New/Modified Skills

[Failedlegend]

It seems the devs have decided to Make Heal/Repair useful as well as adding a new skill Spellcraft and augmenting the perform skill

Spellcraft - Increases Spell Power 1:1 except for Postive, Negative, Rust/Repair or Sonic we can't see wizard or Sorc but I'm guessing this replaces the current spellpower enhancements

Heal - Increase positive/negative energy spell power guess I'm training my PM in this.

Repair - Increase Repair/Rust Spellpower

Perform - Increases Sonic Spell Power

[Tid12]

nvm

[Violith]

hopefully this is an extra addition rather then completely overriding the old enhancements. my spellcasters dont have enough skill points to get a viable spell power by using skills.

[Lilliana]

hopefully this is an extra addition rather then completely overriding the old enhancements. my spellcasters dont have enough skill points to get a viable spell power by using skills.

So far it seems it is in addition.
As a cleric my old spellpower lines are gone in the new system. But I get 1.5 spellpower per AP I put into the healing tree though. So if I put all my points into the healing tree, I end up with a spell power of 140 to positive healing and 71 to Light. So no more picking just Life Magic to get healing
So I guess you could say there is a more direct link between investment into the healing enhancement and the resulting spellpower. Light and Alignment spellpower is worse off even with heavy investment in AP's.

But I'm a little annoyed light spellpower also comes from spellcraft and not from the heal skill. At this point I have problems seeing a offensive divine caster being a cleric

[Tid12]

Reading it better: I hope Spellcraft is not a replacement but an addition to the Spell power enhancements.

I can get 100 Spell power from enhancements, no way I could get a skill up to 100. It would be a big nerf if this is a replacement. Tell us more.

[Shadowaras]

Reading it better: I hope Spellcraft is not a replacement but an addition to the Spell power enhancements.

I can get 100 Spell power from enhancements, no way I could get a skill up to 100. It would be a big nerf if this is a replacement. Tell us more.

well if we take example from arti tree im afraid spell power is seriously nerfed ...arti lost alot from that aspect didnt see any spell power boost xept the +8 uni from runearm and the +$ or 5 was it on crits .. hope rest caster type classes dont have same fate ..or at least nerf mobs hp along with it ..

[Jay203]

so... heal and repair are still useless for non-innate casters

[Missing_Minds]

so... heal and repair are still useless for non-innate casters

This is probably in addition to what it already did.
So... yeah.

edit: that is if you don't use any destinies to help heal.

edit 2: Light monks

[Archangel666]

This is probably in addition to what it already did.
So... yeah.

edit: that is if you don't use any destinies to help heal.

edit 2: Light monks

Dark Monks too possibly. Touch of Death is Negative Energy isn't it?

[oweieie]

Dark Monks too possibly. Touch of Death is Negative Energy isn't it?

It is a proc, like flaming burst, not a spell. Things that boost spells don't work on it.

[Archangel666]

It is a proc, like flaming burst, not a spell. Things that boost spells don't work on it.

Ah yes. Still Imbue Slaying Arrows on Live does 500 Untyped damage while on Lamm its "250 boosted by crits", so who knows what they have planned for Monks. After seeing what they did to my Ranger I'm dreading it. Mine's Light.

[Tid12]

so... heal and repair are still useless for non-innate casters

Not really. If you have twisted Cocoon, Heal skill is now really good.

[Violith]

so... heal and repair are still useless for non-innate casters

repair is unless your warforged....and even then it'll probably be a dump skill. Heal can be useful for alot of things at epic level.

[HungarianRhapsody]

so... heal and repair are still useless for non-innate casters

The first 50 points of spell power are more important than the second and the second 50 points of spell power are more important than the third, etc. because all of those bonuses are additive instead of multiplicative.

Heal is going to be a very nice boost for anyone who has a self-healing ability twisted in with their destinies. And everyone should have *some* sort of self healing since you can't always count on the other party members to heal you (even hirelings since they're often dead or having a nice quiet seizure in the corner while they try to figure out what you want them to do).

[HatsuharuZ]

Heal and Repair would be more useful if they applied to potions, or maybe wands and scrolls, as well.

Well, the current changes are a step in the right direction, imo. I imagine that we'll get a bit less spellpower from enhancements as a result, however.

Last thought: With the 'spellcraft' skill, will the balance of power between sorcerers and wizards change? Sorcerers can still cast faster, but with wizards having intelligence as their main stat, their spells' efficacy will increase.

[Gkar]

Last thought: With the 'spellcraft' skill, will the balance of power between sorcerers and wizards change? Sorcerers can still cast faster, but with wizards having intelligence as their main stat, their spells' efficacy will increase.

It's not like you need that many skills on a sorc, shouldn't be any problem to keep it maxed if you want to.

[Tid12]

It's not like you need that many skills on a sorc, shouldn't be any problem to keep it maxed if you want to.

Yeah but it's silly to have it Int based.

Let's face it: Spell power is needed more to Sorcerers than Wizards. Being INT based, Wizards will have no problem maxing it out while sorcerer will have to use Int tomes to actually max it. PLUS, wizzies will have a +20~ mod because, again, they are an INT based class.

[RavenStormclaw]

Yeah but it's silly to have it Int based.

Let's face it: Spell power is needed more to Sorcerers than Wizards. Being INT based, Wizards will have no problem maxing it out while sorcerer will have to use Int tomes to actually max it. PLUS, wizzies will have a +20~ mod because, again, they are an INT based class.

I disagree with you for a couple of reasons.

1) Wizards need the boost. Right now sorcerers rule. Pure DPS, faster casting times, and way more spells points. Other than versatility which at some point doesn't matter that much sorcerers just dominate by a margin that is ridiculous. Having in intel based will help bring wizzies closer to sorcerers. they'll never pass them...especially with the savants abilities but it will help. this is much needed.

2) Spellcraft implies the study of spells (in the traditional PnP setting). Sorcerers abilities are innate not learned. I think making intel based is right just based on what the concept of spell craft is. the study of spells, spell casting, and spell effects etc.

[Tid12]

I disagree with you for a couple of reasons.

1) Wizards need the boost. Right now sorcerers rule. Pure DPS, faster casting times, and way more spells points. Other than versatility which at some point doesn't matter that much sorcerers just dominate by a margin that is ridiculous. Having in intel based will help bring wizzies closer to sorcerers. they'll never pass them...especially with the savants abilities but it will help. this is much needed.

2) Spellcraft implies the study of spells (in the traditional PnP setting). Sorcerers abilities are innate not learned. I think making intel based is right just based on what the concept of spell craft is. the study of spells, spell casting, and spell effects etc.

1) They BOTH need the boost. Wizards are not damage dealers hence they need less Spell Power. You want Wizards to have more spell power than Sorcerers, be more versatile, more feats, more self-healing with their pre? Lol, no way.

2) Don't care about PnP sorry. This is DDO Online, it's written in the upper left corner of the forum.

[HatsuharuZ]

It's not like you need that many skills on a sorc, shouldn't be any problem to keep it maxed if you want to.

Even so, wizards are generally going to have higher Int modifiers, and thus the total spellcraft skill will be higher.