U17.1 - Turn in Your Collectables Now

[Arnhelm]

For those who aren't aware of the changes coming this Monday, March 18:

From - http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=411111

"This information is taken from the latest Lammania version, on 3/7. Not content with having a good thing, Turbine decided to meddle with and completely ruin it.


HARBOR:

Goldscuttle
Potion of Aid - 30 Prayer Beads
Potion of Lesser Resotration - 30 Prayer Beads
Random Diamond Augment of +1 Ability - 30 Prayer Beads, 10 Wooden Idols, 5 Khyber Icons
Selectable Diamond Augment of +1 Ability - 4 Astral Shards

Wash Pynoptis
Potion of Jump (+20) - 30 Amber Vials
Potion Of Minor Petrify Runestone (Bugged) - 30 Amber Vials
Random ML:1 Sapphire Augment - 30 Amber Vials, 10 Vials of Pure Water, 5 Vials of Contagion
Selectable ML:1 Sapphire Augments - 4 Astral Shards

Giles Goodman
Potion Of Heroism (CL10) - 30 Pages Torn From a Research Notebook
Minor Stun Runestone - 30 Pages Torn From a Research Notebook
Random ML:1 Topaz Augment - 30 Pages Torn From A Research Notebook, 10 Khyber Prayer Pamphlets, 5 Tome: Prophecy of Khyber
Selectable ML:1 Topaz Augments - 4 Astral Shards

Celaeno Kelle
Minor Flash Runestone - 30 Sweet Whitecaps
Random ML:1 Ruby Augment - 30 Sweet Whitecaps, 10 Deadly Feverblanches, 5 Pale Creepers
Selectable ML:1 Ruby Augments - 4 Astral Shards

MARKETPLACE:

Clarice Roden
Cryptmoss Infusion (Bear's Endurance) - 30 Cryptmoss Larva
Random ML:4 Sapphire Augment - 30 Cryptmoss Larva, 10 Cryptmoss Worms, 5 Cryptmoss Queens
Selectable ML:4 Sapphire Augments - 8 Astral Shards

Yannick Drumdoom
100 +1 Arrows of Undead Bane - 10 Marks of the Keeper
100 +1 Bolts of Undead Bane - 10 Marks of the Keeper
Random ML:4 Ruby Augment - 30 Funerary Tokens, 10 Marks of the Keeper, 5 Necrotic Gems
Selectable ML:4 Ruby Augments - 8 Astral Shards

Rudolph Rightman
Potion of Haste (CL:10) - 10 Research Diaries
Random ML:4 Diamond Augment - 30 Caravan Logbooks, 10 Research Diaries, 5 Tome: Myths of Old Xen'Drik
Selectable ML:4 Diamond Augment - 8 Astral Shards

Peta Flashpin
Potion of Barkskin +4 - 10 Sparkling Dusts
Random ML:4 Topaz Augment - 30 Glittering Dusts, 10 Sparkling Dusts, 5 Luminescent Dusts
Selectable ML:4 Topaz Augment - 8 Astral Shards

Davyd Turner
100 +1 Arrows of Goblinoid Bane - 10 Signets of the Devourer
100 +1 Bolts of Goblinoid Bane - 10 Signets of the Devourer
Random ML:4 Ruby Augment - 30 Blades of the Dark Six, 10 Signets of the Devourer, 5 Shamanic Totem
Selectable ML:4 Ruby Augment - 8 Astral Shards

Xovun Chalk
Potion of Lesser Restoration - 30 Skull Fragments
Potion of Heroism (CL:15) - 10 Powdered Blood
Random ML:4 Diamond Augment - 30 Skull Fragments, 10 Powdered Blood, 5 Intact Fingerbones
Selectable ML:4 Diamond Augment - 8 Astral Shards

Kipling Vranch
Potion of Shield Of Faith +4 - 10 Wavecrasher Cargo Manifests
Random ML:4 Topaz Augment - 30 Phoenix Tavern Purchase Orders, 10 Wavecrasher Cargo Manifests, 5 Tome: Stormreach Imports and Exports 857 YK
Selectable ML:4 Topaz Augment - 8 Astral Shards

Loura Jotun
Potion of Aid - 30 Withered Cryptmoss
Cryptmoss Silk Suture (Cure Moderate Wounds) - 10 Cryptmoss
Random ML:4 Sapphire Augment - 30 Withered Cryptmoss, 10 Cryptmoss, 5 Lush Cryptmoss
Selectable ML:4 Sapphire Augment - 8 Astral Shards

RED FENS:

