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    Default Melee cross-class UMD

    So I did a bit of research and found that in order to get a semi-decent UMD as a cross-class skill for my specific character I would have to grind out a few things:
    11 heroic levels
    5 epic levels
    5 charisma mod
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    3 dragon touched(exceptional)
    3 golden cartouche(competance)
    1 big top(Enhancement) [no epic version available]
    2 luck bonus
    -------------------those four require me to swap a lot of gear
    4 GH

    And these two are very temporary
    2 action boost
    2 walk of the sun
    (human monk)

    So thats 38 by my count
    And would let me use heal scrolls pretty reliably(UMD 40)
    But is this really worth it? What concerns me is swaping four pieces of gear during combat which doesnt sound very safe(yes i can use them outside of combat, but I could also medidate or drink a pot, but would need to to heal someone else)And ofcourse there's spending all those skill points in UMD, but then again, to make any skill useful now-a-days you need to dedicate a few dozen points. Any critique would be great, thoughts, maybe just get enough to use restricted weapons or something. Thanks.

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    There are actually a few other options to help get your UMD up.

    House D Collectible Maxon the Dreamwalker
    +1 to +3 Charisma Skill - Alchemical Bonus from Potion of Eagle's Skill
    +1 to +3 Charisma - Alchemical Bonus from Potion of Influence
    +2 Charisma from Bard Song (Epic Level Song)
    Yugoloth Potion Essence of Seduction +2 stacking Charisma

    Epic Destinies:
    Shadowdancer Tier 2 Skill Mastery: Passive Bonus: +1 stacking to all skills.
    Fatesinger Tier 2 Lucidity: (Passive) [+2/+4/+6] to Concentration, Diplomacy, [1/+2/+3] Use Magic Device; and an extra [1/+2/+3] song per rest. (This does require the use of Songs to Utilize as a twist - Bard Past Life songs do work for this but do not gain the Extra Songs)

    Keep in mind that using a Scroll in combat is dangerous without the Concentration to back it up.

    Also a note: utilizing Heroism potions to help boost UMD for use of GH scrolls can help stair step your UMD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outzider View Post
    So I did a bit of research and found that in order to get a semi-decent UMD as a cross-class skill for my specific character I would have to grind out a few things:
    11 heroic levels
    5 epic levels
    5 charisma mod
    -------------------
    3 dragon touched(exceptional)
    3 golden cartouche(competance)
    1 big top(Enhancement) [no epic version available]
    2 luck bonus
    -------------------those four require me to swap a lot of gear
    4 GH

    And these two are very temporary
    2 action boost
    2 walk of the sun
    (human monk)

    So thats 38 by my count
    And would let me use heal scrolls pretty reliably(UMD 40)
    But is this really worth it? What concerns me is swaping four pieces of gear during combat which doesnt sound very safe(yes i can use them outside of combat, but I could also medidate or drink a pot, but would need to to heal someone else)And ofcourse there's spending all those skill points in UMD, but then again, to make any skill useful now-a-days you need to dedicate a few dozen points. Any critique would be great, thoughts, maybe just get enough to use restricted weapons or something. Thanks.
    Wait for the enhancement update: While this is subject to change, it's in Alpha testing, right now on Lamania as a human you'll have to take human versatility to take human adaptability and so forth for each human adaptability you want to take. So many people playing human will be taking one human versatility so they can take one human adaptability (skill boost on lamania is taken once for +4 to all skills, for you that 2 more UMD. But that's not all, human's also get a racial enhancement for a heroism and greater heroism clicky they can take (duration = character level x minutes), so thats 4 more.

    Again this could all be subject to change

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    I don't think I seen anyone mention Greensteel. That's a possible +6 cha skills. Granted, can be a bit more grindy to get.
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    You can surely boost your charisma for more than 5 points.

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    http://ddowiki.com/page/Use_Magic_Device

    Plenty of info on what sources you can get UMD from.

    Also, yes, it's worth it to get UMD, unless you enjoy waiting for a babysitter all the time.

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