Focused Melee Discussion *As Of U17*

[Blank_Zero]

Beet you to it last night

-Isko

You punk! How the hell have you been?!

Please tell me you're still running that Abomination of a BattleCleric?!

If you are, please give me a set?

[Cetus]

Can't do that right now. Transfers are so weird right now.

If I could get like 500k plat together, I'd just get one off the AH :P
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So I went ahead and looked through the gearsets and I think I came up with one that covers all the bases:

Head - EH Black Dragon Helm (+8/+3 Exceptional Str) (GFL +35, Charisma +7)
Eyes - EE Dream Visor (30% Striding)
Neck - EE Jorgundal's Collar (+7 Resistance, +7 Constitution)
Cloak - Adamantine cloak of the Wolf
Bracers - 20/30% Heal Amp of Superior Parrying
Gloves - EE Nether Grasps
Ring 1 - Seal of House Dun Robar (+2 Con, Stunning +10)
Ring 2 - Seal of House Avithoul (+7 Wisdom)
Belt - Tier 3 Epic Spare Hand (Good Luck, Globe of Imperial Blood)
Boots - EE Spike Boots (=14 PPR, Deathblock)
Trinket - Planar Focus of Prowess (+8/+3 Exceptional Str)

Armor - Black Dragon Armor (Heavy Fortification)
Quiver - EE/EH Quiver of Poison

Weapons - 2 x Nightmare (Good Damage, Good Damage), Pinion (Good Damage)
+5 Holy Burst of Greater X Bane Khopesh

Let me know what you all think? I'll update the OP with this set too.

Three comments:

1. The slotted 30% striding on visors and jorg collar is redundant.

2. No hp item (on which I placed heavy fort) - if you're ok without the 45 hp then the setup looks good.

3. I don't see any dex gear, would capitalize well on it with the superior parrying bracers as far as reflex goes.

Otherwise, looks pretty good.

[Blank_Zero]

Three comments:

1. The slotted 30% striding on visors and jorg collar is redundant.

2. No hp item (on which I placed heavy fort) - if you're ok without the 45 hp then the setup looks good.

3. I don't see any dex gear, would capitalize well on it with the superior parrying bracers as far as reflex goes.

Otherwise, looks pretty good.

DOH! I just saw that redundancy! thanks for pointing it out to me!

I'll move Deathblock to the Visor then. Now if I just had a spare Blue/Green slot, I could drop Spiked boots and grab EE Treads for that sexy +11 Dex.

I regularly run without any sort of HP Item now to be honest. I don't think I've ever been in a situation where the 45 HP would have helped much. I usually end up at -200 or so anyhow when I do die.

I think I could probably drop the +2 Good Luck on the belt for the 14 PPR and then drop the Spiked Boots, as I can regularly buff myself to get extra UMD, and with the next XPac going to level 28, it will most likely become irrelevant.

I'll make the changes above to my listing.

[wtorchia]

You punk! How the hell have you been?!

Please tell me you're still running that Abomination of a BattleCleric?!

If you are, please give me a set?

You may call him an abomination, I call him my main . And I am using the dam bracers. They fit my build perfectly. IF they only had a slot ...

[Blank_Zero]

You may call him an abomination, I call him my main . And I am using the dam bracers. They fit my build perfectly. IF they only had a slot ...

Well then shoot me a tell if you see me on Smrti and we will catch up.

Now post your gearset!

[Blank_Zero]

In order to spark a bit of discussion around here, and not just having people post gearsets (which I still welcome and want, but the discussion is absent), I'm going to give a few topics to get the ball rolling. They will be added to the OP as well once we get some responses.

1. What kind of weapons are you using? THF is looking like a toss up between Cleaver/ESoS/Sireth, while TWF seems to be going either Dual Nightmares, Dual Balizardes, Drow Khopesh, etc. What other weapons do you guys see, use, or think about using?

I for one am considering Heavy Picks for use during Fury and for the added boosts against Helpless mobs, and I've heard some chatter regarding the Axe of Adaxus with its x9 Crit potential.

2. Tactics! What still works? What doesn't work? How high are you getting your DCs? I've heard a 60+ Stunning Fist is just barely cutting it in EE, how about Trip? Tendon Slice? Greater Stone Prison? Let us know what and why?

3. Destinies! What is your main Destiny? What Twists do you run regularly and what have you tried out in the past?


I think that's enough for now. Thanks for the contributions folks! Lets keep it going!

