Farwind: An Air savant Endgame EE DPS Build

[Michele]

Again, tell me an example of gearset with +20 Spellcraft item on it and let's see if I like it.
Libram is situational. And again, show me a gear set for Sorcerer that is reasonable.
Why would I replace my cloak with sage's mantle when I have +6 Enchant on my Weapon?
Why would I remove my belt, which is an awesome CONSTITUION +11 and Dodge item? Where do I get my Con+11 item them?
If I lose my Cloak and my belt, where do I get a +11 Con and +11 Dodge items?
Your ideas are kind of confused, you just say random suggestions without thinking to the whole plan.

epic inferno bracers (and equip guardian's ring and circle of malevolence for prr/mrr)

If you want more prr you can equip a light armor (shadow armor, blue dragon, whatever) and take "light armor proficiency" enhancement in the eldritch knight tree (it's +9 prr for only 2 AP).
I still don't understand what your build is focused in... it doesn't have max spell power: what sorcerer don't focus on spell power?. it doesn't have max prr: so why are you equipping dumathoin's bracers?. It's focused on DC, ok.
you are wasting the gloves slot for only +35 hp: instead of blindness immunity in the green steel item, get +10 hp (blindness immunity can be slotted in a yellow slot; necro 4 items have tons of slots). this way you can keep your belt with +11 dodge (sorry, I'm not a man because I crowd control enemies avoiding physical contact) and move your +6 exceptional int skills item on gloves.

However, I will not speak about equipment anymore: there are hundreds of equipment combinations.
I'm simply saying that your equipment doesn't maximize spellpower, but if you prefer hit points over spell power then your equipment is the best.

Was thinking about that already actually. Will need to sacrifice points from somewhere else most likely and I need to re-make a TF weapon which I don't want to.
I don't like bladeforgeds, they are too easy.

you could remove the points you spent in the eldritch knight tree otherwise I could think that you prefer +15 hit points over +10 universal spell power.
Ok, you spend points in eldritch knight tree in order to have wand and scroll mastery: it's reasonable (one more reason for which I would not run a fleshy sorcerer).

I'm a man.

if you are a man, then don't take cocoon and twist fey form instead (one more reason to not run a fleshy sorcerer).

Electric: 523
Fire: 433

My druid has about 500 spell power ice at level "20"... that's why I'm trying to suggesting you better solutions.
Unless you are saying that druids have higher spell power than sorcerers.

You are asking a Sorcerer to NOT focus on a secondary element, thus losing all my Fire Spell Power.

ahahaahahahah!
that's funny. "all your fire spell power"? 433?
I can't imagine what's your fire spell power if you really decide to sacrifice your secondary element

I hope you are kidding. If you are not, I suggest you to play a Sorcerer before giving them suggestions. You are asking a Sorcerer to NOT focus on a secondary element, thus losing all my Fire Spell Power AND my Fire dot to get 48 Spell power and +2 (TWO) Intelligence.

yes, just focus on 1 element and cast your secondary element like a wizard with the spells cooldown of a sorcerer. Harper tree not only gives more universal spell power to your primary and secondary elements, but also gives you +2 charisma and +1 DC to "all" spells thanks to "moment of clarity" (that is also a clicky that gives +10 DC with 5 minutes cooldown... a lot better than magister arcane spellsurge for those who like to use such abilities), more spell points, more hit points (those hit points that you are wasting by taking "toughness" eldritch knight enhancement tree).
Do not underestimate harper tree.

[Wizza]

epic inferno bracers (and equip guardian's ring and circle of malevolence for prr/mrr)

If you want more prr you can equip a light armor (shadow armor, blue dragon, whatever) and take "light armor proficiency" enhancement in the eldritch knight tree (it's +9 prr for only 2 AP).

I don't want to wear light armor. Nor medium. Flavor choice.

you are wasting the gloves slot for only +35 hp: instead of blindness immunity in the green steel item, get +10 hp (blindness immunity can be slotted in a yellow slot; necro 4 items have tons of slots). this way you can keep your belt with +11 dodge (sorry, I'm not a man because I crowd control enemies avoiding physical contact) and move your +6 exceptional int skills item on gloves.

