PA needed for ranger's bow str?

[Dreadmaster1993]

as the title says, i was wondering if the ranger class needs to take PA feat to get the effects of bow strenght
same for combat expertice

[Archangel666]

Power Attack only works with Melee attacks, not Ranged.

Same with Combat Expertise.

The only thing you need to work with Bow Strength is Strength.

[Bacab]

The only thing you need to work with Bow Strength is Strength.

And a Bow. Bow STR doesn't work with X-Bows (not everyone knows this for some reason)

[Archangel666]

And a Bow. Bow STR doesn't work with X-Bows (not everyone knows this for some reason)

*sigh* Yeah, I sometimes forget that Common Sense isn't actually all that Common.

[Dreadmaster1993]

Power Attack only works with Melee attacks, not Ranged.

Same with Combat Expertise.

The only thing you need to work with Bow Strength is Strength.

but i mean , they show up as pre freat for bow str, just wondering if the feat is whorking even if u don't have those
and combat expertise isnt melee only, its just atk for def

[Garix]

Only required to take bow strength as any class other than a ranger.

Rangers AUTOMATICALLY receive bow strength for free at level 1

[Archangel666]

but i mean , they show up as pre freat for bow str, just wondering if the feat is whorking even if u don't have those
and combat expertise isnt melee only, its just atk for def

Those are pre-reqs for if say a Fighter wanted to take the Feat. Why it's a pre-req is anyone's guess, but Rangers get the Feat for free at level 1 regardless of pre-reqs.

[unbongwah]

as the title says, i was wondering if the ranger class needs to take PA feat to get the effects of bow strenght

No. Rangers get all their feats for free when they hit the right level. The pre-reqs are for those poor saps who aren't rgrs and need to get those feats the long way.

[Inouk]

You don't need the pre-req feat, but... if you aren't taking PA for your ranger you are almost certainly doing it wrong anyway.

[droid327]

You don't need the pre-req feat, but... if you aren't taking PA for your ranger you are almost certainly doing it wrong anyway.

....unless you want to play a fulltime ranged AA and are taking Precision instead, since Precision and PA are exclusive?

[unbongwah]

Let's not go down that rabbit hole, just to answer the OP's question about pre-reqs.

[WruntJunior]

....unless you want to play a fulltime ranged AA and are taking Precision instead, since Precision and PA are exclusive?

...because going ranged full-time isn't doing it wrong? >_> Honestly, even my 10k stars monkcher can't stay ranged full-time and stay effective...a pure ranger definitely couldn't do it (not even a 12/6/2).

To unbongwah, OP's question has already been answered...multiple times. :P