Dagni d'Kundarak
Elixir of Moderate Healing - 30 Verdant Swamp Pearls
Elixir of Improved Healing (bugged, shows a runestone) - 10 Rosy Swamp Pearls
Token of Vulkoor - 5 Golden Swamp Pearls

HOUSE KUNDARAK:

Husk
Potion Of Resist Fire 30 (ML:10) - 30 Ceramic Bowls
Random ML:8 Diamond Augment - 30 Ceramic Bowls, 10 Glass Phials, 5 Crystal Decanters
Selectable ML:8 Diamond Augment - 12 Astral Shards

Leif Lightman
Potion of Resist Acid 30 (ML:10) - 30 Cryptic Messages
Random ML:8 Ruby Augment - 30 Cryptic Messages, 10 Scholarly Notes, 5 Tome: Codes of the Aurumn
Selectable ML:8 Ruby Augment - 12 Astral Shards

Chor Blasthorn
Random ML:8 Topaz Augment - 30 Romantic Sonnets, 10 Silver Flame Hymnals, 5 Tome: Lost Songs of Cyre
Selectable ML:8 Topaz Augment - 12 Astral Shards

HOUSE JORASCO

Mantakhan
Arrowmint Leaves (Eagle's Splendor) - 10 Headsman Beetles
Random ML:8 Topaz Augment - 30 Duskbrood Trumpeters, 10 Headsman Beetles, 5 Executioner Beetles
Selectable ML:8 Topaz Augment - 12 Astral Shards

Farrik Foe Cleaver
Spicy Fungal Gumbo (Bull's Strength) - 10 Fragrant Drowshoods (Yes, 400,000pp worth of collectables for 1 bull's strength potion)
Random ML:8 Diamond Augment - 30 Sour Darkcap, 10 Fragrant Drowshoods, 5 Flowering Hellscap
Selectable ML:8 Diamond Augment - 12 Astral Shards

Verisgante - Still no option to talk to the undead trader when speaking to him in Pale Master form.
Potion of Resist Electricity 30 (ML:10) - 30 Amulets of the Lost Empire
Potion of Greater Heroism (ML:1, CL:10) - 10 Amulets of the Six
Random ML:8 Sapphire Augment - 30 Amulets of the Lost Empire, 10 Amulets of the Six, 5 Amulets of the Archbishop
Selectable ML:8 Sapphire Augment - 12 Astral Shards

HOUSE DENIETH

Magda Yarrowmill
Potion of Reason/Knowledge +1 (+1 Alchemical Wis/Int) - 30 Mystical Formulae
Potion of Reason/Knowledge +2 (+2 Alchemical Wis/Int) - 10 Academic Treatises
Potion of Reason/Knowledge +3 (+3 Alchemical Wis/Int) - 5 Tome: Alchemist's Chapbook
Potion of Owl's Skill/Fox's Skill +1 (+1 Alchemical Wis/Int Skills) - 30 Mystical Formulae
Potion of Owl's Skill/Fox's Skill +2 (+2 Alchemical Wis/Int Skills) - 10 Academic Treatises
Potion of Owl's Skill/Fox's Skill +3 (+3 Alchemical Wis/Int Skills) - 5 Tome: Alchemist's Chapbook

Maxon the Dreamwalker
Potion of Influence +1 (+1 Alchemical Charisma) - 30 Blessed Candles
Potion of Influence +2 (+2 Alchemical Charisma) - 10 Silver Bowls
Potion of Influence +3 (+3 Alchemical Charisma) - 5 Ritual Athames
Potion of Eagle's Skill +1 (+1 Alchemical Cha Skills) - 30 Blessed Candles
Potion of Eagle's Skill +2 (+2 Alchemical Cha Skills) - 10 Silver Bowls
Potion of Eagle's SKill +3 (+3 Alchemical Cha Skills) - 5 Ritual Athames

Tarbox
Potion of Grace +1 (+1 Alchemical Dexterity) - 30 Ruddy Fungi
Potion of Grace +2 (+2 Alchemical Dexterity) - 10 Bloodfeast Fungi
Potion of Grace +3 (+3 Alchemical Dexterity) - 5 Sanguine Moth
Potion of Cat's Skill +1 (+1 Alchemical Dex Skills) - 30 Ruddy Fungi
Potion of Cat's Skill +2 (+2 Alchemical Dex Skills) - 10 Bloodfeast Fungi
Potion of Cat's Skill +3 (+3 Alchemical Dex Skills) - 5 Sanguine Moth

