Sithali, King of Burst DPS (12Mnk/6Rgr/2Ftr)

[connerj]

how can i find your youtube channel? got all my lifes and gear set for this AWESOME BUILD!!! just need to see funcionality and things.... BOSS BUILD!!!

[Symerith]

how can i find your youtube channel? got all my lifes and gear set for this AWESOME BUILD!!! just need to see funcionality and things.... BOSS BUILD!!!

I have not uploaded any 20+ videos of this build on my channel (you can find the link in my signature - or type on youtube "SithDDO").

I will do so when I have acquire all the pieces of gear that truly contribute to DPS.

There is however :
- 2 videos of a very close build (pretty much the same but without OC - so crits are significantly lower - On the Sithali, Adrenaline 19-20 are 5k damage arrows).
- videos for each level of the Sithali that I took while getting him to level 20.

[xTethx]

No big deal - already got it slotted.
Edit: I'll put the globe somewhere else and keep what I have on the robe - I'll wait till U18 to get +7 cha which is essentially +1 UMD for me.

@teth - how do you know U18 is in 4 months? just a random guess from time btw updates in the past?

Complete guess, but I would say April or May based on past.

[xberto]

[center]Nothing comes close to what FotW Epic moment + Adrenaline Manyshot can do.

I've been using FotW on my Archer and I'm here to testify!

[WruntJunior]

I've been using FotW on my Archer and I'm here to testify!

Likewise, even my gimpy, first-life, somewhat-under-geared FotW 10K stars archer has more burst damage than many non-FotW Manyshot people I know. It's fun having a "I want aggro now" button. :P

[Symerith]

Quick update on the build:
Farming EGH like a madman to get the new gearsetup
Videos coming soon!

I was getting some nice 5.4k crits in CITW the other day so after lunch today I set myself the task to get 5k on the dummy. Great success!

[rabrams99]

I am about 200k from cap, 12 monk, 6 ranger, 2 ftr and the dps is absurd. I still have some gear to put on at 25, but I am pretty close stat wise to 50 str 44wis buffed. I am getting 3k crits but nothing close to 4 or 5 k ones.

Are you now a different build than the 12/6/2 and is it better?

Am I missing something? I still need to favor Pdk but how can that with prowess make up that damage.


While pin is nice, isn't there any tier two better?

[Symerith]

Pin adds +3W to damage so on an adrenaline+stunned+Pin(Or otto's whistler) you reach 5k easy.

So to reproduce that damage... Human Versatility IV Damage, then Pin a mob (or Dummy), press Adrenaline then Otto's Whistler. Enjoy the 5k crit
Dummy is nice to get the Precise shot stance to 15 charges (i.e. 30% damage).

I did the 5k crit on the same build.

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For anything but EE GH, the Sithali build rocks the world of AAs.
You can't take a build out of its context, so here's mine:
- I do EE only
- I shortman or solo
- No healer in group: every person for himself
- I have an agressive playstyle so I like getting to mobs first and manyshot everything with Improved Precise Shot... which obviously makes me grab every mob's aggro (if they are still alive). And when you have everything aggroed on you, that's when you need saves. I'm sitting at roughly 40-45 and clearly that's not enough for EE GH.

Yesterday I did a lesser reincarnation in order to drop the 2 fighter levels for 2 paladin levels. Essentially, I am dropping OC for +15 saves. Drop 4 feats, you lose 2 anyway by going for pally splash, so 2 free feats and you can either go for:
1. Combat Archery/Improved Martial Arts for max ranged DPS (when those are fixed)
2. GTWF/Stunning fist
However, there was a bug during the lesser reincarnation and after 2 hours of waiting, a GM told me there was nothing he could do about it. I was pretty angry as it means my toon will be gimped for 1 week and I wasted 1800 turbine points (which I bet will not be refunded).
So since I don't see myself playing a gimp for 6 days, I'm TRing into the Juggernaut (one more to Haek's army). That will also reset my timers since I'm ransacked on citw/fall of truth/tor and give me +1 umd and +1 dmge (I'll benefit from the 3rd monk PL for my next AA life).

