The Juggernaut - Prime of the Warforged

[Choopak]

The PRR Enhancement requires the Adamantine Body feat which most Juggernauts and even most other warforged don't take in favor of being centered for the benefits of mountain stance (which includes even more PRR) and having more Dodge bonus.

Another nice addition though if you take the Weapon Attachment is that you can gain Adamantine and a stacking Racial Seeker +2 on an attached weapon. Warforged on the other hand get one more +10 HP enhancement.

Nice catch! Can BF start as a 34, 36 points build? Character Generator don't let you... glitch or reality?

[kendo]

Well if you take the OP version (with pally) you're much better off with bladeforged, no more - 2 CHA!! If you use the ranger, TWF version, then regular WF seem better...
Anyone tried both version? Sorry if it has been answered already (it is 45 pages long)

BTW: starting as a pally (with BF), does this hurt the build badly? or you just loose a bit of skills and that's it?

if I was looking at going the Pally version, would almost certainly go with BF. you probably aren't going to try to push dex high enough to worry about grabbing combat archery and no penalty to CHR, along with reconstruct SLA and getting to skip right to 15. yes, please

but I am going the ranger route, initially centered with Sireth. had been thinking about going TWF as I had 1 nightmare already and the raider's box would have let me grab either a second nightmare or celestia but going to wait a while for the dust to settle with the changes to nightmare.

[kendo]

Could try putting combat archery instead of epic toughness.
I think I will do it when my timer for lr resets.
Actually can put it in even with epic toughness.
But you need +4 and +5 tomes or 2 +4 tomes and put a point in 1 ability.

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.03
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Level 28 Lawful Neutral Warforged Male
(2 Monk \ 2 Ranger \ 16 Artificer \ 8 Epic) 
Hit Points: 488
Spell Points: 969 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 16
Will: 14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
Strength             17                    27
Dexterity            17                    21
Constitution         16                    21
Intelligence          8                    12
Wisdom               10                    13
Charisma              6                    10

Tomes Used
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 2
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+5 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 2

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
Balance               3                    14
Bluff                -2                     9
Concentration         3                    14
Diplomacy            -2                     9
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                     9
Heal                  0                    10
Hide                  3                    14
Intimidate           -2                     9
Jump                  3                    17
Listen                0                    10
Move Silently         3                    14
Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair               -1                    10
Search               -1                    10
Spellcraft           -1                    10
Spot                  0                    10
Swim                  3                    17
Tumble                n/a                  n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                    n/a

Level 1 (Artificer)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery


Level 4 (Artificer)


Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Adept of Forms


Level 7 (Artificer)


Level 8 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 9 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 10 (Artificer)


Level 11 (Artificer)


Level 12 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 13 (Artificer)


Level 14 (Artificer)


Level 15 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms


Level 16 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Precise Shot


Level 17 (Artificer)


Level 18 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 19 (Artificer)


Level 20 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Improved Precise Shot


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Toughness


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Toughness


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target

This is what Im thinking of doing on my centered jugg.
Not so sure about last feat, dont know what else to take, doubleshot is **** when you use bow mostly when manyshotting, pthf is meh, only 10% more glancing blow, could take that, but will try elusive target first.
Holy strike only on vorpal and only on evil targets, pthf does more dmg than holy strike.

don't think you can take zen archery at lvl 3 unless you start with an 11 wisdom. it requires wisdom 12 and you would only be at wisdom 11 at level 3.

[Arkadios]

don't think you can take zen archery at lvl 3 unless you start with an 11 wisdom. it requires wisdom 12 and you would only be at wisdom 11 at level 3.

You're right except it requires 13 wisdom so he'd have to be 11+ to take zen archery.

[Firewall]

don't think you can take zen archery at lvl 3 unless you start with an 11 wisdom. it requires wisdom 12 and you would only be at wisdom 11 at level 3.

Zen Archery even needs 13+ WIS.

[Ivan_Milic]

don't think you can take zen archery at lvl 3 unless you start with an 11 wisdom. it requires wisdom 12 and you would only be at wisdom 11 at level 3.

Bah, did that because I was lazy and put all tomes from lvl 1
Will do it again.
Actually can take that 2nd monk lvl at 13 or 14.
This is build only for my lr, so doesnt matter when I take what class.