Okay so I get SP GS Gloves, Epic belt, then what?

However, I will not speak about equipment anymore: there are hundreds of equipment combinations.
I'm simply saying that your equipment doesn't maximize spellpower, but if you prefer hit points over spell power then your equipment is the best.

I don't see how your suggestion is maxing Spell power over mine. Blue set? +20 Spellcraft item? That's it.

you could remove the points you spent in the eldritch knight tree otherwise I could think that you prefer +15 hit points over +10 universal spell power.
Ok, you spend points in eldritch knight tree in order to have wand and scroll mastery: it's reasonable (one more reason for which I would not run a fleshy sorcerer).

And that's good for your non-fleshy Sorcerer!

if you are a man, then don't take cocoon and twist fey form instead (one more reason to not run a fleshy sorcerer).

I'm a man, not a stupid.

yes, just focus on 1 element and cast your secondary element like a wizard with the spells cooldown of a sorcerer. Harper tree not only gives more universal spell power to your primary and secondary elements, but also gives you +2 charisma and +1 DC to "all" spells thanks to "moment of clarity" (that is also a clicky that gives +10 DC with 5 minutes cooldown... a lot better than magister arcane spellsurge for those who like to use such abilities), more spell points, more hit points (those hit points that you are wasting by taking "toughness" eldritch knight enhancement tree).
Do not underestimate harper tree.

Moment of clarity. Okay, don't take Wings, Elemental Weakness, Lightning bolt SLA, a secondary element so I can get T5 in the Harper tree, a clicky with a Five minutes cooldown..

I think you should make your own Sorcerer build at this point, let me know how it works out for you. Best of luck with it! And congratz on your Spellpower at level 20!

[Michele]

Couple comments, wizza can get it done better then me, gear choices are different for us so cant comment on that

Off topic:
Overvaan, thank you very much for the advices you gave about my druid.
I used a +3 heart of wood and got 3 sorcerer levels, you were right in many points.
With those 3 sorcerer levels now I have more spell power, more critical chance, 2 more caster levels on draconic abilities thanks to water savant core abilities, 3 more caster levels on draconic abilities thanks to abishai set (that I equip as final equipment).
Lol, I also found a way to get more DC after transforming my druid in an int based one.
My self healing is reduced by 30% because I use "regenerate" instead of "regenerate mass" and because I don't have druid capstone anymore, but I'm still able to survive.

We need you, Overvaan. Don't quit the game

[Michele]

I don't want to wear light armor. Nor medium. Flavor choice.



Okay so I get SP GS Gloves, Epic belt, then what?



I don't see how your suggestion is maxing Spell power over mine. Blue set? +20 Spellcraft item? That's it.



And that's good for your non-fleshy Sorcerer!



I'm a man, not a stupid.




Moment of clarity. Okay, don't take Wings, Elemental Weakness, Lightning bolt SLA, a secondary element so I can get T5 in the Harper tree, a clicky with a Five minutes cooldown..

I think you should make your own Sorcerer build at this point, let me know how it works out for you. Best of luck with it! And congratz on your Spellpower at level 20!

It's clear that you don't read carefully what I wrote: read again and you will realized that I didn't only suggested to equip blue dragon set and spellcraft +20 item to improve your spellpower: there are other suggestions I gave you.

If you keep saying "I don't want this", "I don't want that", then you will never improve.

I once said to Overvaan: "I don't want to splash my druid", but I was wrong because after splashing my druid with 3 sorcerer levels it became a lot stronger (especially with draconic incarnation abilities).

P.S.: I sacrificed "call lightning" sla and "word of balance" sla to get harper tree spell power. Those are far better than that crappy lightning bolt sla.
So yes, having max spell power make the difference for me about oneshotting a mob and using multiple spells to kill him: I honestly prefer to one-sot.

