The Deal and the Demon 1st chest removed.

[Charononus]

This chest has been adjusted, but not entirely removed. It was intended to be a reward for fulfilling the optional objective of allowing Ymris to summon his hirelings. If this objective has been completed, it will spawn at the end of the dungeon after the boss dies.

Does it spawn near Ymris at that point or in it's original location?

[Hendrik]

So, how does your foot taste? Good I hope.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

It is not the DEV team that should be ashamed here but everyone that jumped on the bandwagon.

Not surprised no.. But ashamed of how hard the dev team has fallen to perform such a poor, callous and unquestionably uncaring nerf.

Versus the old dev team addressing an nearly identical issue, only us ancient players may remember:
Caverns of Korromar, had a top loot lvl chest that you could just run in and get without fighting.

Did the devs callously respond by deleting it? No. They actaully cared about the game.

What they did:
Kept the chest, locked it, placed the key to unlock it further into the quest, past some encounters, so you had to earn the chest properly.

Thats exactly what should of been done here, perhapss have an optional named spider later in the quest drop a key for it.

But no, not the current dev team. Nerf and dont consider the ramifications of what they are doing to their playerbase. Disapointing. Well DDO2 is almost here, hopefully Cryptic does it right.

This chest has been adjusted, but not entirely removed. It was intended to be a reward for fulfilling the optional objective of allowing Ymris to summon his hirelings. If this objective has been completed, it will spawn at the end of the dungeon after the boss dies.

[kzeast]

So, how does your foot taste? Good I hope.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

It is not the DEV team that should be ashamed here but everyone that jumped on the bandwagon.

Don't worry. I'm sure Shade will be along shortly to apologise to the Devs...

[Riggs]

...Well DDO2 is almost here, hopefully Cryptic does it right.

Ha.

Played Champions Online for several months - by Cryptic. Dont go looking for great hopes there. Lots of things are way worse.

Awesome character creation though, and you can have more stuff on screen without destroying your comp with lag. And being able to run/fly/jump/move fast is massively awesome. Turbine should be looking at that part as a gold standard.

But content, bugs, lack of content, lack of loot - is really bad.

[Missing_Minds]

Ha.

Played Champions Online for several months - by Cryptic. Dont go looking for great hopes there. Lots of things are way worse.

Awesome character creation though, and you can have more stuff on screen without destroying your comp with lag. And being able to run/fly/jump/move fast is massively awesome. Turbine should be looking at that part as a gold standard.

But content, bugs, lack of content, lack of loot - is really bad.

No kidding. ALL of their content devs got pulled away from CO to their other games. I kid you not at all. Seriously, the feedback we had gotten from the developers over there... CO didn't even rate a step child, more like the beaten servent. Now I haven't been over there since a few months after PW bought them and conversions were happening, but I can only hope that someone has balls over there to fix things.

You think you could get more stuff on your screen without being destroyed by lag??? how many world events did you ever play in? Even with just a good number of heros, lag could start to happen against Destroyer. No, over all I suffer less lag in DDO than I ever did in CO. However, CO was finally the first game to actually push the graphics card hotter than DDO. Granted that took them 1.5 years after release to be able to do so.

[Hendrik]

Don't worry. I'm sure Shade will be along shortly to apologise to the Devs...

And admit he was wrong and just jumped on the hate bandwagon without any testing what so ever?



Guess stranger things have happened...

[Shmuel]

This chest has been adjusted, but not entirely removed. It was intended to be a reward for fulfilling the optional objective of allowing Ymris to summon his hirelings. If this objective has been completed, it will spawn at the end of the dungeon after the boss dies.

This is essentially forcing us to make a choice between xp (for intimidating him not to summon them) and loot. was that the intention?

[Ryiah]

This is essentially forcing us to make a choice between xp (for intimidating him not to summon them) and loot. was that the intention?

A very small amount of XP versus loot. I wonder what will win!

[Krelar]

This is essentially forcing us to make a choice between xp (for intimidating him not to summon them) and loot. was that the intention?

The xp was actually for allowing him to summon them unless they changed it. The intimidate options did not give xp but made the end fight easier.

[MrkGrismer]

This chest has been adjusted, but not entirely removed. It was intended to be a reward for fulfilling the optional objective of allowing Ymris to summon his hirelings. If this objective has been completed, it will spawn at the end of the dungeon after the boss dies.

Wow, both xp AND loot!

I figured it was a choice between a little extra xp and a little easier boss fight.

I always let him summon tho.

[LOOON375]

If they weren't so lazy, they could've simply added a boss at the chest. Probably some spider considering the location. But no...

And if they did just that, people cry about that too.........

[DarkForte]

And admit he was wrong and just jumped on the hate bandwagon without any testing what so ever?



Guess stranger things have happened...

The OP stated that after completing the quest, the chest was still not there. No testing would have shown otherwise from what I've saw.

[Lifespawn]

So, how does your foot taste? Good I hope.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

It is not the DEV team that should be ashamed here but everyone that jumped on the bandwagon.

it could have been stated in the release notes thats what they are for right changes to the game.

[zwiebelring]

Stealthy changes are annoying. Announce them immediately and nobody will complain. Searching for the needles within piles of threadpages is bad customer service.

[Hendrik]

The OP stated that after completing the quest, the chest was still not there. No testing would have shown otherwise from what I've saw.

Completing the Quest does not equal doing the optional.



Could have actually DONE the Optional, that would have tested it AND confirmed it. But the OP didn't.

And nobody else did after.

Hate Bandwagon Epic Fail.

[Hendrik]

it could have been stated in the release notes thats what they are for right changes to the game.

Preview Server.

They have not listed everything that has changed in the notes, even on Live.

It happens and you have been here long enough to know that.

The OP nerd raged out and then everyone else jumped on the Hate Bandwagon.

They should be ashamed.

[Krelar]

Preview Server.

They have not listed everything that has changed in the notes, even on Live.

Yes but after what happened when they added a door to house of death undone you'd think they'd know better.

[LeLoric]

Preview Server.

They have not listed everything that has changed in the notes, even on Live.

It happens and you have been here long enough to know that.

The OP nerd raged out and then everyone else jumped on the Hate Bandwagon.

They should be ashamed.

Nerd raging on others nerd raging. You should be ashamed.

[Lifespawn]

Preview Server.

They have not listed everything that has changed in the notes, even on Live.

It happens and you have been here long enough to know that.

The OP nerd raged out and then everyone else jumped on the Hate Bandwagon.

They should be ashamed.

Ya like they never stealth nerf anything you've been here long enough to know better.

The op posted that it was removed from where it previously was and even tried to run the quest to see if it was at the end before he posted and Then went back to see if it spawned after completion i think the op did plenty of testing before making a post.


The op seemed to do a good job of exploring for the chest and showed effort in doing so others jumped on because of that if op just posted chest gone people would have done research first.

[Missing_Minds]

Yes but after what happened when they added a door to house of death undone you'd think they'd know better.

What about the doors in Monastery of the Scorpion?