Auctioning: Rare Obsenity Kopesh with Pandimonium prefix

[Blank_Zero]

ASAH trades are pretty stressful.

The easiest way to do it is during a low-traffic time period.

[Renvar]

Been looking at this.

It's a nice weapon that has several damage add ons that are rarely resisted/immune. Sonic, neg energy, evil damage. Add on neg levels affect.

Comparing it to a Drow Khopesh, a solid comparison given that it is a non-DR breaking DPS weapon, I see the following:

Lower base damage by about 8 per swing.

Maiming damage and Roaring are roughly equivalent as a 2d6 on crit proc.

Neg Energy yields about 7 more damage per hit to almost equal the higher base dice damage from the Drow Khop, as long as you are not fighting something immune to neg energy.

This Khop still has the screaming and thundering that proc on crit for an extra 11 or so points of damage.

The Drow Khop has a higher crit range, though. The impact of which is harder to quantify but, adding in higher base damage and the on crit effect of maiming will offset the screaming and thundering.

That leaves you with the level drain and evil damage for this khopesh vs. the add on tactics boost from the drow khopesh (stun, trip, sunder, c.m., tendon). Hard to quantify this difference as the drow weapon suffixes are very build dependent. Debuff vs. crowd control is a toss up.

Looks like this weapon is slightly better DPS against non-evil mobs (spiders, bears, wolves and such) worse against undead or sonic resistant/immune mobs, and roughly equal against most of the rest.

The kicker is that the drow Khopesh has no UMD requirement. This one will require a 32 UMD. That won't stop rogue splashes, pallys, an several other builds, but will probably be out of the reach of low-Cha builds where UMD remains cross class.

All in all, I would value it in a similar ballpark to the drow khopesh, for a select audience. Maybe 4-5 million plat/2500 TP/500 Shards (thats actually 2795 TP but its a ballpark).

It s a very nice weapon.

[Raliar]

Been looking at this.

It's a nice weapon that has several damage add ons that are rarely resisted/immune. Sonic, neg energy, evil damage. Add on neg levels affect.

Comparing it to a Drow Khopesh, a solid comparison given that it is a non-DR breaking DPS weapon, I see the following:

Lower base damage by about 8 per swing.

Maiming damage and Roaring are roughly equivalent as a 2d6 on crit proc.

Neg Energy yields about 7 more damage per hit to almost equal the higher base dice damage from the Drow Khop, as long as you are not fighting something immune to neg energy.

This Khop still has the screaming and thundering that proc on crit for an extra 11 or so points of damage.

The Drow Khop has a higher crit range, though. The impact of which is harder to quantify but, adding in higher base damage and the on crit effect of maiming will offset the screaming and thundering.

That leaves you with the level drain and evil damage for this khopesh vs. the add on tactics boost from the drow khopesh (stun, trip, sunder, c.m., tendon). Hard to quantify this difference as the drow weapon suffixes are very build dependent. Debuff vs. crowd control is a toss up.

Looks like this weapon is slightly better DPS against non-evil mobs (spiders, bears, wolves and such) worse against undead or sonic resistant/immune mobs, and roughly equal against most of the rest.

The kicker is that the drow Khopesh has no UMD requirement. This one will require a 32 UMD. That won't stop rogue splashes, pallys, an several other builds, but will probably be out of the reach of low-Cha builds where UMD remains cross class.

All in all, I would value it in a similar ballpark to the drow khopesh, for a select audience. Maybe 4-5 million plat/2500 TP/500 Shards (thats actually 2795 TP but its a ballpark).

It s a very nice weapon.

I calced its about 21 extra per swing not including the level drain. The price is hard to quantify considering the rarity. I acquired this item for the cost of a box if I cannot get that value or higher I will keep it myself considering I was very happy using it when I did.

It might do similar damage to the drow kopesh have not done the math myself but it gives you a more unique choice and I am sure people that look at it are aware of the umd requirement, I was easily able to use it on my bard or a twf fvs. They're some options

. I do appreciate the constructive criticism unlike others, you try to base your comments and suggestions with some thought.

=)

[Machination]

I have traded many items via the ASAH between friends and guildies.

1. You both open up the ASAH.

2. One person posts item. the other has the search all ready.

3. On the count of three, post. Other person sees it.

The chances of someone actually seeing the item in that 3 second window, and buying it, are so slim that I would say the odds of a script on the server sniping it are probably higher

I'm sorry but anyone who bids on this is foolish. why? because there is no way you can guarantee that the "winning" bidder will be able to get the item. You post it on the asah - what's to stop someone else from coming in and placing a bid on it? nada.

this is truly a case of buyer beware.

[jakeelala]

Been looking at this...

What would you calculate my +2 Cosmic Hvy Rptr of Obscenity (old version with evil burst not supreme evil) to be worth? I guess the closest comparison would be the epic doubleX but that's not tradable obviously.

[Raliar]

What would you calculate my +2 Cosmic Hvy Rptr of Obscenity (old version with evil burst not supreme evil) to be worth? I guess the closest comparison would be the epic doubleX but that's not tradable obviously.

