Icon TRs and Past lives suggestion

[LeoLionxxx]

So at the moment Bladeforged and other icon heroes aren't able to be true reincarnated into or out of. Now, it has been said by a dev that TRing will e a priority at some point, but I can see where it might be difficult: if people were able to TR into and out of, say, the Bladeforged paladin, then they would be able to farm paladin past lives in just a short amount of time. thus my suggestion is: make the iconic heroes have their own past life feats, no matter how the player builds them.

By this I mean that any character would be able to TR into an iconic hero past level 20 using the ordinary True heart of wood. They would retain all previous past life feats, have the appropriate number of points for their build at character creation, and their items go to the TR cache. The only difference is that they would start with the Icon hero cut scenes and have the XP for LV 15 automatically granted.

Past this, when the Icon wants to TR out of this iconic life, they would do so normally, but rather than the new incarnation being granted a past life based on this class, they would be granted a past life feat based on what icon they were, regardless whether or not they stuck with the suggested class route for their icon.

For example, a Bladeforged past life could grant something like "heart of the Forge" which would Give the subject 20%healing amplification to Repair spells (meaning that even a fleshy could benefit) and also stacks like the Paladin past life feat.
And then a selectable past life feat could be the repair spell as an SLA.

Something like this would certainly motivate people to buy and play as icons, and not break the game by giving players easy ways to farm Paladin and cleric etc. past lives; especially if they were a requirement for the completionist feat (only throwing that out there to be fair).

[UurlockYgmeov]

in original letter outlining this year - was stated was going to be a new completionist track (which would also allow another +2 completionist feat) for epic. Am confident that that track was about Iconics (15-28). We will see.

[Noctus]

oooooor....

If you TR into an iconic you start just like any other TR does with level 1. Only difference being that you have the new race. This solution is so simply and imho obvious that i dont understand why, after a given exclusive and new-and-shiny time has passed, that TRing for the new iconic races shouldnt be enabled.

[Silverleafeon]

We will see.

+1

[Gkar]

oooooor....

If you TR into an iconic you start just like any other TR does with level 1. Only difference being that you have the new race. This solution is so simply and imho obvious that i dont understand why, after a given exclusive and new-and-shiny time has passed, that TRing for the new iconic races shouldnt be enabled.

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[Silverleafeon]

make the iconic heroes have their own past life feats, no matter how the player builds them.

Sounds good.

By this I mean that any character would be able to EpicTR into an iconic hero past level 30ish using the ordinary Epic True heart of wood. They would retain all previous past life feats, have the appropriate number of points for their build at character creation, and their items go to the TR cache. The only difference is that they would start with the Icon hero cut scenes and have the XP for LV 15 automatically granted.

Added bolded text.

Past this, when the Icon wants to Epic TR out of this iconic life, they would do so normally by reaching level 30ish, but rather than the new incarnation being granted a past life based on this class, they would be granted a past life feat based on what icon they were, regardless whether or not they stuck with the suggested class route for their icon.

For example, a Bladeforged past life could grant something like "heart of the Forge" which would Give the subject 20%healing amplification to Repair spells (meaning that even a fleshy could benefit) and also stacks like the Paladin past life feat.
And then a selectable past life feat could be the repair spell as an SLA.

Something like this would certainly motivate people to buy and play as icons, and not break the game by giving players easy ways to farm Paladin and cleric etc. past lives; especially if they were a requirement for the completionist feat (only throwing that out there to be fair).

Added Bolded, otherwise agree.

[LeoLionxxx]

oooooor....

If you TR into an iconic you start just like any other TR does with level 1. Only difference being that you have the new race. This solution is so simply and imho obvious that i dont understand why, after a given exclusive and new-and-shiny time has passed, that TRing for the new iconic races shouldnt be enabled.

However, this doesn't give the 'Icon experience' that probably the devs are going for. If it were like this, it would essentially be JUST like an exclusive veteran status III.

[Silverleafeon]

http://www.ddo.com/en/articles/u18-i...eveloper-diary

For those wanting to know where link is.


We will probably see more epic destiny levels someday,
possibly as many as 20. So, a way to ETR back to near
Epic will be nice to reset the xp on quests.

Notice the first 5 levels have min lvl 20 on them.
If the ED min lvl continues at:
6 ~ 10 min lvl 25
11 ~ 15 min lvl 30
16 ~ 20 min lvl 35
21 ~ 25 min lvl 40

Level cap increase to 30 summer 2014
Level cap increase to 33 summer 2015
Level cap increase to 35 summer 2016
Level cap increase to 38 summer 2017
Level cap increase to 40 summer 2018

Introduction of new system/ideas for above level 30, etc...

[Silverleafeon]

...

+1

[Silverleafeon]

http://ddowiki.com/page/Level_cap

Level cap refers to the maximum Level a character can reach within a game. In DDO, that limit is currently Level 25.

At launch (February 2006) level cap was 10.

With Module 3: Demon Sands (October 2006) it was increased to 12.

With Module 4: Reaver's Bane (April 2007) it was increased to 14.

With Module 6: The Thirteenth Eclipse (January 2008) it was increased to 16.

With Eberron Unlimited (September 2009) it was increased to 20.

With Menace of the Underdark (June 2012) it was increased to epic level 25.

When Shadowfell Conspiracy (Summer 2013) comes it will be increased to 28.


Except the long gap trying to bridge into Epic levels, the level cap has gone up
rather consistently.

[BinyaminTsadik]

So at the moment Bladeforged and other icon heroes aren't able to be true reincarnated into or out of. Now, it has been said by a dev that TRing will e a priority at some point, but I can see where it might be difficult: if people were able to TR into and out of, say, the Bladeforged paladin, then they would be able to farm paladin past lives in just a short amount of time. thus my suggestion is: make the iconic heroes have their own past life feats, no matter how the player builds them.

By this I mean that any character would be able to TR into an iconic hero past level 20 using the ordinary True heart of wood. They would retain all previous past life feats, have the appropriate number of points for their build at character creation, and their items go to the TR cache. The only difference is that they would start with the Icon hero cut scenes and have the XP for LV 15 automatically granted.

Past this, when the Icon wants to TR out of this iconic life, they would do so normally, but rather than the new incarnation being granted a past life based on this class, they would be granted a past life feat based on what icon they were, regardless whether or not they stuck with the suggested class route for their icon.

For example, a Bladeforged past life could grant something like "heart of the Forge" which would Give the subject 20%healing amplification to Repair spells (meaning that even a fleshy could benefit) and also stacks like the Paladin past life feat.
And then a selectable past life feat could be the repair spell as an SLA.

Something like this would certainly motivate people to buy and play as icons, and not break the game by giving players easy ways to farm Paladin and cleric etc. past lives; especially if they were a requirement for the completionist feat (only throwing that out there to be fair).

Make them require a Pure Druidic heart of wood with ML 28 - problem solved

No more pastlives please unless you introduce a completely new class such as psionicist