[Symerith]

While pin is nice, isn't there any tier two better?

No.

If you are primarly interested in running EE content, then Otto's Whistler/Pin/Cocoon should be your twists. For EN/EH content, I'd suggest getting DPS-oriented twists such as Critical Damage/Pin/Shiradi Stance.

[Symerith]

Posted a video of the build on my youtube channel..

Quality is only 480 and with full screen I realise it's not really great but I couldn't figure out how to put pictures + videos on Virtual Dub (compressing program I use usually) so I had to do with sucky WWM.

[emptysands]

Posted a video of the build on my youtube channel..

Quality is only 480 and with full screen I realise it's not really great but I couldn't figure out how to put pictures + videos on Virtual Dub (compressing program I use usually) so I had to do with sucky WWM.

This guys has a pretty good guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw6YAoai8fQ

[rabrams99]

No.

If you are primarly interested in running EE content, then Otto's Whistler/Pin/Cocoon should be your twists. For EN/EH content, I'd suggest getting DPS-oriented twists such as Critical Damage/Pin/Shiradi Stance.

1. So you dropped the haste boost tier 3 for the crit out of LD, the damage is better than the haste boosts?

2. have you tried twisting in the double rainbow shiradi (all three teirs obviously)

[Pyyro_del_Drago]

So, I plan on TRing a character into this build for a third life. I already have 2 rangers PLs, but no completionist or Pally pastlife on this toon. I was planning on doing a cleric dilly instead of Rogue for amping my chances of using heal scrolls since I am lacking completionist, etc. Is it worth it? Also, I was thinking of using the pally splash for the extra saves for EE GH, et cetera, but I am not willing to drop OC. Since I do not have a pally PL, would it be conceivable to take pally splash and keep OC by dropping the pally PL feat and another feat not required for prestige enhancements? I was thinking the second would be either Precision or toughness. What would you suggest? Or is it even worth trying to do the pally splash with OC? Would I just be better going fighter splash with OC or pally splash no OC?

Thanks for the help and for posting this awesome build on the forums .

[Symerith]

So, I plan on TRing a character into this build for a third life. I already have 2 rangers PLs, but no completionist or Pally pastlife on this toon. I was planning on doing a cleric dilly instead of Rogue for amping my chances of using heal scrolls since I am lacking completionist, etc. Is it worth it? Also, I was thinking of using the pally splash for the extra saves for EE GH, et cetera, but I am not willing to drop OC. Since I do not have a pally PL, would it be conceivable to take pally splash and keep OC by dropping the pally PL feat and another feat not required for prestige enhancements? I was thinking the second would be either Precision or toughness. What would you suggest? Or is it even worth trying to do the pally splash with OC? Would I just be better going fighter splash with OC or pally splash no OC?

Thanks for the help and for posting this awesome build on the forums .

Easy answer

Suggestion 1: Go for a 12monk/6ranger/2arti, you lose 1 feat (which is pally PL for you since you don't have that PL), pick up the the pally dilly for +4 saves and wear full time Greater convalescent bracers w/ +4 insight saves. You should be around 50 saves with full UMD from artificer and you still have OC.
Only downside of this build is that it's pretty rough on stats - while you have 36 pt build, if you think you don't have the tomes, simply go for a "easier (and better atm if you primarily run EEGH)" version which is the pally splash.

Suggestion 2: (What I'd do in your case) 12monk/6ranger/2paladin will net you higher saves, roughly the same UMD score, +9.5 damage per arrow with Rogue dillie and no starting stats difficulties at the cost of toughness (that's for the weak!).

Good luck with it!

[Pyyro_del_Drago]

Hmm, now that gives me even more to think about.. I do have a full set of +4 tomes, so I might be able to pull that off, what would the stat split be? On the other hand, around what HP would I end up with on the pally splash without toughness or completionist? Would it be enough HP to be viable at endgame?

Thanks so much for all your help .