[Dieterstrife]

As far as destinies: I'm kind of holed up in Dreadnought atm, my main is going to be a blitzer and my actual Kensai I'm going to tr into a Hunter, means I'm going to lose haste boost and I'll be damned if I want to lose that when I'm dual wielding. Debating on just twisting haste and sense weakness into Primal, but the lack of the tactics boost and fort boost from sentinel is making it really really difficult to decide on anything besides dread.

Honestly, I'm starting to get ****ed at it >.< We need the cleric WIS destiny in there to give me enough points for that final twist. Which still leaves me without being able to twist endless lay on hands. I'm so screwed...

[wtorchia]

Well then shoot me a tell if you see me on Smrti and we will catch up.

Now post your gearset!

I will look for you.

As for gear, keep in mind this is for a BC.

Current:
Head: PDK
Armor: PDK
Gloves: PDK
Ring 1: 114 devotion
Ring 2: Seal of house Sznid
Belt: GS HP smoke
Boots: Treads of Falling Shadow
Cloak: Iron cloak of the wolf
Goggles: GS SP Con op
Neck: torc
Bracers:
Trinket: Symbol of Lolth
Wep: Cleave

Goal:
Head: Black dragon (TBD)
Armor: Black dragon (TBD)
Gloves: PDK
Ring 1: 114 devotion
Ring 2: Ring of the Stalker (TBD)
Belt: GS HP smoke
Boots: No idea
Cloak: Admant cloak of the wolf
Goggles: GS SP Con op
Neck: Jorga? (TBD)
Trinket: Planar (Prob + 3 con)
Bracers:
Wep: Cleave

From augments I will need:
15 PRR
200 SP
35 HP
Heavy fort
+7 con
+2 ex st
+1 ex all
Toughness (some day)

I may do the new madstone for boots no idea really. Just need to do a bunch of grinding and I will be set.

[HalfORCastrator]

I will look for you.

As for gear, keep in mind this is for a BC.

Goal:
Head: Black dragon (TBD)
Armor: Black dragon (TBD)
Gloves: PDK
Ring 1: 114 devotion
Ring 2: Ring of the Stalker (TBD)
Belt: GS HP smoke
Boots: No idea
Cloak: Admant cloak of the wolf
Goggles: GS SP Con op
Neck: Jorga? (TBD)
Trinket: Planar (Prob + 3 con)
Bracers:
Wep: Cleave



I may do the new madstone for boots no idea really. Just need to do a bunch of grinding and I will be set.

Can put devotion in the new upgradable-to-red slot on Cleaver(assuming you don't care for good dr breaking) or when switching to EAGA/ESOS you can switch your trinket to Shamanic Fetish or again put the devotion in the weapon's red slot. There are better options than wasting a ring slot imo.

Consider Seal of Avithoul, Treads of Falling Shadow, and Nether Grasps. Torc, for a melee cleric.

[Crusad]

Hey, this is my planned gear setup for this guy: http://ddocrafting.info/myddo/khyber/Panrry/.

Head: Black dragon helm +3 ins STR - slotted +7 CON, +7 resistance
Necklace: Oremi's Neclace
Trinket: Planar Focus (+8 STR)
Goggles: Dream Visor - slotted +7 WIS
Armor: Black dragon robe - slotted +35 HP
Cloak: Adamantine Cloak of the Bear
Belt: Greensteel Mineral II 45 HP
Boots: Madstone/spiked boots - slotted with +7 Natural Armor
Bracers: Convalescent (20%) of Sup. Parrying
Gloves: PDK gloves
Ring 1: Oremi's - Holy Burst
Ring 2: Avithoul - +2 ins. wisdom
Handwraps: Grave wrappings/etc.

Any ideas? :-)

[jbleargh]

We're are you guys putting seeker?

Currently redoing my Monk to try and fit the Dream Visor in. When I do that, I lose the 6 seeker off of the Drow Smoke goggles. Can we still put seeker on a CC hat?

Still need to organize and fill some augments, but my monk just got a Cormyrian Red for the +10 seeker for the max dps mode (also +4 excep seeker from eh Bracers of Twisting shade, ToD berserker set for +2 damage and planar subterfuge for +8 sneak attack).

For the defence, she falls back to the caparison/sun soul/planar prowess

[Blank_Zero]

As far as destinies: I'm kind of holed up in Dreadnought atm, my main is going to be a blitzer and my actual Kensai I'm going to tr into a Hunter, means I'm going to lose haste boost and I'll be damned if I want to lose that when I'm dual wielding. Debating on just twisting haste and sense weakness into Primal, but the lack of the tactics boost and fort boost from sentinel is making it really really difficult to decide on anything besides dread.

