PSA - Astral Shards

[Renvar]

DDO Store pricing on Astral shards:

30 Shards - 195 TP ~ 6.5 TP per shard
100 Shards - 595 TP ~ 6 TP per shard
500 Shards - 2795 TP ~ 5.5 TP per Shard

Pretty commonly accepted terms:
2.5 Million Plat - 1,550 TP = 1,612 Plat per TP
4 Million Plat - 2,500 TP = 1,600 Plat per TP
8 Million Plat - 5,000 TP = 1,600 Plat per TP

Therefore:
1 Astral Shard = 9,600 Plat (Say 10k plat for ease of calculation)
100 Shards = 1 Million Plat
1,000 Shards = 10 Million Plat

Someone has posted EE Iron Beads on the new Shard for 500 bid /1000 buyout. That means: 5 Million bid/10 million plat buyout.

EH Items are out there for 800-900 Shards. (8-9 mill plat). You wouldn't get 2 million on the AH for these items.

Not trying to say people are trying to gouge or anything. Just think that people don't understand the value of the shards.

Feel free to discuss or disagree.

[Gkar]

As has been stated in another thread, its a combination of people seeing if they can find suckers combined with people putting stupid high prices up in the new storage bank slots....err.... AS AH slots I mean.

[maddmatt70]

I think it is cute that you think that plat will have much value for very much longer. Turbine will continue to devalue it as it continues to promote its new currency astral shards.

[taurean430]

DDO Store pricing on Astral shards:

30 Shards - 195 TP ~ 6.5 TP per shard
100 Shards - 595 TP ~ 6 TP per shard
500 Shards - 2795 TP ~ 5.5 TP per Shard

Pretty commonly accepted terms:
2.5 Million Plat - 1,550 TP = 1,612 Plat per TP
4 Million Plat - 2,500 TP = 1,600 Plat per TP
8 Million Plat - 5,000 TP = 1,600 Plat per TP

Therefore:
1 Astral Shard = 9,600 Plat (Say 10k plat for ease of calculation)
100 Shards = 1 Million Plat
1,000 Shards = 10 Million Plat

Someone has posted EE Iron Beads on the new Shard for 500 bid /1000 buyout. That means: 5 Million bid/10 million plat buyout.

EH Items are out there for 800-900 Shards. (8-9 mill plat). You wouldn't get 2 million on the AH for these items.

Not trying to say people are trying to gouge or anything. Just think that people don't understand the value of the shards.

Feel free to discuss or disagree.

+1 To you sir...

We, as a guild, were just doing some chuckling at initial pricings as well. Nice to see the conversion.

[SilkofDrasnia]

I think it is cute that you think that plat will have much value for very much longer. Turbine will continue to devalue it as it continues to promote its new currency astral shards.

Aye I don't like where Turbine is taking us on this front, hopefully I am wrong but seems like AS and tp codes is the only new currency that will have any value. Guess they took a look at companies like PWE etc and liked what they saw...

[Max_DDO]

Shoutout to Idiot who posted quiver EE for 500k

[Silverleafeon]

DDO Store pricing on Astral shards:

30 Shards - 195 TP ~ 6.5 TP per shard
100 Shards - 595 TP ~ 6 TP per shard
500 Shards - 2795 TP ~ 5.5 TP per Shard

Pretty commonly accepted terms:
2.5 Million Plat - 1,550 TP = 1,612 Plat per TP
4 Million Plat - 2,500 TP = 1,600 Plat per TP
8 Million Plat - 5,000 TP = 1,600 Plat per TP

Therefore:
1 Astral Shard = 9,600 Plat (Say 10k plat for ease of calculation)
100 Shards = 1 Million Plat
1,000 Shards = 10 Million Plat

Someone has posted EE Iron Beads on the new Shard for 500 bid /1000 buyout. That means: 5 Million bid/10 million plat buyout.

EH Items are out there for 800-900 Shards. (8-9 mill plat). You wouldn't get 2 million on the AH for these items.

Not trying to say people are trying to gouge or anything. Just think that people don't understand the value of the shards.

Feel free to discuss or disagree.

+1 and thank you


All my astral shards are going towards our guild airship.

Will spin the silver wheel once a day, and wander off.

Hoping to dump some bound to character due to deconstructing shields
with large guild slots on them, but not sure that is gonna be possible.

[NexEverto]

Awesome! I was going to type this up later today, but I'm glad you beat me to it. +1 for using the 'standardized' pricing too.