Good luck with your overpowered 433 spell power

I think you should make your own Sorcerer build at this point, let me know how it works out for you. Best of luck with it!

One day I will return sorcerer (after I played about 20 lives with sorcerers to get almost all heroic and iconic past lives): for now I'm working on my druid.

[Wizza]

It's clear that you don't read carefully what I wrote: read again and you will realized that I didn't only suggested to equip blue dragon set and spellcraft +20 item to improve your spellpower: there are other suggestions I gave you.

If you keep saying "I don't want this", "I don't want that", then you will never improve.

I once said to Overvaan: "I don't want to splash my druid", but I was wrong because after splashing my druid with 3 sorcerer levels it became a lot stronger (especially with draconic incarnation abilities).

P.S.: I sacrificed "call lightning" sla and "word of balance" sla to get harper tree spell power. Those are far better than that crappy lightning bolt sla.
So yes, having max spell power make the difference for me about oneshotting a mob and using multiple spells to kill him: I honestly prefer to one-sot.

Good luck with your overpowered 433 spell power

I also just read your build Nice way of skyrocketing numbers.

I'll show you how mine skyrockets as well:

523 Electric
+30 Action boost
+50 Draconic Fury
+25 Eardweller
+25 Electrocution
+20 Empyrean Magic
+24 Meridian Fragment

OMG I suddenly have 697 SPELL POWER SORCERES OP MUST NERF

Lightning bolt SLA crappy Go back to your druid, I appreaciate your good luck suggestion tho, it was a good one.

Oh wait, with Good luck I have 699 Spell power, will take Epic skill focus: spellcraft to go above 702.

[Eth]

Investing 36 points into harper to gain 44 spellpower only gives you a total spp gain of 17. Simply because spending points into a savant tree gives you 0.75 universal spp per AP.
So you gained 17 spp to our main element.

But you lose 50 spp, crit. chances, 25 proc spp for your secondary element, making your sorc a one trick pony, that can't do smack when you face something that's immune to your main element. And you also lose cores like Immolation, which give you more DPS then that extra 17 spp you get from harper.

I tried harper on my sorc. It's absolutely horrible compared to a second savant tree.

[Michele]

I also just read your build Nice way of skyrocketing numbers.

I'll show you how mine skyrockets as well:

523 Electric
+30 Action boost
+50 Draconic Fury
+25 Eardweller
+25 Electrocution
+20 Empyrean Magic
+24 Meridian Fragment

OMG I suddenly have 697 SPELL POWER SORCERES OP MUST NERF

Lightning bolt SLA crappy Go back to your druid, I appreaciate your good luck suggestion tho, it was a good one.

Oh wait, with Good luck I have 699 Spell power, will take Epic skill focus: spellcraft to go above 702.

you are without hope...

[Wizza]

Investing 36 points into harper to gain 44 spellpower only gives you a total spp gain of 17. Simply because spending points into a savant tree gives you 0.75 universal spp per AP.
So you gained 17 spp to our main element.

But you lose 50 spp, crit. chances, 25 proc spp for your secondary element, making your sorc a one trick pony, that can't do smack when you face something that's immune to your main element. And you also lose cores like Immolation, which give you more DPS then that extra 17 spp you get from harper.

I tried harper on my sorc. It's absolutely horrible compared to a second savant tree.

And losing all the Fire benefits (which also means losing Empyrean magic), losing Fire spells is horrible where Necro4, MoD, Deathwyrm, HH are the only "endgame" content we have.

[Michele]

Investing 36 points into harper to gain 44 spellpower only gives you a total spp gain of 17. Simply because spending points into a savant tree gives you 0.75 universal spp per AP.
So you gained 17 spp to our main element.

But you lose 50 spp, crit. chances, 25 proc spp for your secondary element, making your sorc a one trick pony, that can't do smack when you face something that's immune to your main element. And you also lose cores like Immolation, which give you more DPS then that extra 17 spp you get from harper.

I tried harper on my sorc. It's absolutely horrible compared to a second savant tree.

It's an option. I prefer to concentrate on 1 element, and being slower with my secondary elementS when I face something immune to my primary element.

