Update 18 is now available on Lamannia!

[~NiborRis]

I have to agree that the lack of release notes makes the preview of very limited value. It's completely impractical for us to submit bugs about every little thing that we have no idea if it's even intended.

For example, Vitality +20 now appears instead of Toughness. Working as designed? Bug, held over from the Enhancement respec?
No unique loot has been reported yet from the new quests. At this point should we flag that as a bug? Is it not implemented? Do they not have any unique treasure?
The quests don't have an epic version. Intended? Bug? Being delayed until the xpack so they can be lvl 26+ quests on epic?
Iconic character cannot be reincarnated in any way. Bug? Limitation due to the current preview? Intended design?
There appears to be no new Monster Manual. Intended? While I'd love to submit a bug report that there aren't enough MM volumes, I don't think that's particularly useful for anyone involved.

If you want better bug reports from us, give us what we need to make informed decisions.

[Hambo]

Another issue seems to be that there's no shortcut to Eveningstar, such as the one mentioned near the Founder's Fountain. With people not able to copy over characters with keys and starting from scratch, most players will need to run the Web of Choas chain to get to the new content.

Funny... I created a brand new Alt and built it to level 20. I went to House C to fill out the spells I didn't have enough spells to fill the slots. When I tried to exit back to the Market I was dumped directly to Eveningstar, and couldn't get beck to the Market until I typed /death.Go figure.

[Hambo]

I would really like to know where you get all the gear. In the dojo is only old stuff. Ok, some drops are now the updated ones with augment slots, but no U14 loot or later. The AH was either fully bought out not even 24 hours after the restart or not filled yet. Did you even bother to check? The doors to Dojo and Evening Star are still not permanent. I don't think the devs like to idle to keep them up, but it can't be so hard to make them stay.For testing I need comparison to the live servers. I would need either at least a working character copy or the same help as last month including CITW drops, commendations, shards. I may sound like a spoiled child, but without a similar amount of astral shards I won't bother testing anymore. Without a working store I can get the points, but not spend them.In my (not so) humble opinion you first need to do some work on the testing environment. Why not update the dojo with the new stuff? Or add a second room? Or get a script to fill up the AH every 3 days (including commendations and other ingredients of course? Without gear my characters get wiped in the first minutes of an EE quest. Some builds would be possible, but do you really want us to make a farming char first to farm the gear for a build I want to test out? No way! I am doing it in my free time, I expect something that at least tries do give an impression of working as intended.I cant even try out the new quests with an Iconic, because I dont have a key, the door is gone again and without proper gear the quests will be a pain. Survivable if you manage to get in the dojo to get to 25, otherwise I doubt you will survive the Spinner (at least without a proper group).

^This.No Runearms and very few repeating xbows in the Dojo.

[lostgunman]

It feels like there has been little to no support on this update...are they ignoring it on purpose or are they just too busy with other "stuff" to care about our issues at all?

[~quintino]

what's up with the unexpected downtime? :O

[Momsboys]

what's up with the unexpected downtime? :O

I wish i knew .-. I just logged on and it suddenly said '30 seconds" and i was sitting there like WHAT?!?!

[~quintino]

I wish i knew .-. I just logged on and it suddenly said '30 seconds" and i was sitting there like WHAT?!?!

same here

[Momsboys]

same here

I just logged back on, looks like servers up

[~quintino]

I just logged back on, looks like servers up

lol that was the most random downtime ever xD

[Momsboys]

lol that was the most random downtime ever xD

I think that was just a reset, but more of a warning would have been nice.

[~Titan95]

I think that was just a reset, but more of a warning would have been nice.

Ummm Ya what was the Downtime for and is the Server up again???

[~rcdrager]

Ummm Ya what was the Downtime for and is the Server up again???

it appears the downtime was to remove the entrance to the test dojo. only way in now is for there to be a character inside with a bracelet of friends.

[~quintino]

it appears the downtime was to remove the entrance to the test dojo. only way in now is for there to be a character inside with a bracelet of friends.

there's currently an LFM for that :P

[~rcdrager]

there's currently an LFM for that :P

and just who did you think put up that lfm

[~LordAsmodeus]

All the toons that I had successfully copied for last cycle claim to be on Lamonia per the Character copy tool -- per the Lamonia client, they are not... and can't "re-copy"Homunkurusu Complete 2013-01-24 14:13:48 2013-01-24 14:10:27 From before the server wipe Voltumna Failed 2013-04-14 06:22:01 I was able to copy that toonVoltumna Complete 2013-05-07 02:54:39 2013-05-07 02:50:00 I am still do not have my correct forum name and join date, don't know if that might be an issue with the char copy tool.Also could we have +5 tomes, Rune arms and some of the newer raid gear added to the Dojo, it would be so much less work in the long run for the Devs if they were permanent.

[Kilbar]

Squeak, I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize for any snark I've directed at you in the past. You seem to be doing your level best and I've just come to realize that. I'm sorry.

[THAC0]

Soooo..... any current release notes on this? All I see is the one from 4/11....

What is Update 18 even called? Nice to see a few named quests...but geez... this is really disapointing on how things have been handled for the past several weeks here on the forums (new and old).

I still can't believe they broke all the links to posted information on the forums. But I digress.

What is U18 named, contains...and all about?

T.

[THAC0]

I'm not even going to bother with Character Copy.

I see characters I deleted YEARS ago. I see characters that I believe I created 7 yrs ago (on different non existent servers now). I see multiple copies of the same character on the same server. I see characters on my main server that I play on that I know are deleted as new character have taken that spot.

Ugh. Really?

Come on Turbine... get it together.

[~MarkGrismer]

Soooo..... any current release notes on this? All I see is the one from 4/11....

What is Update 18 even called? Nice to see a few named quests...but geez... this is really disapointing on how things have been handled for the past several weeks here on the forums (new and old).

I still can't believe they broke all the links to posted information on the forums. But I digress.

What is U18 named, contains...and all about?

T.

Unless it has been changed and I missed it; Update 18 is "The Shadowfell Conspiracy". Last I heard it is also supposed to be an extra-cost "expansion".

[~Eris_Discordia]

Anyone else starting to think the reason we're not getting release notes is because something really scary is in them and it will break all of our characters and Turbine wants to avoid the drama?

Or do we all just think the general laziness and shoddiness of product that Turbine has been pushing is just getting grey and old, and it's time to let it out to pasture, and the devs are being shanghai'ed into projects that actually make money?

Again, no release notes means no reason to test, how are we supposed to know what is a nerf and what is intended.