Shiradi Sorc / Pal / Mnk

[mikarddo]

Greetings

I am consider a 16 Sorc / 2 Pal / 2 Mnk Shiradi caster. Any comments or ideas to improve the build are most welcome. This is a lvl 25 build so ignore any implications on leveling to 25.

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Level 25 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(2 Paladin \ 2 Monk \ 16 Sorcerer \ 5 Epic) 
Hit Points: 528
Spell Points: 1570 
BAB: 11\11\16\21
Fortitude: 26
Reflex: 19
Will: 30

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 25)
Strength              9                    12
Dexterity            12                    15
Constitution         18                    23
Intelligence          9                    12
Wisdom                6                     9
Charisma             16                    27

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 25)
Balance               1                     7
Bluff                 5                    23
Concentration         8                    33
Diplomacy             3                    13
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                3                    13
Heal                 -2                     4
Hide                  1                     7
Intimidate            3                    13
Jump                 -1                     6
Listen               -2                     4
Move Silently         1                     7
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                  n/a
Repair               -1                     6
Search               -1                     6
Spot                 -2                     4
Swim                 -1                     6
Tumble                n/a                  11
Use Magic Device      5                    24

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 2 (Paladin)


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Paladin)


Level 5 (Sorcerer)


Level 6 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 7 (Sorcerer)


Level 8 (Sorcerer)


Level 9 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 10 (Sorcerer)


Level 11 (Sorcerer)


Level 12 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 13 (Sorcerer)


Level 14 (Sorcerer)


Level 15 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 16 (Sorcerer)


Level 17 (Sorcerer)


Level 18 (Sorcerer)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Evocation


Level 19 (Sorcerer)


Level 20 (Sorcerer)
Enhancement: Sorcerer Improved Empowering I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Improved Maximizing I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Improved Maximizing II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV
Enhancement: Sorcerer Air Savant I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Air Savant II
Enhancement: Corrosive Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Charged Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Charged Spellcasting II
Enhancement: Charged Spellcasting III
Enhancement: Kinetic Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Kinetic Spellcasting II
Enhancement: Kinetic Spellcasting III
Enhancement: Kinetic Spellcasting IV
Enhancement: Kinetic Spellcasting V
Enhancement: Deadly Acid I
Enhancement: Deadly Shocks I
Enhancement: Deadly Shocks II
Enhancement: Deadly Shocks III
Enhancement: Deadly Kinetics I
Enhancement: Deadly Kinetics II
Enhancement: Deadly Kinetics III
Enhancement: Deadly Kinetics IV
Enhancement: Deadly Kinetics V
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation I
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation II
Enhancement: Acid Manipulation III
Enhancement: Frost Manipulation I
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation I
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation II
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation III
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Storm Manipulation V
Enhancement: Flame Manipulation I
Enhancement: Force Manipulation I
Enhancement: Force Manipulation II
Enhancement: Force Manipulation III
Enhancement: Force Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Force Manipulation V
Enhancement: Force Manipulation VI
Enhancement: Force Manipulation VII
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Inscribed Armor I


Level 21 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Epic Toughness


Level 22 (Monk)


Level 23 (Monk)


Level 24 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 25 (Monk)

[WruntJunior]

Having only 1 Level 8 spell and no Level 9 spell is too big a loss to gain evasion.

I can definitively say that evasion is not needed even for EE GH soloing. You just loose too much on a sorc by losing 4 caster levels (including savant 3, which is very powerful).

In addition, that third toughness (and honestly the second one, but you don't have much choice on monk levels) doesn't do much for you.

I'd honestly just go with 18 sorc/2 pally. Your saves will be really nice, and you don't really need evasion when you have quickened reconstruct.

[Matuse]

Having only 1 Level 8 spell and no Level 9 spell is too big a loss to gain evasion.

The bigger loss is not having Savant III.

Immunity to knockdown.
SLA lightning bolt.
Wind Dance.

That's giving up a LOT.

[WruntJunior]

The bigger loss is not having Savant III.

Immunity to knockdown.
SLA lightning bolt.
Wind Dance.

That's giving up a LOT.

I weigh losing meteor swarm and PW:S about the same, but yeah, losing knockdown immunity and wind dance hurts a LOT too.

[MRMechMan]

Savant III is far too good to give up, echoing the others here for a reason-it's true.

18 sorc with 2 paladin OR 2 monk are both great builds...trying to combine the two by sacrificing sorc levels doesn't really work.

[mikarddo]

Thank you for the replies. Most helpful.