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    Default Hold Animal Saves in Eveningstar

    So I've been running on my level 22 (28 point) wisdom dumped tempest exploiter trying to get as many slayers as possible in Kings Forest.

    I lesser reincarnated yesterday to give my build more flexibility and found myself taking a second look at my spells. I grabbed hold animal instead of ignoring it and began testing it in kings forest.

    With a +6 wisdom item, +2 insightful, and +2 Wisdom / +1 Enchantment DC Ship buffs, I reach a whopping 18 Hold Animal DC. I'm able to hold spiders with ease, dire bears are a bit higher, and I can't hold wolves much.

    Anyone have an idea what DCs for hold animal are in Eveningstar (both kings forest slayer area and some quests)?
    I'm not looking to increase the DCs, but I want to know when not to throw my hold animal spell as it typically fails on dire bears and wolves and the like.

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    I cant answer the wolves/bears issue but spiders are mindless and don't get a save vs hold animal.

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    Considering any animal that can be held by hold monster (wolves, bears et al) has their will save balanced so that a wizard (which will typically have 40+ DC on their hold) doesn't auto-succeed on holds, I'd say that you'll pretty much never succeed on holding anything that isn't mindless.
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