Zolar Dexxian
Potion of Prowess/Health +1 (+1 Alchemical Str/Con) - 30 Chipped Bone Talismans
Potion of Prowess/Health +2 (+2 Alchemical Str/Con) - 10 Ivory Scorpion Icons
Potion of Prowess/Health +3 (+3 Alchemical Str/Con) - 5 Tear of Vulkoor
Potion of Bull's Skill +1 (+1 Alchemical Str Skills) - 30 Chipped Bone Talismans
Potion of Bull's Skill +2 (+2 Alchemical Str Skills) - 10 Ivory Scorpion Icons
Potion of Bull's Skill +3 (+3 Alchemical Str Skills) - 5 Tear of Vulkoor

Flintchip Fireson
100 +1 Arrows of Elemental Bane - 10 Polished Ores
100 +1 Bolts of Elemental Bane - 10 Polished Ores
Random ML:8 Ruby Augment - 30 Smoldering Embers, 10 Polished Ores, 5 Elemental Ingots
Selectable ML:8 Ruby Augment - 12 Astral Shards

Tara Wightraven
100 +1 Arrows of Evil Outsider Bane - 10 Planar Spoor
100 +1 Bolts of Evil Outsider Bane - 10 Planar Spoor
Random ML:8 Diamond Augment - 30 Small Planar Crystals, 10 Planar Spoor, 5 Planar Talismans
Selectable ML:8 Diamond Augment - 12 Astral Shards

Chirugeon Laj'Amal
Elixir of Moderate Healing - 30 Bruised Spore Pods
Spore Sap (Cure Serious Wounds) - 10 Intact Spore Pods
Random ML:8 Sapphire Augment - 30 Bruised Spore Pods, 10 Intact Spore Pods, 5 Flowering Spore Pods
Selectable ML:8 Sapphire Augment - 12 Astral Shards

HOUSE PHIARLAN

Kayla Skywhisper
Potion of Resist Cold 30 (ML:10) - 30 Lodestones
Potion of Fire Shield (Cool) (ML:1, CL:20) - 10 Moonstones
Random ML:8 Diamond Augment - 30 Lodestones, 10 Moonstones, 5 Stellar Orbs
Selectable ML:8 Diamond Augment - 12 Astral Shards

Bowdlin
Potion of Resist Fire 30 (ML:10) - 30 Singed Soarwood
Potion of Fire Shield (Warm) (ML:1 CL:20) - 10 Charred Soarwood
Random ML:8 Ruby Augment - 30 Singed Soarwood, 10 Charred Soarwood, 5 Lightning-Split Soarwood
Selectable ML:8 Ruby Augment -12 Astral Shards

Demordis Meele
Lily Extract (Cure Moderate Wounds - 30 Lily Petals
Woodblossom Mead (Remove Blindness) - 10 Woodblossom Nectars
Crimson Nightshade Infusion (Remove Curse) - 5 Crimson Nightshade

Seld the Gray Sister
Potion of Resist Sonic 30 (ML:10) - 30 Runic Parchments
Random ML:8 Sapphire Augment - 30 Runic Parchments, 10 House-Sealed Letters, 5 Tome: History of the Houses
Selectable ML:8 Sapphire Augment - 12 Astral Shards

THE NECROPOLIS

Mikela Ravenspear
Potion of Lesser Restoration - 30 Vol Prayer Charms
Potion of Shield of Faith +5 - 10 Marks of Favor
Potion of Death Ward (ML:1 CL:20) - 5 Abbott's Rings

Ninevah Shadowsbough
Elixir of Moderate Healing - 30 Vol Prayer Charms
Lesser Petrify Runestone - 10 Marks of Favor
Potion of Restoration - 5 Abbott's Rings

LORDSMARCH PLAZA

Mela Thryn
Offensive Potion of Wonder - 30 Ritual Candles
Defensive Potion of Wonder - 10 Vials of Heavy Water
Potion of Wonder - 5 Oceanic Spheres

Gudby Sorrel
Elixir of Improved Healing (BUGGED: Shows Lesser Petrify Runestone) - 30 Swaying Mushroom Clusters
Elixir of Greater Healing (BUGGED: Shows Greater Petrify Runestone)- 10 Swaying Mushroom Spore Pods
Treasure! (Description reads: Gudby will reward you with an assortment of treasure! The treasure received will be similar to what can be found in a chest in a level 12 quest) - 5 Glowmoss Clump"

[Archangel666]

Yup.

I ignored the Collectible turn-ins before and saved them for crafting.

Guess what I'll be doing now?

Ignoring the Collectible turn-ins and saving them for crafting.

[Violith]

there was a dev response after that that said they are reviewing the feedback and will look into it

most likely it wont be back to hwo it was before, but it should be lower then its current form.

[Bilger]

Yup.

I ignored the Collectible turn-ins before and saved them for crafting.

Guess what I'll be doing now?

Ignoring the Collectible turn-ins and saving them for crafting.

