
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II
Enhancement: Paladin Improved Turning II




Level 14 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Hunter of the Dead II




Level 15 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III




Level 16 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (4): Break Enchantment
Spell (4): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (4): Death Ward
Spell (4): Holy Sword
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
Spell (4): Restoration
Spell (4): Stalwart Pact
Spell (4): Zeal
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III




Level 17 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might III




Level 18 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting




Level 19 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Improved Turning III




Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Paladin Hunter of the Dead III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Turning III

[unbongwah]

If this is a "race to 20 and TR" build, you don't need so many pally lvls to qualify for PL. So consider adding more rog lvls for extra skill pts; or a ftr or monk splash for more feats. You lose out on third-tier PrE that way, but you won't be 20+ long enough for it to matter.

[Lillou]

If this is a "race to 20 and TR" build, you don't need so many pally lvls to qualify for PL. So consider adding more rog lvls for extra skill pts; or a ftr or monk splash for more feats. You lose out on third-tier PrE that way, but you won't be 20+ long enough for it to matter.

Thanks but no it's not a race, I want to enjoy every life and have fun playing, it's my main goal.
If I just wanted to be 20 to TR again as fast as possible, I would simply eat stones after stones....

[unbongwah]

What I meant was: if you plan to TR as soon as you hit 20, there's no point in going for pal 18 / HotD III; you won't be lvl 20 long enough for it to matter. In which case, I think pal 15 is a good stopping point; that still gets you HotD II, Divine Might III, and two lvl 4 spell slots (e.g., Zeal & CSW). You can then take extra rogue lvls and/or a ftr splash.

I was thinking something like this:

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Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Female
(2 Fighter \ 15 Paladin \ 3 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 350
Spell Points: 205 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 24
Reflex: 18
Will: 13

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    25
Dexterity            14                    17
Constitution         15                    18
Intelligence         13                    16
Wisdom                8                    11
Charisma             14                    18

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    11
Bluff                 2                     4
Concentration         4                    30
Diplomacy             2                     4
Disable Device        5                    20
Haggle                2                     4
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                  2                     3
Intimidate            2                     4
Jump                  7                    11
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently         2                     3
Open Lock             6                     7
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     3
Search                5                    22
Spot                  3                     4
Swim                  3                     7
Tumble                6                     7
Use Magic Device      6                    27

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave


Level 3 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Search (+1.5)


Level 5 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave(swap for Two Weapon Fighting before lvl 12)


Level 7 (Paladin)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Paladin)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 11 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+11)


Level 14 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 17 (Paladin)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 19 (Paladin)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite II
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil IV
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys I
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion I
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion II
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion III
Enhancement: Paladin Devotion IV
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might III
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I

The ftr splash lets you front-load the TWF feats sooner and meets the DoS feat pre-req (tower shield prof), as well as add +1 STR enh. Rog 3 adds +1D6 sneak atk and lets you round out your skill pts for however long you're @ lvl 20.

[Lillou]

thanks a lot for taking the time to post another build, you didn't waist your time
I'll try my build this life... and your build next life
And will let you know what I prefered

but I might take the second lvl of rogue earlier to get more skills point

[unbongwah]

I delayed rog 2 until after the +3 INT tome kicked in; but feel free to take it sooner if you don't care about that extra skill pt.