Spending in the Harper tree is more than 17: especially considering that a savant tree gives 0.75 per AP spent.

[Michele]

I also just read your build Nice way of skyrocketing numbers.
Aa
I'll show you how mine skyrockets as well:

523 Electric
+30 Action boost
+50 Draconic Fury
+25 Eardweller
+25 Electrocution
+20 Empyrean Magic
+24 Meridian Fragment

OMG I suddenly have 697 SPELL POWER SORCERES OP MUST NERF

Lightning bolt SLA crappy Go back to your druid, I appreaciate your good luck suggestion tho, it was a good one.

Oh wait, with Good luck I have 699 Spell power, will take Epic skill focus: spellcraft to go above 702.

Eardweller and meridian fragment don't stack because they are both psionic bonus. Don't you think a bit stupid when you send these kind of messages?

[Rys]

Eardweller and meridian fragment don't stack because they are both psionic bonus. Don't you think a bit stupid when you send these kind of messages?

Lol Michele. This is a second build thread where you have decided to act like a complete dbag because you think you know better. A lot of build choices are about flavor and playstyle and threads like this are for inspiration. Suggestions are great of course but not in the way you are handing them over.

[Michele]

Lol Michele. This is a second build thread where you have decided to act like a complete dbag because you think you know better. A lot of build choices are about flavor and playstyle and threads like this are for inspiration. Suggestions are great of course but not in the way you are handing them over.

I "don't know better".
I "know something" and sometimes I share it.
Some people appreciate that, and some people are too proud to admit that their build can improve.

[Eth]

It's an option. I prefer to concentrate on 1 element, and being slower with my secondary elementS when I face something immune to my primary element.

Spending in the Harper tree is more than 17: especially considering that a savant tree gives 0.75 per AP spent.

You said following your AP setup which lists 44 SPP for 36 points.
36 AP spend in a savant tree gives you 27 universal spell power.
The difference between 44 and 27 is 17.
That aside I only count 42 SPP in harper...

Let alone that we still lost 75 SPP for our secondary element, caster levels, crit chances, SLAs, actually useful core abilities, etc...

[Monkey-Boy]

you are without hope...

Can we see some YouTube videos of your toon in action?

[Wizza]

Eardweller and meridian fragment don't stack because they are both psionic bonus. Don't you think a bit stupid when you send these kind of messages?

That's right, then why did you ask me if I can keep meridian fragment up? I can just use Eardweller

Sorry, back to 670 SP Build sucks, must take Epic skill focus: spellcraft

[Vanhooger]

I thought you said ACTION POINTS. Not re-doing my whole build to make it suitable for you.



No. I'm not gonna LR, let alone TR, to get +2 spell power.



This is as good as taking Epic skill focus: Swim.



Maybe actually read the whole build. I have +11 on Deific Diadem. Tell me how to improve my Int score with suggestions that make sense at least



Again, tell me an example of gearset with +20 Spellcraft item on it and let's see if I like it.



My Spellcraft calculation is not 100% accurate I believe. Missing more than that I believe.



Good point.



I hope you are kidding. If you are not, I suggest you to play a Sorcerer before giving them suggestions. You are asking a Sorcerer to NOT focus on a secondary element, thus losing all my Fire Spell Power AND my Fire dot to get 48 Spell power and +2 (TWO) Intelligence.



I will.



I'm not gonna spend three hours to get a +1 buff in the Cargo hold every hour. I never bothered with the old ship buffs and I will not bother now.



You could TR to Artificer and play a PDK. I don't like bladeforgeds, they are too easy.



Libram is situational. And again, show me a gear set for Sorcerer that is reasonable.



MAX TOTAL of 592. When it happens, happens. And yes, I get that bonus all the time. I'm a man, I don't avoid any physical contact with them.



Was thinking about that already actually. Will need to sacrifice points from somewhere else most likely and I need to re-make a TF weapon which I don't want to.



