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    Quote Originally Posted by Iriale View Post
    In AD&D abilities were not as important as they would be in 3.X, and in AD&D elves had great options in magic outside of abilities (like exclusive spells and magic items). WOTC made a mistake when passed the race to 3rd edition but after they added great elven wizards options (such as elf generalist wizard option: one spell slot of the highest level at no cost. See Races of the wild) And yet many players believe that these options are not equal to the second edition elf wizard.

    Turbine should not repeat the initial WOTC mistakes. They should do it right from the start.

    PFRPG fixed the elf race: +2 int, +2 dex, -2 con and Elven magic feature (+2 spell penetration) This in core race! I don’t like PFRPG, but it shows how many people see that WOTC made a mistake at the beginning of third edition. Are you suggesting that Turbine repeat the same mistake, after one decade? It's time to do things right from the start. By fluff elves have always been great wizards (too in 3.X: favored class, wizard), and their number choices should reflect this.

    Archer and dex-based warrior options are ok for the race. They are fluff-wise. Nature-related options are ok for the race (although Phiarlan elves are more about illusion) But wizard choices are too fluff wise (remember: favored class wizard, in second and third editions) Why do you want limit the race? And elves too need more choices for multiclass wizard-fighters (a few caster level bonuses for multiclass toons would be nice) Elven wizard archmages are a classic, but the fighter wizard too.
    AD&D boned elf wizards with level restrictions as well so no in D&D Elves have never really been great at magic they have been great at blending magic with other things. 4th really tried to give high elves (Eladrin) the wizard game with the +Dex +Int show unfortunately they made wand Implements which elves excelled at because they were based on dex utter and complete fail in comparison to orb and staff Implements. Which was further complicated by Dex/Int both modifying the same defenses.

    But once again I have no issue making elf fit the lore of Elves being good at magic. but they already have that +3 Spell pen, extra SP, and +1 with enchantments are all available. Those things should be far more valuable to DC wizards and that I think is a good role for the pure elf wizzy. WF get survivability Elf Gets dependability, Humans make better blasters it actually fits pretty well thematically. I do like the extra caster levels Idea for multi classed Wizards but it seems they are trying to break away from making elves go wizard and it just wouldn't fit thematically for sorcs clerics ect...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seikojin View Post
    Looking at EllisDee37's thread on Elf: http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=17

    And my suggested thread on Elf: http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=17

    And looking at the stuff here, I think having selectors for each of the selector enhancements would be perfect to add the caster related options.

    I think the multi-selectors definitely could favor versatility over generic ideals. I will be scanning my suggested versions and update them based on the feedback I get. So far the only feedback I got was it frees up too many AP and that the AP reqs get too high. So I will be going over that to hopefully find a better solution.
    I like the Idea of having a choice between ability scores like dex/ int for elves but it either needs to mimic humans can't chose the same twice, or human needs to be able to select the same one twice. Have you already started a thread for that suggestion I would really like to see the community input on it.

    I'm thinking
    Elf Dex/Int for wizzy of course
    Dwarf Con/Wis Cleric Seems a sutable secondary for Dorfs
    Halfling Dex/Cha? Really everyone likes the shorties
    HOrc Str/Con RAWWWRRR!!!!
    WF Con/Int Wizzy and Artificer both seem to fit well thematically with the living construct.

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