Petition: Give eBluescale Superior Lore

[Gwyxxx]

Generally quote. Add something, this armor is not so good as it's supposed to be.

[patang01]

/not signed...

I understand why they aren't doing it. Arcane lore is quite powerful, because it covers all spells. The epic blue scale isn't supposed to be-all end-all for all casters, divine or arcane. Casters will still use this new blue scale, but typically wear a weapon or another piece that will have superior lore for the spell type they pretty much are focused on with their enhancements. The greater lore allows for a boost to the secondary or tertiary spells without having to equip another lore item.

The problem is that the blue dragon armor is worse then some lower ML armor. I'd settle for maybe a purple slot or spell augment 9 or something in addition - but the blue armor is not really in the same league like the FR ones. It's about being the gold standard of all armor - it's being something badass - scales from a dragon. The epic red scale was that kind of standard for a while, then we got the Cormyrian red and the green.

The blue is by comparison very tame.

[Book_O_Dragons]

It would help splashes like clonks, and mass regenerate has a max caster level of 25. I'm sure there's other uncapped or 21+ capped spells I'm not thinking of also.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Mass_Heal

I found that a few updates ago.

[phalaeo]

Signed.
Major Lore, please.

[oweieie]

Robe is junk. Will be using helm to get insightful int out of the trinket slot for Litany, but won't be touching the robe.

[Stanley_Nicholas]

According to wiki, the SET might do this:

ML25: Draconic Mind (set with armor, +15 artifact bonus to spell power), (one of: +8 or insightful +3 int or cha or wis), Empty Green Augment Slot, Empty Yellow Augment Slot

Well I'm glad to hear that, if it's true. Evoker divines regularly get the shaft in terms of itemization (and spell selection, and enhancement options, and...). Well, not just the evokers, but pretty much all divine casters in general.

[Gwyxxx]

Greater arcane lore is not so bad, i think, the problem is that all the bonus of this armor are very poor if you compare this with the 10% mana discount of a green of the war mage set + spidersilk.

And anyway if a Belt of the Seven Ideals gives both Greater Spell penetration IX AND Potency 80, the blue armor seems more and more useless now...

[legendlore]

Well I'm glad to hear that, if it's true. Evoker divines regularly get the shaft in terms of itemization (and spell selection, and enhancement options, and...). Well, not just the evokers, but pretty much all divine casters in general.

Lets not forget bards (even if developers do), since Blue Dragon Scale is one of the very few armors that comes with casting stats it's strange that it seems to be designed with primarily wizards (and artificers) in mind (since wizards generally don't care about the armors options and have a plethora of options in robes). Especially since dragons generally use cha for casting even if they are intelligent as well.



On topic I agree with some of the other posters that specific casting lores should be better than general. So major lore would a better option than superior. I could however see superior lightning lore being added since it's a blue dragon. An electric based guard/charged weapons effect would be fitting as well since blue dragon scales are supposed to be buzzing with electricity.

[soloist12]

Lets not forget bards (even if developers do), since Blue Dragon Scale is one of the very few armors that comes with casting stats it's strange that it seems to be designed with primarily wizards (and artificers) in mind (since wizards generally don't care about the armors options and have a plethora of options in robes). Especially since dragons generally use cha for casting even if they are intelligent as well.



On topic I agree with some of the other posters that specific casting lores should be better than general. So major lore would a better option than superior. I could however see superior lightning lore being added since it's a blue dragon. An electric based guard/charged weapons effect would be fitting as well since blue dragon scales are supposed to be buzzing with electricity.

That's all well and good, but how many items currently contain superior lores for impulse and radiance if we're using Twilight staff? I don't believe any exist, because turbine forgets divines have spells other than heal.

[dejafu]

/signed for Major Arcane Lore. Making it Major gives it a nice unique effect that still gives players a motivation to find something better for their primary spell damage type.

Superior Arcane Lore pushes us back into "everybody's in a blue dress" and "all other caster items are trash" territory.

[Carpone]

Blue armor should have Major Arcane Lore. Otherwise only Warforged are going to consider it, since they get screwed out of every other caster robe.

[ThePrisoner]

/Signed for at least major.

Also, availability in more flavors (wis, char) would be nice.

[Saravis]

I've already posted this suggestion in another thread, but this one seems to be getting more traction.

How about adding the Rahkir Archmage set bonus from ToD, 5% crit chance and 0.50 crit multiplier, to the Blue Dragon Set? This would allow for Major Arcane Lore, but would require you to wear 2 items to obtain it; the armor and helm. It is certainly a step up from having to wear 3 items, but its not as much of a stretch as requesting major arcane lore to be put on 1 item. It will also help encourage use of the set; +15 SP is rather meh, IMO.

[UrbanPyro]

Deleted.

[samthedagger]

Because Arcane Lore applies to EVERYTHING, I don't think it needs to be major or superior.

But the Helm should have a Wis variant. (edited: it does indeed have a Cha variant)

[QuantumFX]

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Flawless Dragonscale armor/robe/docents didn't feel Epic enough.

I've added in two upgrades for each of them.

Black:
Upgrade 1: +8 Enhancement Bonus (Robes go from +10 to +11 Armor)
Upgrade 2: Armor-Piercing 20%

White:
Upgrade 1: +8 Enhancement Bonus (Robes go from +10 to +11 Armor)
Upgrade 2: +8 Protection and +8 Shield bonus to AC.

Blue:
Upgrade 1: +8 Enhancement Bonus (Robes go from +10 to +11 Armor)
Upgrade 2: Major Arcane Lore

This makes them all solidly the highest AC armors of their categories.

Black becomes one of only two items with Armor-Piercing 20% (the other being the new shortsword Rebellion).

White is the only source of +8 Protection.

Blue is the only source of Major Arcane Lore, if you don't count the Rakhir's Sash/Ring set bonus from Tower of Despair, which is just the +0.5x spell critical damage aspect of Major Arcane Lore.

Hopefully these changes will be in your next Lamannia build. If not, then you'll see them in the one after that.

Unfortunately, I've run out of weekend/holiday time (today was Martin Luther King Jr. Day) to go back and adjust this stuff, so there's unlikely to be many other adjustments to Update 17 treasure.

[LordPiglet]

Because Arcane Lore applies to EVERYTHING, I don't think it needs to be major or superior.

But the Helm should have a Wis variant. (edited: it does indeed have a Cha variant)

Rumor has that it does come in +8 / or +3 Insightful

There's 6 variations of it per epic difficulties, 18 total variations that can drop.