You went one step farther than me I just ignore the collectables!!

Never been a big crafter in this game don't like the system much.

[MindCake]

Anyone got a comprehensive list of collectibles that:
- are not used for crafting
- have some reasonable rewards now
- won't have reasonable rewards after the change

[Ghoulstorm]

Yup.

I ignored the Collectible turn-ins before and saved them for crafting.

Guess what I'll be doing now?

Ignoring the Collectible turn-ins and saving them for crafting.

Ninja'd
Not really sure how someone could think that taking something most people don't use because it's not worth the effort as is and increasing the cost by as much as a factor of 10 could possibly be a good idea.

[bartharok]

Anyone got a comprehensive list of collectibles that:
- are not used for crafting
- have some reasonable rewards now
- won't have reasonable rewards after the change

I think this is the list:






Youre welcome

[Lyria]

30/10/5? Holy spit.

[Vellrad]

Whats the difference between reward not worth of taking and reward not worth of taking?

Nothing really changes here.

[Chai]

A dumptruck full of prayer beads for an aid potion?

Sell the first lacerating weapon you loot and buy tens of thousands of aid potions if you want.

[Scraap]

Whats the difference between reward not worth of taking and reward not worth of taking?

Wasted man hours, and wasted opportunities.

[Bolo_Grubb]

I only grab some collectibles in hopes of getting

Vials of Pure Water
Strings of Prayer Beads
Tome: Prophecies of Khyber
Silver Flame Hymnals
Luminescent Dust
Fragrant Drowshood
Sparkling Dust
Deadly Feverblanch
Lightning-split Soarwood
Funerary Tokens

And I try to collect all of those from all my toons and place them in one bag, so when I want to add one of these rituals to an item it is easy.

[danotmano1998]

A dumptruck full of prayer beads for an aid potion?

Sell the first lacerating weapon you loot and buy tens of thousands of aid potions if you want.

Gotta agree here.

Just because they are "looking into it" and "appreciate our feedback" doesn't mean anything other than they know the players think this change is absurd.

When put into a perspective like this, it's glaringly obvious that someone in Turbine didn't think about these things very diligently, if at all.

[Chai]

Whats the difference between reward not worth of taking and reward not worth of taking?

Nothing really changes here.

People have been losing epic and destiny XP for 7 months now when LR or TRing, and up until recently the standard response was "we cant reproduce the issue" (yes im aware of the work around where they are reimbursing the XP, but this stil isnt a fix or even a reproduction of the issue).

Meanwhile in other news, time gets allocated to putting together an entirely new collectible turn in system where people can pour cement trucks full of prayer beads into it for one lesser restoration potion.

Its not about what changes, its about whats more important.

[RobbinB]

Whats the difference between reward not worth of taking and reward not worth of taking?

Nothing really changes here.

The hours of development time wasted?

Like sometimes when people have an idea on the "suggestions" forum, the majority response is "hey, that's not a bad idea, I wouldn't mind seeing that. But I'm not sure it's critical. Probably not worth the development time that could be used somewhere else."

Somewhere else like updating the collectable turn-in system from useless to just as useless.

[Bilger]

People have been losing epic and destiny XP for 7 months now when LR or TRing, and up until recently the standard response was "we cant reproduce the issue" (yes im aware of the work around where they are reimbursing the XP, but this stil isnt a fix or even a reproduction of the issue).

Meanwhile in other news, time gets allocated to putting together an entirely new collectible turn in system where people can pour cement trucks full of prayer beads into it for one lesser restoration potion.

Its not about what changes, its about whats more important.

Exactly, I agree, time could of been better spent on other areas.

[Memnir]

This really is one of the most asinine things that the Devs have ever done. It's almost comical, if it only weren't so sad to see.


And people sometimes wonder why I say there is a disconnect between the Devs and the Players...

[lostgunman]

I really think it was handed over to the programmers...but I think they took it this way:

"They WHAT! I spent 4 HOURS working on this new system! If the players think I will waste MORE time making it USABLE they are sorely mistaken! I don't care if 100% of the feedback was bad! I WANT it this way and they are GETTING it this way!"

Yep..I was there...it went down like that

[Yalina]

Wasted man hours, and wasted opportunities.

True! Everything is so fine, so smooth in the game, really, only we needed just some changes in collectibles!!

[adam1oftheround]

Why fix stuff when there is stuff you could nerf?

In case you do not have time to address problems your customers are asking to get fixed, just use your time to take something that is a very minimal benefit to those costomers and make it worse.

This way the naughty customers who whine so loudly will either feel punished for griefing you and stop fussing or they will just go away.

Is this the business model we are using for the game?