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.03
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Level 28 Lawful Neutral Warforged Male
(2 Monk \ 2 Ranger \ 16 Artificer \ 8 Epic) 
Hit Points: 438
Spell Points: 969 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 16
Will: 14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
Strength             17                    28
Dexterity            17                    21
Constitution         16                    21
Intelligence          8                    12
Wisdom               10                    13
Charisma              6                    10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15
+5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
Balance               3                    14
Bluff                -2                     9
Concentration         3                    14
Diplomacy            -2                     9
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                     9
Heal                  0                    10
Hide                  3                    14
Intimidate           -2                     9
Jump                  3                    18
Listen                0                    10
Move Silently         3                    14
Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair               -1                    10
Search               -1                    10
Spellcraft           -1                    10
Spot                  0                    10
Swim                  3                    18
Tumble                n/a                  n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                    n/a

Level 1 (Artificer)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave


Level 4 (Artificer)


Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Adept of Forms


Level 7 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 8 (Artificer)


Level 9 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 10 (Artificer)


Level 11 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 12 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Artificer)


Level 14 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery


Level 15 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms


Level 16 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Precise Shot


Level 17 (Artificer)


Level 18 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 19 (Artificer)


Level 20 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Improved Precise Shot


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Toughness


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting

Fixed it now.
Decided to drop epic toughness and take epic dmg reduction, think it benefits me more, since I have around 1.1k hp in quest.

[SocialRipple]

I'm fairly new, I've never leveled a character past 10 and I'm back after taking a break from DDO for a while. I'm really intrigued by the Juggernaut but I'm unsure how it would work as a first life. Is it possible to do properly with a 32-point build? Is it self-sufficient while leveling or does it only shine in the endgame? It looks like a lot of fun, especially since I'm primarily solo, but I don't know where to start without the extra points and past lives and such.

Any advice for a beginner? Thanks!

[era42]

I'm fairly new, I've never leveled a character past 10 and I'm back after taking a break from DDO for a while. I'm really intrigued by the Juggernaut but I'm unsure how it would work as a first life. Is it possible to do properly with a 32-point build? Is it self-sufficient while leveling or does it only shine in the endgame? It looks like a lot of fun, especially since I'm primarily solo, but I don't know where to start without the extra points and past lives and such.

Any advice for a beginner? Thanks!

Jugg really shines at 20. The leveling is fine, but not the easiest builds around. The main problem is, that reconstruct comes pretty late, which makes the big difference. You want the 2 monk levels early, so reconstruct comes at level 17 the earliest. Furthermore, for skillpoint assignment it's better to take paladin levels first, pushing reconstruct to 19. Other than that, it's fine. Early levels are breeze with repeater, trapping works all the way through, but the higher heroic levels before reconstruct are less fun.

Making 32-point build should be quite doable, just need to plan the stats carefully with the requirements for the feats: manyshot 17dex, overwhelming critical 23str, epic toughness 21con, zen archery 13wis (if you want that, probably the hardest stat-requirement for a 32-pointer).

[SocialRipple]

Jugg really shines at 20. The leveling is fine, but not the easiest builds around. The main problem is, that reconstruct comes pretty late, which makes the big difference. You want the 2 monk levels early, so reconstruct comes at level 17 the earliest. Furthermore, for skillpoint assignment it's better to take paladin levels first, pushing reconstruct to 19. Other than that, it's fine. Early levels are breeze with repeater, trapping works all the way through, but the higher heroic levels before reconstruct are less fun.

Making 32-point build should be quite doable, just need to plan the stats carefully with the requirements for the feats: manyshot 17dex, overwhelming critical 23str, epic toughness 21con, zen archery 13wis (if you want that, probably the hardest stat-requirement for a 32-pointer).

Thank you for all the information, I really appreciate it!

[JohnBacon]

Thank you for all the information, I really appreciate it!

I had posted a 32 point version of this here: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5152232

It was a reincarnate but it really should be fine for leveling. Let me know if you have any questions.

[SocialRipple]

I had posted a 32 point version of this here: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5152232

It was a reincarnate but it really should be fine for leveling. Let me know if you have any questions.

I know it's a newbie question, but why the feats like Point Blank Shot if you are dealing most of your damage in melee? Is it just to load up burst damage with Manyshot at higher levels? I imagine the leveling process would be to grab my trusty Carnifex and cleave through everything in sight?

I'm not worried about groups and max-level burst right now, I just want to solo quests without a lot of frustrating deaths.

Am I misunderstanding the strengths of the build?

