adamantine body for wf arti?

[droid327]

Why isnt this more widespread? Asf doesnt affect artis unless youre scrolling reconstruct, and it gives a good chunk of prr...

[unbongwah]

It provides a little less PRR than actual heavy armor does; it caps your MDB which affects your Dodge as well as AC; the DR from AB (or WF enhs) doesn't stack with other sources; it cancels Evasion (which a pure arty won't get normally, but would if they went SD or PA as their primary ED - and obviously an arty w/monk/rog splash like Juggernaut has Evasion); and as you say you have to worry about ASF w/arcane scrolls. So, most people don't think the pros of Addy Body outweigh the cons.

[Inouk]

It provides a little less PRR than actual heavy armor does; it caps your MDB which affects your Dodge as well as AC; the DR from AB (or WF enhs) doesn't stack with other sources; it cancels Evasion (which a pure arty won't get normally, but would if they went SD or PA as their primary ED - and obviously an arty w/monk/rog splash like Juggernaut has Evasion); and as you say you have to worry about ASF w/arcane scrolls. So, most people don't think the pros of Addy Body outweigh the cons.

Very good response. Additionally it takes a feat that would be valuable to use on something else.

[droid327]

Very good response. Additionally it takes a feat that would be valuable to use on something else.

Well I dont know if ~10% reduction in physical damage (assuming no other PRR), more or less, isnt competitive as a feat on its own. But I forgot that it caps your Dodge, which does kinda mitigate the defensive bonus you gain from the PRR. I wasnt that concerned with the AC or the ASF or the DR, but just on terms of PRR vs Dodge...well, I dunno...10% Dodge isnt exactly automatic, but if you get PRR from anything else, then the value of the PRR from AB does go down.

[Inouk]

Well I dont know if ~10% reduction in physical damage (assuming no other PRR), more or less, isnt competitive as a feat on its own. But I forgot that it caps your Dodge, which does kinda mitigate the defensive bonus you gain from the PRR. I wasnt that concerned with the AC or the ASF or the DR, but just on terms of PRR vs Dodge...well, I dunno...10% Dodge isnt exactly automatic, but if you get PRR from anything else, then the value of the PRR from AB does go down.

Right, but the point was many people would skip it if it was free, because of the reasons unbongwah gave above (the cons may outweigh the pros), but then on top of that you have to use a feet on it.

[Truga]

Adamantine body will give an additional 10 PRR with enhancements, when the pass hits. That'd make me think about it more seriously.