Neverwinter Recon

[Jay203]

for now it's just sit tight and watch how it evolves
certainly there are bugs, and they've been reported (hopefully will be fixed as well)
some mechanics in the game could also use some tweaking to avoid bad-taste gameplay
and then there's the whole user generated stuff, that's definitely something to keep an eye out for
of the foundry quests i've played, some are pretty boring, some have potential, and some are just... there

[die]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ERazhGrMI

well im watching this one now, i may have just found a deal breaker for me in regards too this game ... are you ready gamers ... here it comes hold tight....... 4th edition does now support.... drum roollll No duel classing in this game $%$% ARE YOU KIDDING ME IM SO ****ED

[Musouka]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ERazhGrMI

well im watching this one now, i may have just found a deal breaker for me in regards too this game ... are you ready gamers ... here it comes hold tight....... 4th edition does now support.... drum roollll No duel classing in this game $%$% ARE YOU KIDDING ME IM SO ****ED

that's not real news...

Multiclassing was thrown out the window, without heavy gimping, in 4th ed.

[Jaid314]

4th edition supports multiclassing. in at least 2 forms, in fact.

of course, one of those forms sucks massively, and the other one generally amounts to the equivalent of having less than 1 level in your other class unless you burn a ton of feats, but it's there.

(which is not to say that NWO supports multiclassing; i have no idea if it does or not).

[Postumus]

some mechanics in the game could also use some tweaking to avoid bad-taste gameplay

What do you mean by bad-taste gameplay? Shadow humping or...??

[Missing_Minds]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ERazhGrMI

well im watching this one now, i may have just found a deal breaker for me in regards too this game ... are you ready gamers ... here it comes hold tight....... 4th edition does now support.... drum roollll No duel classing in this game $%$% ARE YOU KIDDING ME IM SO ****ED

You tend to throw out multi classing when you make all classes balanced. You know, the fact that no one is special it sort of forces you to roll play your specialness.

[die]

the fact that there is no multi-classing just about kill's it for me .. why cant some one just build a DDO2 really its got the best game out there, but i cant play any more lol im just so bored of the same old **** over and over. now new update woot!! yea what i love too wait for, what Giant hold what really $#%^% bloody hell

[Jay203]

What do you mean by bad-taste gameplay? Shadow humping or...??

whenever you're in party and someone loots something on the ground that's of a certain quality or higher, a window pops up to all the party member prompting the Need/Greed/Pass roll

when multiple items are looted while in combat, your screen has a chunk blocked off by the prompts
if you want to see the stats of the item being rolled, you have to go into mouse mode (which means you can't react to combat)

[Jay203]

altho they do have pretty cool scoreboard for the dungeon delves
shows the amount of damage dealt by each party member, the amount of damage received, the amount of healing, amount of kills, and finally the number of times each member is 'downed' or killed

[Uska]

I do know chat bubbles are in.

Can you turn them off? If not that's a deal breaker I hate chat bubbles and won't pay a game where they are mandatory.

[LeslieWest_GuitarGod]

Can you turn them off? If not that's a deal breaker I hate chat bubbles and won't pay a game where they are mandatory.

I think so Uska, I usually hate bubbles as well, but surprisingly Ive never tried to turn em off because they blend in so well graphically... at least with my setup. I'll check that the next time I get a chance to play, unless someone ninjas me

[LeslieWest_GuitarGod]

I've never been a fan of any game where the primary reason for playing a class the way you want it, is a afterthought based on input from beta players.

Testing is needed in games like this because of balance issues. Its just a must. For example, DDO has had the same testing needs and always will. Games like DDO and Neverwinter have to follow at least the gist of the class as it is in the books. WotC will not allow Turbine or Cryptic to base the class the way they or alpha/beta testers may want it just for the hell of it. WotC get initial and final say, always.

[saco]

Can you turn them off? If not that's a deal breaker I hate chat bubbles and won't pay a game where they are mandatory.

They're not even chat bubbles really, hard to read for me at least.

As for Neverwinter itself... pretty much a WoWification of D&D is all it is. Combat is like GW2 or WoW, restrictive environment which it's even more restrictive than most MMOs, really it's like what Demon Stone was in the XBox. Had the name of D&D but certainly not D&D.

Had high hopes for Neverwinter but they were pretty much bashed in beta. Game if F2P so worth some time but I find it doubtful it'll hold much for those here since it's a polar opposite take on D&D. The things that make DDO unique is non-existent over there.

[LeslieWest_GuitarGod]

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Did you actually play the game?

[saco]

Did you actually play the game?

All weekend, I'm in the large crowd that aren't sold yet on Neverwinter.

[LeslieWest_GuitarGod]

All weekend, I'm in the large crowd that aren't sold yet on Neverwinter.

Fair enough. Where on the Neverwinter site are the large crowd of haters tho, just wondering? Because in all, seems pretty positive from my viewpoint. Its normal many like, many dont like... just the way games work out. Perfectly normal. Plenty did not DDO when it was in the same phase, and also made plenty of the Wow clone comments as well, in fact. We've heard it for years.

Sorry you didnt like the game. Just like DDO, its definitely not for everyone.

[saco]

Fair enough. Where on the Neverwinter site are the large crowd of haters tho, just wondering? Because in all, seems pretty positive from my viewpoint. Its normal many like, many dont like... just the way games work out. Perfectly normal. Plenty did not DDO when it was in the same phase, in fact.

Sorry you didnt like the game. Its definitely not for everyone.

Well you make the mistake of basing your assessment off of the official site, that is where all the rabid fans are. Of course you will mostly have positive posters over there. Go to MMORPG.com for a better assessment, which they still are not in the top 7 hyped MMO. And there are quite a few threads that are not holding Neverwinter up in rose-hued glasses, there is a certain presence not all pleased with the game. In both of my cross-gaming guilds there are a significant amount that are not all that trilled with Neverwinter, 1/3-1/2 of the posts are not positive.

Like you said, many will not like it, people will have differing opinions. And I'm not the one that started throwing accusations because my opinion differs.

[LeslieWest_GuitarGod]

Go to MMORPG.com for a better assessment

No I will never go to mmorpg for assessment of a game like this. DDO and Neverwinter have been punching bags for years on that site. Used to be a great source, still check it on occasion, but its filled of the Steam kiddies that jump from 1 f2p to another every week. So thanks but no thanks!!

No one's accusing anyone of anything, take it easy. Its all personal taste.

[Grosbeak07]

Watched some of the game play videos on You Tube.

Still not impressed...at all.

It is Champions or even Star Trek reskinned, the combat, heck even the UI looks very similar to things in Guild Wars 2. Showed the videos to my wife, who said... "looks just like Guild Wars 2". - only not quite as nice.

Meh.

I certainly didn't see anything new, exciting or even enticing. When I saw the cleric disarm traps, I think I threw up a little in my mouth. Not that I agree with pigeon-holing players into class roles, but that was just too much.

Plus many of the reviews on non-cryptic sites have been pretty bad, this game is looking more and more like a day late and a dollar short.

[Missing_Minds]

Fair enough. Where on the Neverwinter site are the large crowd of haters tho, just wondering?

... Seriously?