[Chai]

I know it's a newbie question, but why the feats like Point Blank Shot if you are dealing most of your damage in melee? Is it just to load up burst damage with Manyshot at higher levels? I imagine the leveling process would be to grab my trusty Carnifex and cleave through everything in sight?

I'm not worried about groups and max-level burst right now, I just want to solo quests without a lot of frustrating deaths.

Am I misunderstanding the strengths of the build?

Many shot requires point blank shot. Its a feat that can be taken at low level where many of the others make you wait for BAB prereq.

[Choopak]

Sup man

I browse trough the first 20 pages... but still can't find the enhancement for this guy... the new ones, since the enhancements pass.
I would love to try this out as a bladeforged, having reconstruct as a SLA at low level would help for sure, and since now, with U20, you start at level 15! yayyyy
So you need 17 DEX for manyshot right? and 21 STR/CON for OC and epic toughness...
What else is mandatory? forgetting anything? Also, as a first life TR, is it still possible (34 point build)
Thanks

[Ribopaido]

Interesting ..Seems haek is doing iconic now...Can't wait to see what he is up too :P

[era42]

I browse trough the first 20 pages... but still can't find the enhancement for this guy... the new ones, since the enhancements pass.

That's because frankly, the enhancements suck for this build, other than racials. You take the low hanging fruits and skip all high tier stuffs.

3 points in AA for arrows
11 ninja spy for dodge/ref/sneak attack
arachnotech 4 for scroll mastery
tempest 7 for sprint boost
shintao 1 for 10% hamp
After those, you still have some to spend. I grabbed 23 in arachnotech for +2 enchant and 2str, the rest (~30) goes to race.

[pappo]

Will do something like that on the weekend.

On you Devil Assault solo video, you start out fighting with what looks like a Greatsword and then switch to a Greataxe.
Can you tell me what those weapons were ?
Is that how this toon deals DPS ? Are you not using the repeating crossbow at all on a Jugger build ?

+1 for the build.

[Henky]

Interesting ..Seems haek is doing iconic now...Can't wait to see what he is up too :P

8 fighter 6 monk 6 ranger

[Ivan_Milic]

On you Devil Assault solo video, you start out fighting with what looks like a Greatsword and then switch to a Greataxe.
Can you tell me what those weapons were ?
Is that how this toon deals DPS ? Are you not using the repeating crossbow at all on a Jugger build ?

+1 for the build.

Greatsword is skybreaker from fot, greataxe is cleaver from citw.
Yea, thats how jugg deals dps, with switching to bow for manyshot.

[Earthy104]

I'm just gearing up my toon to TR into a second life and I thought the juggy looked appealing. Is it possible to do the ranger variant as a second life with a +4 supreme ability tome, or will I be short on points to do the mid/high level feats. Centered version, THF or twf are options as I have 2 raider's boxes I haven't used yet.

Thanks.

[Ykt]

My current version with Master of Forms (+1 crit Earth stance, extra PRR and HP) and Zen Archery (Earth stance with bow).

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Yktaw 
Level 28 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(2 Monk \ 2 Ranger \ 16 Artificer \ 8 Epic) 
Hit Points: 552
Spell Points: 1066 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 14
Will: 15

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
Strength             16                    23
Dexterity            13                    17
Constitution         18                    27
Intelligence         13                    16
Wisdom               12                    14
Charisma              6                     9

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 15
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
+5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
Balance               1                    12
Bluff                -2                     8
Concentration         4                    17
Diplomacy            -2                     8
Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
Haggle               -2                     8
Heal                  1                    11
Hide                  1                    12
Intimidate           -2                     8
Jump                  3                    15
Listen                1                    11
Move Silently         1                    12
Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair                1                    13
Search                1                    13
Spellcraft            1                    12
Spot                  1                    11
Swim                  3                    15
Tumble                n/a                  n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                    n/a

Level 1 (Artificer)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Adept of Forms


Level 7 (Artificer)


Level 8 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Point Blank Shot


Level 9 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 10 (Artificer)


Level 11 (Artificer)


Level 12 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 13 (Artificer)


Level 14 (Artificer)


Level 15 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 16 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 17 (Artificer)


Level 18 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 19 (Artificer)


Level 20 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Precise Shot


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Toughness


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Pierce Damage Reduction (Silver)


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target

At lvl 28 I have:
base 900 HP (1000 in FotW), 46 PRR (blue augment, planar focus, earth stance)