[Arshan]

Given that Sithali seems tae be achieving 850ish + HP without thoughness, withdraw 25 HP from completionnist feat, and with the extra bonuses u should be around 800ish if ya withdraw them too.

800 HP seems totally reasonnable tae me given the badass saves (and extra survavibilities goodies) ya should get.

Might have some wee harsh times leveling at the very start HPwise, but as soon as ya'll have yer gear, ya'll be just fine IMHO

[K_0tiC]

Easy answer

Suggestion 1: Go for a 12monk/6ranger/2arti, you lose 1 feat (which is pally PL for you since you don't have that PL), pick up the the pally dilly for +4 saves and wear full time Greater convalescent bracers w/ +4 insight saves. You should be around 50 saves with full UMD from artificer and you still have OC.
Only downside of this build is that it's pretty rough on stats - while you have 36 pt build, if you think you don't have the tomes, simply go for a "easier (and better atm if you primarily run EEGH)" version which is the pally splash.

Suggestion 2: (What I'd do in your case) 12monk/6ranger/2paladin will net you higher saves, roughly the same UMD score, +9.5 damage per arrow with Rogue dillie and no starting stats difficulties at the cost of toughness (that's for the weak!).

Good luck with it!

Dont forget arti buys you the ability to drop mental toughness/pl wizard as they qualify for magical training. Also you dont need to worry about slotting for umd/cha skills with being able to take the full 28ranks of umd & you pick up +30% scroll mastery currently im self scrolling for 391 with 20% amp bracers on 331ish wearing steady armbands, plus +1 to level of your scrolls and pots so 35seconds haste etc. Im not finding my saves to be an issue with 12monk/6ranger/2arti even without finishing out twists I can solo most of the EE stuff just fine with LD blitzing the whole way.

[Symerith]

Dont forget arti buys you the ability to drop mental toughness/pl wizard as they qualify for magical training. Also you dont need to worry about slotting for umd/cha skills with being able to take the full 28ranks of umd & you pick up +30% scroll mastery currently im self scrolling for 391 with 20% amp bracers on 331ish wearing steady armbands, plus +1 to level of your scrolls and pots so 35seconds haste etc. Im not finding my saves to be an issue with 12monk/6ranger/2arti even without finishing out twists I can solo most of the EE stuff just fine with LD blitzing the whole way.

Hence 1 lost feat from 2 fighter splash I mentionned :P

Honestly, if you are a completionist 2 arti splash brings you nothing but 30% scroll mastery. With no effort, I was sitting at 41 UMD without any GS cha item (well I used the epic spare hand and it covers 2 slots as well).

The saves were never an issue before EEGH for me. Brimbal went for the same route as you (although he's completionist as well), and he sits in the 50 saves although he had to work a lot for it and drop rogue dillie.

There are 3 different AA splashes, and it all comes down to what you prioritize.

[Ormyrr]

Hence 1 lost feat from 2 fighter splash I mentionned :P

Honestly, if you are a completionist 2 arti splash brings you nothing but 30% scroll mastery. With no effort, I was sitting at 41 UMD without any GS cha item (well I used the epic spare hand and it covers 2 slots as well).

The saves were never an issue before EEGH for me. Brimbal went for the same route as you (although he's completionist as well), and he sits in the 50 saves although he had to work a lot for it and drop rogue dillie.

There are 3 different AA splashes, and it all comes down to what you prioritize.

Arti version will get grease from the lvl1 spells, very important! ^^

Reason why i went for arti version is to get 3rd arti life when i tr next time (won't happen before we get something new class features, waiting to tr something funky-twf). Saves with pali dille just under 60 in fort and will, reflex is 53(/54 hasted) and i miss imperial globe which will add one more reflex. Those are on earth stance.

[Ellihor]

What is your cocoon healing for each tick? Is scroll healing that bad to make you loose haste boost? I just think from the first build to now splashing paladin you dropped a lot of dps in favor to survavility. Talking about the build with OC, isnt it better to charge blitz with cleaves at entrace of quest then change to bow isntead of staying in FoTW?