Farwind: An Air savant Endgame EE DPS Build

[Wizza]

Yes, and yes. I suppose it can drop in any chest, but good to know it can drop in that one too.

That's good to know, thanks

[moo_cow]

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Eh, I guess. That armor and weapon are completely trash, I'm actually not happy to wear them just for some Spellpower bonus. That 5% Insightful Spell power might be better than 30 Spellpower, just for the sole reason that I would feel awful for equipping those 2 items everytime.

The difference between 30 spell power and 5% spell lore is basically the exact same. When I did the math on my current spell power it was a difference of .51 damage in favor of 30 spell power. But having to use cloak and changing armor drops all dc's by 1 and enchant by 2. So I'm not really sure what I should use.

[Wizza]

The difference between 30 spell power and 5% spell lore is basically the exact same. When I did the math on my current spell power it was a difference of .51 damage in favor of 30 spell power. But having to use cloak and changing armor drops all dc's by 1 and enchant by 2. So I'm not really sure what I should use.

I still think 5% Spell lore is way better, for the only reasons of not swapping 20 equipment gear everytime. If I can fit the +10 SP from the Human Enhancement, totally worth it.

[Eth]

The difference between 30 spell power and 5% spell lore is basically the exact same. When I did the math on my current spell power it was a difference of .51 damage in favor of 30 spell power. But having to use cloak and changing armor drops all dc's by 1 and enchant by 2. So I'm not really sure what I should use.

It's only 4% crit for your main element.
The spellpower difference should be 28 or 32, depending if mythic bonuses on armor and weapon stack.

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TF + Golden Orb
36 Implement, 150 main spp, 22 main crit, 5 insight crit, 2 mythic spp

TF + ToEE Set
36 Implement, 156 main spp, 23 main crit, 20 set quality spp, 4 (8?) mythic spp

[moo_cow]

I am curious how you guys are running your sorcs now that we have these set bonuses. I am still reluctant to remove my shadows scale and TF because it would drop me 2 dc's, that I like having for ToEE. I can't seem to find a set up where I don't lose a few dc's. Only thing I can see myself doing is using golden orb on red names.

[Wizza]

I am curious how you guys are running your sorcs now that we have these set bonuses. I am still reluctant to remove my shadows scale and TF because it would drop me 2 dc's, that I like having for ToEE. I can't seem to find a set up where I don't lose a few dc's. Only thing I can see myself doing is using golden orb on red names.

I'm not really playing at the moment but I'd do the same. Equip Orb with red names, leave the other stuff untouched during questing. There is no way I'm losing DCs in ToEE with those crazy saves in there.

[Vanhooger]

It's not about the build but I thought you would appreciate this :

We will be looking at caster performance at the high end specifically against bosses on Epic Elite. Casters could use a boss/single target DPS epic spell that is a bit more mana efficient, and it will probably come in the form of a stacking DoT. Casters probably need some additional mana efficient options other than spamming Magic Missiles with Shiradi.

At some point we would like to look at Magister and Draconic Incarnation as well.

Sev~

[Wizza]

It's not about the build but I thought you would appreciate this :

We will be looking at caster performance at the high end specifically against bosses on Epic Elite. Casters could use a boss/single target DPS epic spell that is a bit more mana efficient, and it will probably come in the form of a stacking DoT. Casters probably need some additional mana efficient options other than spamming Magic Missiles with Shiradi.

At some point we would like to look at Magister and Draconic Incarnation as well.

Sev~

I'm afraid of anything that Sev~ touches so yeah, not holding my breath to be honest.

[Wizza]

I may re-roll to Cold savant if Loot on Lamannia is tweaked and the raid is really, really fun. There is no place for Fire and Air Savants in the new packs.

[moo_cow]

I may re-roll to Cold savant if Loot on Lamannia is tweaked and the raid is really, really fun. There is no place for Fire and Air Savants in the new packs.

I would have assumed that everything in shavarath took electric since they did in heroic amrath. This is lame to hear. I have always loved air/cold. So I bet I won't mind cold/air. But still.

I really hate having to respec my sorc every update to a new element...

[Wizza]

I would have assumed that everything in shavarath took electric since they did in heroic amrath. This is lame to hear. I have always loved air/cold. So I bet I won't mind cold/air. But still.