[Silverleafeon]

Sigh, was hoping to free up some bank space by dumping some nice stuff,
that I sort of don't need, but its bound to character on acquire.

So I cannot sell it.

That is a good thing, as I don't want to see raid loot for astral auctions.

Hmm...maybe I could squeeze a bit of storage space out of this.
Some less important bound on equip stuff could be thrown on there when I TR,
if it sells fine, if not this provides a bit of temporary bank relief.

[gerardIII]

As has been stated in another thread, its a combination of people seeing if they can find suckers combined with people putting stupid high prices up in the new storage bank slots....err.... AS AH slots I mean.

Isn't there like a posting fee in this new AH?

[Silverleafeon]

Fully refundable if the item does not sell.

I do hope that continues, but let the buyer beware!

[Machination]

this.

although as long as AS are not excgangeable betwwen players it will never become the preferred currency. If the do in fact want it to become defacto currency they will allow trade betwwen players using it. At present it is more like a banana republic currency due to the insane capital controls. why would anyone want to hoard AS today unless the probability is it will become exchangable between players.

I think it is cute that you think that plat will have much value for very much longer. Turbine will continue to devalue it as it continues to promote its new currency astral shards.

[Machination]

1. Like in any banana republic when the central bank decides to replace its currency with a new one, there is a lot of repricing in the market.

2. AS market is the easy button for that item that is not on the AH, or for those that don't have oodles of plat, or for those that don't want to go through the TPlat exchange process. One would expect premium pricing for that easy button.

3. The steep house cut on bound gear just adds to the inflation.

Now who is taking wagers and at what odds on when AS become exchangeable between players?

DDO Store pricing on Astral shards:

30 Shards - 195 TP ~ 6.5 TP per shard
100 Shards - 595 TP ~ 6 TP per shard
500 Shards - 2795 TP ~ 5.5 TP per Shard

Pretty commonly accepted terms:
2.5 Million Plat - 1,550 TP = 1,612 Plat per TP
4 Million Plat - 2,500 TP = 1,600 Plat per TP
8 Million Plat - 5,000 TP = 1,600 Plat per TP

Therefore:
1 Astral Shard = 9,600 Plat (Say 10k plat for ease of calculation)
100 Shards = 1 Million Plat
1,000 Shards = 10 Million Plat

Someone has posted EE Iron Beads on the new Shard for 500 bid /1000 buyout. That means: 5 Million bid/10 million plat buyout.

EH Items are out there for 800-900 Shards. (8-9 mill plat). You wouldn't get 2 million on the AH for these items.

Not trying to say people are trying to gouge or anything. Just think that people don't understand the value of the shards.

Feel free to discuss or disagree.

[Silverleafeon]

All I see is more TR cache emptying room, and a place to dump some stuff I no longer want.

[Machination]

There is presently a raid bypass timer at starting bid 50 AS with no buyout.

At current store prices that is 2.16X the price in AS as compared to buying the raid bypass timer direct in the DDO store...............lmao

[Silverleafeon]

Again, thanks for the heads up.

[Alternative]

Sigh, was hoping to free up some bank space by dumping some nice stuff,
that I sort of don't need, but its bound to character on acquire.

see if you have any friends that could use your bound stuff, post it for minimum buyout and let them know

[Silverleafeon]

nods sagely

It seems the various side door benefits of this shard thing are interesting.

[emptysands]

see if you have any friends that could use your bound stuff, post it for minimum buyout and let them know

If you have an alt, you can also shift items too them.

Since its only btcoe items, this is useful for i) respecs - change class/etc or ii) more like upgrades: use the EH Ghost Waking or Dream Visor now, once you get the EE version sell/transfer the EH one to one of your other toons.

Potentially via an alt, since I'm not sure if you can sell on one toon and buy on another from the same account.

[ThreeEyedBob]

Great post and pretty much what I had boiled it down to myself.

I have 2 items on the AE right now at 600/1000 (ins char +3 trinket BtC) and 700/1000 (White Helm +3 ins con not bound). I know its in the upper region of what to expect (hence the lower min bid) but for me its the AE cut that is the problem.

My playing has become more erratic lately so it was better to put them on the AE than to try and trade via the forum.

Turbine should allow trade of Seals/Shards on the AE to broaden the use of the shards.

EDIT: Just a little update, both my items now sits at 750 bid which means both items have actual bids on them for 750. So it would seem people are willing to pay. 1000 is probably a bit over the top, but it seems smart to set the min bid at half the buyout or thereabouts.