Focused Melee Discussion *As Of U17*

[Ellihor]

• Helm: Helm of the Black Dragon (Insightful Str +3)
• Necklace: Pendant of the Stormreaver
• Bauble: Planar Focus of Prowess (+8 Str)
• Cloak: Min 2 Green Steel
• Belt: Colethenis's Belt
• Ring 1: Ring of the Ravager (Healing amp 20%)
• Ring 2: Seal of House Avithoul (Wisdom +7)
• Gloves: Nether Graps
• Boots: Treads of Falling Shadow
• Bracers: Bracers of Twisting Shade
• Armor: Flawless Black Dragonscale Robe
• Goggles: Dream Visor

No need for further comments. I have built the best Gear layout imaginable. You're welcome.

No stunning/exceptional combat mastery isnt acceptable on EE
Edit: you also need some dodge gear

[Atremus]

We're are you guys putting seeker?

Currently redoing my Monk to try and fit the Dream Visor in. When I do that, I lose the 6 seeker off of the Drow Smoke goggles. Can we still put seeker on a CC hat?

[Matuse]

The gear layout isn't limiting me on how I play the game.

No, what is limiting you on how you play the game is that you DON'T play the game.

[Munkenmo]

Anyway My gearset on my barb and kensai is virtually still the same as pre motu, the new loot isn't worth a complete overhaul to me.

Barb
Epic Mari chain (toughness)
Esos
Storm Reaver Necklace (fire resist)
Knosts belt
Encrusted ring (20 h.amp)
Stalker ring (+2 str and Sonic resist)
Claw gloves
Claw Bracers
Envenomed Cloak (14prr)
Corrosion Boots (Mobility and +7dex)
Helm of Frost (Imperial Blood)
Dreamvisor (deathblock)
Litany


Fighter
Epic Mari chain (toughness)
Air,air, water khopesh (1d12 elec)
drow combat mastery khopesh.
Storm Reaver Necklace (fire resist)
Colenthesis belt
Ravager ring (20 h.amp)
Stalker ring (+2 str and Sonic resist)
Claw gloves
Claw Bracers
Envenomed Cloak (14prr)
Corrosion Boots (Mobility and +7dex)
Helm of Frost (Imperial Blood)
Dreamvisor (Deathblock)
Litany

[squishwizzy]

Dumb question here, but what about an epic Marbar cloak with a GS smoke item?

I'm in "leveling main wizzy mode" so I haven't been running my melees much, and I'm not sure how prevalent TS is nowadays.


Edit: I'd think that the two "to-hit" rolls and deathblock would count for something. Just wondering how much.

[squishwizzy]

We're are you guys putting seeker?

Currently redoing my Monk to try and fit the Dream Visor in. When I do that, I lose the 6 seeker off of the Drow Smoke goggles. Can we still put seeker on a CC hat?

Don't they have augment crystals now with +6 seeker?

[Ellihor]

We're are you guys putting seeker?

Currently redoing my Monk to try and fit the Dream Visor in. When I do that, I lose the 6 seeker off of the Drow Smoke goggles. Can we still put seeker on a CC hat?

Since claw dont stack with planar conflux, get a nether grasps and 30% amp bracers, with superior parrying if you can.

[Dieterstrife]

No, what is limiting you on how you play the game is that you DON'T play the game.

No ****, I love you.

[BigSlugger]

Don't they have augment crystals now with +6 seeker?

No seeker crystals.

[DanteEnFuego]

I have an ex girlfriend who hasn't even seen me in years who still thinks she completely understands me and wants to tell me what to do... Apparently humility was a dump stat for her too... She is the mostest awesomest ever too.

[smithj_2020]

My current setup:

Head: Black Dragon Helm- +3 insight str
Body: Black dragon Armor
Gloves: epic gloves of the claw
Goggles: EH dream Visor- +7 wisdom
Bracers: manacles of ceaseless Toil
Trinket: epic gem of many facets- gives claw bonus
Ring 1: encrusted ring- 20% heal amp
Ring 2: +2 insightful con don'robar, +10 stunning
Belt: Knosts
Necklace: EH jorgundals collar- +1 exceptional str
Boots: Madstone currently still (what should go here)
Weapon: ESoS
Cloak: GS +45 triple air

Should prolly so something different on bracers as well but what I got currently.