Honestly, I'm starting to get ****ed at it >.< We need the cleric WIS destiny in there to give me enough points for that final twist. Which still leaves me without being able to twist endless lay on hands. I'm so screwed...

Do you stay in LD during raids too? I find that LDis best for soloing or shortmanning due to Blitz's mechanics, and Fury being much better suited to Groups, doing more boss DPS, etc.

I'm also doing some testing of Primal on Smrti, as it has some abilities that give a larger group benefit.

[zarthak]

heres my gear set up when i cap ( i dont know much about the augments so suggestions/help would rock

helm: +8 str black helm

neck: pendant of the stormreaver.

trinket: +3 str planar prowess

cloak: adamantine cloak of the wolf

belt: Epic spare hand

R1: +10 stunning dunrobar ring

gloves: ee nether grasps

boots: min2 HP boots

R2:seal of house avithoul +2 dex

bracers: EE twisting shade

armour: heavy flawless black armour
gogs: EE dream visors

weap: cleaver

destiny: http://ddodestiny.info/#d/legendary_...2,h,j,k,l3,u,x


note: i do not have all the items i listed.

[wtorchia]

Can put devotion in the new upgradable-to-red slot on Cleaver(assuming you don't care for good dr breaking) or when switching to EAGA/ESOS you can switch your trinket to Shamanic Fetish or again put the devotion in the weapon's red slot. There are better options than wasting a ring slot imo.

Consider Seal of Avithoul, Treads of Falling Shadow, and Nether Grasps. Torc, for a melee cleric.

I dnt want to give up my 30% healing amp so Nether Grasps are out. In my angle or sentinel ED I am getting 78 HP from my aura ticks. I had not considered Seal of Avithoul. It dose look nice. I need to give up my trinket slot to get the +4 hit/damage from the CITW set. So that only leaves the ring. The other option would be Madstones. That cuts 20 some odd devotion from the build though. It might be OK. I will have to get a set and try it out

[WruntJunior]

I dnt want to give up my 30% healing amp so Nether Grasps are out. In my angle or sentinel ED I am getting 78 HP from my aura ticks. I had not considered Seal of Avithoul. It dose look nice. I need to give up my trinket slot to get the +4 hit/damage from the CITW set. So that only leaves the ring. The other option would be Madstones. That cuts 20 some odd devotion from the build though. It might be OK. I will have to get a set and try it out

Consider picking up Greater Convalescent bracers of Superior Parrying...if you can find them. Frees up your gloves slot.

[Blank_Zero]

Consider picking up Greater Convalescent bracers of Superior Parrying...if you can find them. Frees up your gloves slot.

He just nabbed a set of 20% amp bracers like that off the AH though

[Blank_Zero]

heres my gear set up when i cap ( i dont know much about the augments so suggestions/help would rock

helm: +8 str black helm

neck: pendant of the stormreaver.

trinket: +3 str planar prowess

cloak: adamantine cloak of the wolf

belt: Epic spare hand

R1: +10 stunning dunrobar ring

gloves: ee nether grasps

boots: min2 HP boots

R2:seal of house avithoul +2 dex

bracers: EE twisting shade

armour: heavy flawless black armour
gogs: EE dream visors

weap: cleaver

destiny: http://ddodestiny.info/#d/legendary_...2,h,j,k,l3,u,x


note: i do not have all the items i listed.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Augment_Slot

That's the wiki page for all the new Augments.

You'll want the +14 PPR, GFL+35, Deathblock, and possibly Toughness if it ever gets released.

[zarthak]

http://ddowiki.com/page/Augment_Slot

That's the wiki page for all the new Augments.

You'll want the +14 PPR, GFL+35, Deathblock, and possibly Toughness if it ever gets released.

cool thanks. +1

[wtorchia]

Consider picking up Greater Convalescent bracers of Superior Parrying...if you can find them. Frees up your gloves slot.

I am running PDK gloves for 30% and Greater Convalescent bracers of Superior Parrying for 20%. If I could find a way to get 10% in I would. I view my RS2 aura as a form of DR. So the more HA the better.

[WruntJunior]

I am running PDK gloves for 30% and Greater Convalescent bracers of Superior Parrying for 20%. If I could find a way to get 10% in I would. I view my RS2 aura as a form of DR. So the more HA the better.

If you're running Greater Convalescent bracers of Superior Parrying, you'd heal for the exact same amount if you took your PDK gloves off. >_>