I really hate having to respec my sorc every update to a new element...

There are dretches everywhere. Dretches are immune to Elec and resistant to Fire, Archons are immune to Electric, Tieflings have huge Electric and Fire Resistance, tons of Fire Reavers so Fire is not optimal either. There are two Electric-immune quest bosses.

I thought about it a bit more and even Air as secondary is absolutely worthless. The way to go seems Cold/Acid or even Acid/Cold.

[moo_cow]

There are dretches everywhere. Dretches are immune to Elec and resistant to Fire, Archons are immune to Electric, Tieflings have huge Electric and Fire Resistance, tons of Fire Reavers so Fire is not optimal either. There are two Electric-immune quest bosses.

I thought about it a bit more and even Air as secondary is absolutely worthless. The way to go seems Cold/Acid or even Acid/Cold.

I refuse to play an acid savant lol.

[Wizza]

I refuse to play an acid savant lol.

Good news: Air savant is actually not bad for the raid, despite some Tiefling with some serious Electric Resistance. But if you plan on doing the new quests, should totally re-roll to Cold as primary. Air as secondary can work.

[HuneyMunster]

Have you tried Shout and Greater Shout instead of Incendiary Cloud? Not sure how to fit in Shout in though. Cyclonic Blast could have been decent if didnt have such a bad area of effect and removes clouds.

[Wizza]

Have you tried Shout and Greater Shout instead of Incendiary Cloud? Not sure how to fit in Shout in though. Cyclonic Blast could have been decent if didnt have such a bad area of effect and removes clouds.

Greater Shout is inferior to Mass Hold by simply not granting Helpless damage. I had it when cap was 20 but unslotted it when I specced as Enchantment secondary. If I remember correctly, it's just a daze effect as well, so removed when hit by damage. It's simply not good for a Sorcerer with so many AoEs. If I want to "stun" something and Mass Hold doesn't work, Solid Fog + Ice Storm + Waves of Exhaustion is fantastic, they are so slowed that it feels like they are stunned.

[HuneyMunster]

Greater Shout is inferior to Mass Hold by simply not granting Helpless damage. I had it when cap was 20 but unslotted it when I specced as Enchantment secondary. If I remember correctly, it's just a daze effect as well, so removed when hit by damage. It's simply not good for a Sorcerer with so many AoEs. If I want to "stun" something and Mass Hold doesn't work, Solid Fog + Ice Storm + Waves of Exhaustion is fantastic, they are so slowed that it feels like they are stunned.

I think greater shout daze doesn't break on damage unless it was changed since bard past as not used it in a long time. Though it may have use to be classed as a stun that dont render helpless state like soundburst use to. I was thinking more on the lines of damage+vulnerability verses drenches etc, whether they've been held or not.

[Wizza]

I think greater shout daze doesn't break on damage unless it was changed since bard past as not used it in a long time. Though it may have use to be classed as a stun that dont render helpless state like soundburst use to. I was thinking more on the lines of damage+vulnerability verses drenches etc, whether they've been held or not.

Remember that it's also a Fortitude save, which is also one of the highest save of mobs. I'll have to try it out in the new pack and see how it is.

[peng]

Greater Shout is inferior to Mass Hold by simply not granting Helpless damage. I had it when cap was 20 but unslotted it when I specced as Enchantment secondary. If I remember correctly, it's just a daze effect as well, so removed when hit by damage. It's simply not good for a Sorcerer with so many AoEs. If I want to "stun" something and Mass Hold doesn't work, Solid Fog + Ice Storm + Waves of Exhaustion is fantastic, they are so slowed that it feels like they are stunned.

Greater shout was never a daze effect, that's sonic blast. Greater shout was changed to cause helplessness with the bard pass. It's a very short duration stun though. Another (also brief) option is sound burst sla from exalted.

[Wizza]

Greater shout was never a daze effect, that's sonic blast. Greater shout was changed to cause helplessness with the bard pass. It's a very short duration stun though. Another (also brief) option is sound burst sla from exalted.

Cool, cool. I read the wiki and it said Daze as well. I'll check it out

[Rogann]

There is no place for Fire and Air Savants in the new packs.