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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowspeaker View Post
    What is the name of the feat I need to upgrade to master/grandmaster earth?


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    Master of forms...I assume grandmaster is grandmaster of forms, Didn't take that since you get +1 crit in master form Earth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviya View Post
    I recommend dropping grandmaster (master earth is fine 'cause you already get your +1 crit multiplier) and take zen archery to benefit from the PRR and dps boost of the earth stance while using your pinion.
    This is what I did and what a beast with the extra crit multiplier. Zen archery makes it a breeze to swap to bow, so convenient to stay in stance and the dps is upped considerably.

    Others have talked of twisting standing with stone for the PRR boost. Currently I am twisting Grim's Precision and can't twist a tier 4 yet. Getting close to enough fate points though. What does everyone think, is Standing with Stone a better twist than Grim's? Anyone using weapon attachment. I found too often it was wasted switching to bow or a scroll and the cool down is really long.

    Also, loving quickstrike. Nice boost to dps with the villager staff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowspeaker View Post
    What is the name of the feat I need to upgrade to master/grandmaster earth?


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    You need the feats Adept of Forms (at least 1 monk level, available at or after character level 6)
    Master of Forms, same as above but available at and after character level 12
    Grandmaster of Forms (see a pattern ) @ char level 18.

    This is an awesome build I'm loving it although severely lacking in recon SP. I'm toying with a khopesh TWF since my lit2s are the best I got. No red slot to put a recon gem and hate cannith challenges so so ring of master artifice.

    Any recommendations for bridge gear while I work for CitW flagging and get some weapons from there? Using a bow from harbringer of madness chain but I could craft a GS bow in due time. Really looking for something with red slot, possibly cannith crafted?
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    Default The TWF version arrived.

    Howdy fellow Juggs


    After some horrible moments in What goes up yesterday i feel like trash is the new endgame. Therefore i will change Haek tomorrow to a TWF version of the Juggernaut keeping the same level split but going for dual Nightmares instead.

    Feats are as followed considering a leveling chain of AMMARRAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (Free feats, Monk/Arti Feats)

    1 PBS
    2 PA
    3 Completionist / Dodge
    5 Rapid Shot/BowStr
    6 Twf Cleave
    8 Precise Shot
    9 Great Cleave
    12 ITWF / Imp Crit Ranged
    15 GTWF
    16 Quicken
    18 Manyshot
    20 Imp precise Shot
    21 Overwhelming Crit
    24 Bastard Sword
    26 Toughness
    27 Epic Toughness
    28 PTWF

    The enhancements look really great with dual bastard swords, fusilade is coming back.
    Yes there is no imp crit slash: Nightmares and balizardes are both keen, so are mourns. Could drop epic toughness if neccessary in case of an uber new sword.

    After a first glimpse on the enhancements i am looking for a point distribution of:
    BaE 27 WF 17 Temp 17 Ninja 11 Deepwood 1 AA 7 = 80

    Will LR into this tomorrow postponing the Phantom Lancer idea for at least another week, need to test out as much as possible before using the +20 heart or TRing.

    Another very viable Option is used last couple days is the centered version switching out toughness on Monk 2 for Zen archery, mithral Body for Adept of forms and Epic Toughness for Master of Forms, going for cenetred with sireth and pinion. The enhancements are quite good there as well but nowhere near the fit of the bastard sword twf.

    After LRing i might have some time this week to make a video or too, but not sure RL is very busy atm

    Any questions? - Shoot.

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    I tried something like that, but instead of 2 Nightmares, 1 + runearm. Maybe it was the runearm fault, but i didnt like it. Don't have the second one, so couldnt try twf.

    One question... why fusilade and not haste boost?

    Mine is still thf with cleave, and also dont like the new enhancements for thf, but i don't have extra comms for a change on weapons + upgrades, so i don't know what to do with him.

    Oh, and ty for sharing the build

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henky View Post

    One question... why fusilade and not haste boost?
    Haste boost can be aquired from Tempest and LD

    And i really like a mac stacked blitz fusialde with imp precise shot on my needle :P
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    Get a large spawn with about 40 mobs or so in Storm Horns using a 6 man group and solo them, planting yourself in the middle with those cleaves and a build like this, perhaps using unearthly reactions to tumble through the large crowed to avoid wrap around death. I like this twf nightmare build idea, seems a little more resilient than my version just a little less dps, need to check the differences. Note: Switching between ranged and twf a lot will mean you lose out on archer focus in melee and this combined with Dreadnought damage pumps twf nightmare damage into the 120~150 range base.
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    Turbine will thank you. For years they have been trying to get us to use bastards swords and finally there is a build where it actually makes sense.