Why would I replace my cloak with sage's mantle when I have +6 Enchant on my Weapon?
Why would I remove my belt, which is an awesome CONSTITUION +11 and Dodge item? Where do I get my Con+11 item them?
Why would I need +11 Charisma from Libram if I have it on my Helm?
Why would I TR to BF just to equip a Circle of malevolence or anything else?
If I lose my Cloak and my belt, where do I get a +11 Con and +11 Dodge items?

Your ideas are kind of confused, you just say random suggestions without thinking to the whole plan.



Tell him Lannist- I send my regards. Show me how to get 700-800 SP on a Sorcerer and I will think about it.

Before you do it, make sure you are not dumping 40 points into the Harper tree at least.



Never claimed to be. But it is anyway.

Yes, I had more spell power then this build but I was a fire sorcerer. Fire spell power is much easier to get in exchange of some survivability but I didn't notice it to be honest. The only thing I was missing was the konckdown thing but not even that much with the prr/mrr change & light armor.

Sorry I probably quoted the wrong post

[Michele]

You said following your AP setup which lists 44 SPP for 36 points.
36 AP spend in a savant tree gives you 27 universal spell power.
The difference between 44 and 27 is 17.
That aside I only count 42 SPP in harper...

Let alone that we still lost 75 SPP for our secondary element, caster levels, crit chances, SLAs, actually useful core abilities, etc...

I'll be more precise.

If you spend 36 points in the harper tree you get this "universal" spell power: +16 agent of good III +1 int modifier +3 harper enchantment +15 versatile adept IV +3 highly skilled +10 harper enchantment of magic = 48

If you spend 36 points in your secondary savant tree you get this spellpower: 36 * 0.75 = 27

So it's +21 universal spell power (you can even get even get vigor of life instead of spell points or hit points for more healing amplification, you also get +1 DC if you get moment of clarity).

However I respect the fact that you prefer to grow a secondary element instead of spending points in the harper tree (I would probably do the same thing, growing a secondary element).
I just proposed and alternative way to increase spell power.

[Michele]

Yes, I had more spell power then this build but I was a fire sorcerer. Fire spell power is much easier to get in exchange of some survivability but I didn't notice it to be honest. The only thing I was missing was the konckdown thing but not even that much with the prr/mrr change & light armor

Seen Wizza?
Vanooger is the best sorcerer I know together with Overvaan on Cannith server. He is the sorcerer I was speaking about.

It's up to him if he wants to share his knowledge on how to reach more spell power, or simply let you use your brain to realize it

[Michele]

Can we see some YouTube videos of your toon in action?

I can only show you old videos when I was a wisdom based pure druid in shiradi destiny.

Now I'm running an intelligence based druid 17 / water savant 3 in draconic destiny, its dps is increased a lot, but I don't have any videos of my new build.

If you still want to see my old videos, go to this link: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...itan-Ice-Druid

However I don't know why you want to compare a druid with a sorcerer...

[Eth]

I'll be more precise.

If you spend 36 points in the harper tree you get this "universal" spell power: +16 agent of good III +1 int modifier +3 harper enchantment +15 versatile adept IV +3 highly skilled +10 harper enchantment of magic = 48

If you spend 36 points in your secondary savant tree you get this spellpower: 36 * 0.75 = 27

So it's +21 universal spell power (you can even get even get vigor of life instead of spell points or hit points for more healing amplification, you also get +1 DC if you get moment of clarity).

However I respect the fact that you prefer to grow a secondary element instead of spending points in the harper tree (I would probably do the same thing, growing a secondary element).
I just proposed and alternative way to increase spell power.

Um, versatile adept IV and Enchantment of magic?
I'm pretty sure even vanhooger and overvaan will agree that not taking Tier 5 savant abilities is pretty terrible.
The 15% damage debuff alone is more worth than any of the spell power increases your suggestions bring.
Leave alone the other goodies...

That distribution wouldn't even work with your other suggestions.
You can't go 41+36 and take stuff like Traditional Caster from Human.
If you don't go 41 in savant you lose your capstone, that would be even more terrible.