[Blank_Zero]

Big update to the OP. Bumping for looks.

[goodspeed]

We're are you guys putting seeker?

Currently redoing my Monk to try and fit the Dream Visor in. When I do that, I lose the 6 seeker off of the Drow Smoke goggles. Can we still put seeker on a CC hat?

Well you could slap it on some alchys. Or yes you can also get seeker 6 and a skill on a cove hat. Then theirs the bear cloak, and the bracers of twist. Oh and I think the ring of the stalker has seeker 6 as well.

It's a tough choice with rings through because monks have the ability to use so much. The bursts from TOD, the improved deception as well as +5 and exception +3 SA from the avi seal, stalker, robar's +10 seal.

Also im not sure what stacks now though. Is the claw set considered a competence or is it something else? Wiki doesn't really seem to list them.

[Dieterstrife]

Claw set doesn't stack with the Prowess set bonus anymore. This caused a lot of anger and resentment on the Lamania forums. Most of the people complaining though were the ones who said they CITW weapons were all terrible and anyone who uses them is a total gimp.

For the monk setup though, EE backstabbers gloves with dual tod burst rings might not actually be all that bad. Don't get as much from seeker with just a x2 19-20 on fists, so bracers of twisting shade would be more than plenty. Big benefit here is theyre just the glove version of the Avi ring.

[Cetus]

Cetus's Set - Pure 20 Kensei DPS Fighter

Helm: EH or EE Black Dragon Helm - Green Slot: False Life +35, Colorless: Charisma +7
Necklace: Verik's Necklace for starting 2 boosts - Swap to MinII HP necklace
Trinket: Planar Focus of Prowess: Insightful +3 Strength
Cloak: Adamantine Cloak of the Wolf
Belt: Epic Spare Hand - Blue Slot: Good Luck +2, Colorless: Globe of Imperial Blood
Ring #1: Wisdom +7 Seal of House Avithoul
Ring #2: Insightful +2 Con Stunning +10 Ring of Dun' Robar, Swap to EE Ring of the Djinn for defense against unstunnable bosses.
Gloves: EE Nether Grasps
Boots: EE Spiked Boots - Green Slot: Physical Resistance +14, Yellow Slot: Dexterity +7
Bracers: Strength +8 Bracers of Superior Parrying with Medium Guild slot: +15 Guild Hp
Armor: Fully Upgraded Blackplate - Blue slot: Resistance +7
Goggles: EE Dream Visor - Yellow Slot: Insightful Dex +2
Quiver: EE Quiver of Poison

Zone into Quest: Verik's Necklace, MinII Goggles, EE treads

Use 2 boosts: Swap Dream Visor, MinII Necklace, Spiked Boots

[Blank_Zero]

Cetus's Set - Pure 20 Kensei DPS Fighter

Helm: EH or EE Black Dragon Helm - Green Slot: False Life +35, Colorless: Charisma +7
Necklace: Verik's Necklace for starting 2 boosts - Swap to MinII HP necklace
Trinket: Planar Focus of Prowess: Insightful +3 Strength
Cloak: Adamantine Cloak of the Wolf
Belt: Epic Spare Hand - Blue Slot: Good Luck +2, Colorless: Globe of Imperial Blood
Ring #1: Wisdom +7 Seal of House Avithoul
Ring #2: Insightful +2 Con Stunning +10 Ring of Dun' Robar, Swap to EE Ring of the Djinn for defense against unstunnable bosses.
Gloves: EE Nether Grasps
Boots: EE Spiked Boots - Green Slot: Physical Resistance +14, Yellow Slot: Dexterity +7
Bracers: Strength +8 Bracers of Superior Parrying with Medium Guild slot: +15 Guild Hp
Armor: Fully Upgraded Blackplate - Blue slot: Resistance +7
Goggles: EE Dream Visor - Yellow Slot: Insightful Dex +2
Quiver: EE Quiver of Poison

Zone into Quest: Verik's Necklace, MinII Goggles, EE treads

Use 2 boosts: Swap Dream Visor, MinII Necklace, Spiked Boots

I actually quite like this setup, although why those bracers when you can get a +8 str helm? Why not 30% heal amp of superior parrying? Or is it just what you have vs what you want?