Compared these weapons to the drow kopesh is like comparing apples to oranges they're completely different. For one this has a neg level effect and you can't exclude its rarity. There is a particular market for these weapons and a certain group will pay a premium for them. I would put both are weapons at around 5,000-7,500 TP in value, yours on the higher side, but the sky is the limit. Also not sure how how my weapons damage was calced again:

6d6= avg per die=3*6=18
Crit 20% providing you have imp crit slashing 2d8+2d6=28/2=14*.20=2.8
18+2.8= 20.8 total damage extra on avg per swing + life stealing effect
This is solely the weapon no strength included

Funny enough, even though it is a decent bit your weapon only does 3.2 more damage per hit extra on average totaling up to 24. I feel like yours is a more desirable weapon but that might equal out with the enhancement change.

[Renvar]

Not any really good BtCoE crossbows to compare to. To find a comparison I'd look at Epic Doublecross and Needle.

I've not see a screenie of your xbow, but I'm assuming its:

Cosmic of Obscenity:
2[1d10] +2 = about 15 base damage rating

3d6 force damage for cosmic = 9.5 per hit average (hurts most everything)

2d6 neg energy per hit = 7 per hit average (undead and a few constructs can avoid)

3d6 evil damage to non-evils = 9.5 per hit average (only hits non-evils. This is the least useful of the damage group)

Life stealing = 2 negs per crit proc

Reliable damage: 15 + 9.5 + 7 = 31.5 ( 41 average on non-evils) plus the neg level drain.


Epic Double Cross:

Base: 16.70 ( 2d8+6 )

Poison: 1d6 = 3.5 per hit. (5.5 per crit average) (undead and constructs will not be affected)

Red slot: 1d10 = 5.5 per hit. (Assuming you slot something that does damage. Who knows)

Enervation (Basically equals life stealing, but proc rate is different)

Crippling/Armor Piercing/Nightshade venom - Hard to quantify. Basically increase crit chances.

Reliable Damage: 16.70 + 3.5 + 5.5 = 25.7 plus the extras. Now the extras are going to generate more crit chances at least 15 percent of the time - 10% on the armor, 5% on the venom (minimum when mob rolls a 1). with a x2 multiplier, you are looking at that adding an extra 4 per hit, depending on build/stats/bonuses. That puts you at 29.7. Against low fort save mobs it will be substantially higher.

The Epic Double-xbow does offer less incoming damage, though. But in terms of pure DPS, I'd say your bow has a slight edge here.


Upgraded Tier 4 Needle:

28.6 base damage. 2.5[1d12]+8 (goes from +7 to +8)

Phlembotizing: 3d8 bleed = 13.5 average per hit to livings (no undead, constructs. similar to the neg energy profile)

Red Slot: 1d10 of something = 5.5 average per hit.

Planar Conflux: Ignore. too build dependent.

x3 Crit multiplier: Depends on build, but should add an extra 8 damage per hit average against 0% fort mobs.

Total reliable damage: 34.1 vs everything, 47.6 against livings. (Not counting extra crits. That pumps it up to 42 and 56, respectively.)

Needle has a strong DPS edge over your weapon. But then, it took raid loot 25 commendations to get here.

Also, again neither of these other two options is tradeable. That crossbow is more valuable, just because there's not an easily farmable and BtCoE other option (like the Drow Khopesh) that is comparable. I'd say it's worth 5kTP, 8 million plat, or 1000-1200 shards. Ballpark.

*All numbers rough and rounded. There are more in-depth spreadsheet calc'ers that can factor in fort percentages, build/feat/class differences, etc. for a more specific analysis. I don't have the time or patience for that.

Suffice to say it's a very nice weapon.

[jakeelala]

Compared these weapons to the drow kopesh is like comparing apples to oranges they're completely different. For one this has a neg level effect and you can't exclude its rarity. There is a particular market for these weapons and a certain group will pay a premium for them. I would put both are weapons at around 5,000-7,500 TP in value, yours on the higher side, but the sky is the limit. Also not sure how how my weapons damage was calced again:

6d6= avg per die=3*6=18
Crit 20% providing you have imp crit slashing 2d8+2d6=28/2=14*.20=2.8
18+2.8= 20.8 total damage extra on avg per swing + life stealing effect
This is solely the weapon no strength included

Funny enough, even though it is a decent bit your weapon only does 3.2 more damage per hit extra on average totaling up to 24. I feel like yours is a more desirable weapon but that might equal out with the enhancement change.

You've got to pick something eventually to compare to get a bead on a price.

[jakeelala]

Not any really good BtCoE crossbows to compare to. To find a comparison I'd look at Epic Doublecross and Needle.
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I forgot to mention I icy bursted it too. Fair estimate.

[Raliar]

I haven't met my internal reserve for my sword if I don't get any more offers going to happily keep it and put it to good use. I would like at least two off the EE items on my list. Thank you.

[Raliar]

Going to leave this up for one more week, alot of interest has been shown but only one serious offer and I will keep the sword for the offer I recieved. The auction is still up, come on throw an offer at me...

[Machination]

I'll give you a bit more than the serious offer. And I'll throw some more in if need be.

Going to leave this up for one more week, alot of interest has been shown but only one serious offer and I will keep the sword for the offer I recieved. The auction is still up, come on throw an offer at me...

[Raliar]

Check my list and shoot me a pm =)

[Raliar]

Taking off auction tomorrow and going to icy burst this sword to use unless I get a substantial offer.