    Using the centered version myself. Not sure if I have 2 nightmares and very sure don't have the comms to upgrade them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiipeJii View Post
    Using the centered version myself. Not sure if I have 2 nightmares and very sure don't have the comms to upgrade them.
    I have exactly the same problem, Upgraded sireth and pinion, and 1 nightmare - not upgraded.

    Considering this - would you please post new enhancements setup for centered version ? I have just reached lvl 20 and i'm having great fun with this build - specially when i was able to finally use my twists again. i really would love to try sireth/pinion version , even though - as you say - TWF version is much better now .

    And thanks again for this wonderfull build - as it keep me playing this game . Great job !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antheia View Post
    Considering this - would you please post new enhancements setup for centered version ?
    Will post a screenshot of my current enhancement allocation when i am getting home from work.
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    Hmm just saw the posts and had something to say.
    Build is not even close to trash now..i think its working greater than ever...Im soloing ee more easily now with the right strategy and alchemical pots..
    Damage is wow...base damage on 250-300 and managed to crit up to 7k with a single adrenaline..I think that twf is a bit strange for the build..But seems like the new changes favor it...Hoping to see ur changes Haek
    But im almost certain i won't be leaving my skybreaker any time soon )))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribopaido View Post
    Build is not even close to trash now..
    I dont think the build is trash now either lol

    But the current endgame consists of trash (non-boss mobs), without a new raid and or any interesting or hard boss fight the only difficulty is the amount of CR70+ orcs and assassins coming to fist my shiny metal a$$ :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurzifer View Post
    But the current endgame consists of trash (non-boss mobs), without a new raid and or any interesting or hard boss fight the only difficulty is the amount of CR70+ orcs and assassins coming to fist my shiny metal a$$ :P

    Agreed..But I tend to play basketball with their heads before they get my shiny a$$ :P

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    Enhancements for Centered version:
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    Can't wait to see the enhancement line for TWF. I assume you want to dualwield nightmare/balizarde or dual nightmare. In case of the balizarde combo, does it matter which weapon you mainhand?
    Will Epic destinies still be the same as well?
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    Heh My friend Scoob used to have a TWF Jugg. First, and only one I've ever seen. Made it sometime around U15 I think. Originally was a Drow Khopesh build build for stunning EE mobs, but he swapped it up a bit with U17 and went dual Morhn's. He seemed to really, really enjoy the build before he quit playing. He really pumped the DPS out as well.

    No offense meant but he was honestly one of the only Juggs I've ever seen who were worth their weight in the precious metals they're made of.

    Anyways, cheers! Hope the TWF version works out for you.
    I'm actually trying to design a fleshy centered version with Sireth and Pinion for my Arti life.(Don't have WF currently, and can't TR into a bladeforged yet) Still not entirely sure how to go about it.
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    Tring into iconics, especially bladeforged will be totally OP imo. SLA Reconstruct on any class with 1 lvl pal seems wrong :P
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    Is it just me or is the black dragon docent look real ugly without mithral body. It’s like a mix of washed out black docent and maybe dragontouched docent.

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    yip ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLegendOfAra View Post
    Heh My friend Scoob used to have a TWF Jugg. First, and only one I've ever seen. Made it sometime around U15 I think. Originally was a Drow Khopesh build build for stunning EE mobs, but he swapped it up a bit with U17 and went dual Morhn's. He seemed to really, really enjoy the build before he quit playing. He really pumped the DPS out as well.

    No offense meant but he was honestly one of the only Juggs I've ever seen who were worth their weight in the precious metals they're made of.

    Anyways, cheers! Hope the TWF version works out for you.
    I'm actually trying to design a fleshy centered version with Sireth and Pinion for my Arti life.(Don't have WF currently, and can't TR into a bladeforged yet) Still not entirely sure how to go about it.
    I ran a TWF Jugg last life and I loved it was using deathnips which was very fun. I never reached the true potential of the build since my main objective was to cap and farm EDs before the level cap increase which put gear farming on the back burner. So even under geared I very much enjoyed TWF deathnip Jugg

    for now its back to the past life grind but I'll likely go Jugg again in the future.

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