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    Community Member Shuricain's Avatar
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    Default Necro 4 / Black Abbot Sigil Flagging

    The random loot mechanic for obtaining Sigils in Necropolis 4 is upsetting and an obtuse time-sink within the game. So far, I've enjoyed that DDO hasen't required any mandatory grinding for plot advancement; until I ran this quest series. While grinding for gear/experience is acceptable, I find the requirement to obtain 7 random end-chest plot items to be excessive and take away from the gaming experience in DDO. Grinding should be used to reward players who want to put in the extra effort to enhance their characters, not to be punitively used to hinder deserved progression. In addition, this is not a F2P adventure pack making this time-sink grinding mechanism an ethical dilemma: it's not ethical to have some players move plot through luck and especially egregious in consideration for customers on time-based subscriptions.

    I implore you to address this issue in a future update for these types of quests as I speak for many customers who also feel equally upset about the implementation of using arduous end-chest random loot grinding to advance main quest plots.

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    Don't forget you gotta run litany 4 times to run abbot...

    Seems stupid, as you said, to have to repeat quests to advance the story. It seems awkward to see that the NPCs are even aware you can repeat quests, given that they normally give you end rewards for every quest repetition like they forgot you already solved their problem once.

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    3 full sigils left, and already used one this life

    i use to farm some necro4(or at least run em e/h/n) because they have quite good xp, don't see the sigil flagging a trouble

    but you're right, they removed the 9 relics recquirement and 3 dragons blooding, for GH sooooo logic tells us that they should do the same with necro4, do it so easy than a blind monkey would be able to solo and flag it, of course beat the quests and raid

    and then in 1 month complain about how easy is the game and already have all the "engame loot"

    i use everylife 1 sigil to farm litany, nothing more, but i don't bank or farm quests except SC, WK and litany so i don't squeeze GH quests(1 single run every diff, like necro 4), i think it's more a lvling trouble than a flagging trouble
    psykopeta is finally baconpletionist because there isn't anything to delay it more - thelanis, where the gimps claim to be pros and noobs claim to be pros, no newbies allowed(unless they claim to be pros), we have enough drama w/o them. PS: I post only in the latest thread shown in main page, in the weird case u want something from me, feel free to send pm

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    you know those pieces also drop from rare chests in the Orchard, optional quest chests and theres a chance of getting pieces that normally drop from other quests?

    getting sigil pieces is much easier than it used to be. normally i run those quests at least a few times each for xp and usually get a full sigil in that time. i don't see another change needed. i wouldn't be surprised if it did change to turning in Taps for sigil pieces.

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    I had atrocious luck with gathering sigil pieces. I had like 10 lower left pieces but couldn't pull an upper right to save my life.

    I made a post back when I was farming it, it gained little traction - I guess Necro 4 just isn't popular enough for people to care. Then you got the people that say "I didn't have a problem so there isn't one... "

    Anyhow, I think you should be able to turn in 3 Sigil pieces for the one you want and 5 Shield or Tome Pieces for the one you want.

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    Change the sigil into 4 pieces (one from each end chest) and destroying the crystals in Litany returns you to the cage with the dragon.

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    let's cruicible it
    PS: Greensteel RUINED the game! and you all know it!
    less buffing, more nerfing!!!
    to make it easier for those of you that wants to avoid me in game, all my characters are in "Bladesworn Mercenaries"

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuneyMunster View Post
    Change the sigil into 4 pieces (one from each end chest) and destroying the crystals in Litany returns you to the cage with the dragon.
    not bad not bad I'll /sign it

    Can we get some Necro love up in this joint ???!!!!!!

    I'm still playing old content... I still haven't done much of anything in FR....

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