[CoasterHops]

Smallmans Syndrome on Khyber: WF Melee (go figure) 12MNK/7FIGHT/1ROG. Current Set up (dont remember all the epic slots that are filled):

Current Set:
Helm: PDK Helm
Necklace: Kyoshos
Cloak: Greensteel HP Cloak - EE Ghost waking is my want here.
Ring1: Stun10 Dunrobar
Ring2:Kyoshos slotted with Holyburst
Belt: Epic Sparehand
Gloves:PDK gloves
Goggles: Epic Time Sensing Goggles (Cha 6 and excep Cha 1 slotted) (haste) - EE Dream visor is wish for swap
Boots: Epic Corrosion, Heavy Fort Slotted (Use retreat wands so striding not a must)
Bracers: Epic Jidz, Dex 6 slotted
Armor: Stone Heart (upgraded to set bonus)
Wraps: EE Ivywraps (main weap), Grave Wrappings, Mabar Wraps, other crafted metal type wraps of various flavors.

Got alot of swap out Docents: Old school epic Red Dragon, Stone Heart (upgraded to Sun Souls set and bracers/belt to match), Epic Blademarks, Epic Templars Docent, Docent of Defiance, Heal Amp Dragontouched.

Even though WF melee has surpising survivability and is never a drain on resources, decent amp when running fire stance with Jidz though typically run in earth (increased die step) and use alot of shadow fade. Its probably one of the most viable WF melee builds outside of a Juggernaut type.
Heal/recon capable no fail UMD, typically use shield/retreat wands, refresh when time runs out.

As noted there is two things that are wanted: EE Dream Visor and EE Ghost Waking Cloak. If I get them these will become permanent with the Epic Time Senses as swap just for hastes (atm my cha item but Ghost Waking Cloak will fill this void.)

[Blank_Zero]

Smallmans Syndrome on Khyber: WF Melee (go figure) 12MNK/7FIGHT/1ROG. Current Set up (dont remember all the epic slots that are filled):

Current Set:
Helm: PDK Helm
Necklace: Kyoshos
Cloak: Greensteel HP Cloak - EE Ghost waking is my want here.
Ring1: Stun10 Dunrobar
Ring2:Kyoshos slotted with Holyburst
Belt: Epic Sparehand
Gloves:PDK gloves
Goggles: Epic Time Sensing Goggles (Cha 6 and excep Cha 1 slotted) (haste) - EE Dream visor is wish for swap
Boots: Epic Corrosion, Heavy Fort Slotted (Use retreat wands so striding not a must)
Bracers: Epic Jidz, Dex 6 slotted
Armor: Stone Heart (upgraded to set bonus)
Wraps: EE Ivywraps (main weap), Grave Wrappings, Mabar Wraps, other crafted metal type wraps of various flavors.

Got alot of swap out Docents: Old school epic Red Dragon, Stone Heart (upgraded to Sun Souls set and bracers/belt to match), Epic Blademarks, Epic Templars Docent, Docent of Defiance, Heal Amp Dragontouched.

Even though WF melee has surpising survivability and is never a drain on resources, decent amp when running fire stance with Jidz though typically run in earth (increased die step) and use alot of shadow fade. Its probably one of the most viable WF melee builds outside of a Juggernaut type.
Heal/recon capable no fail UMD, typically use shield/retreat wands, refresh when time runs out.

As noted there is two things that are wanted: EE Dream Visor and EE Ghost Waking Cloak. If I get them these will become permanent with the Epic Time Senses as swap just for hastes (atm my cha item but Ghost Waking Cloak will fill this void.)

You should look into EH versions of those too til you can snag an EE. They rock even at regular Epic level.

[WruntJunior]

You should look into EH versions of those too til you can snag an EE. They rock even at regular Epic level.

Most items on EH only differ from their EE version by slots, in fact. >_> Makes item decisions much easier in the short-term if you don't need everything EE (and can thus quickly ransack chests on EH).

[Blank_Zero]

Most items on EH only differ from their EE version by slots, in fact. >_> Makes item decisions much easier in the short-term if you don't need everything EE (and can thus quickly ransack chests on EH).

Yup. I snagged a EN Dream Visor from my first Tor completion. If I get another great! But now it isn't a priority as I already have what I want off if it.