The Juggernaut - Prime of the Warforged

[SEMPER]

The biggest problems is juggling around the feats that you have to take. For example the monk bonus feats are pretty much limited to toughness and power attack; there is not really anything else on the martial arts feat list.

Arti feats are taken up with PBS, ICrit:ranged, Quicken and mithral body/Precise shot

So that means the only feat to really take at 1 is stunning blow. Can't take cleave, PA & toughness taken care of, exotic weapons need 1 BAB, etc

So your heroic feats could be:
1-stunning blow
3-cleave
6-khopesh
9-Icrit:slash
12-itwf
15-many shot
18-gtwf

This is my current setup on my 2wf jugg, but I also have completionist so have moved gtwf way way back to 24! (Dps is still very nice at 18 without it, out doing other traditional juggs at level who may not be geared).

I think serious consideration needs to be given to Citw weapons, or a heavy pick combination like deathnip and drow of stunning.

While I am a total newbie to ED's due to tr addiction, primal avatar does have some very nice twf bonuses, and would twist nicely into fury or dreadnaut. Likewise, a feat shuffle to take two weapon defence and trade Mithral body for ips? Could provide a very similar PRR as well as a much higher ac.

Pally PL & a bard slav... Companion would greatly benefit twf juggs as well.

Heh, still very much a work in progress but would be very interested In seeing others thoughts and plans on twf juggernauts.

Yeah I have already worked out the feats for the most part and it looks pretty close to your list , problem is atm there just aren't a lot of good khopesh's out there so I'm not sure that is worth the feat , but there are great 1handers out there so I'm still torn on what to do .... Atm I think I'm going to go twf with a possible LR to thf

[Lurzifer]

Thelanis Juggernaut Branch visiting Suulomades

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Eo5pM7gN0

[voxson5]

Thats awesome, cant wait to be a part of it

[Marmaduke]

So, trying to plan out my jugg's equipment and, most notably, his chest armor. How would you guys rate Cormyrian Red vs Black Armor?

[Stylez777]

Build looks awesome and want to give this a try but had a question...

Why is the ranger version recommended for several past melee lives or completionist? Does it not work well as a first lifer or second / third life TR?

[Kallith]

Build looks awesome and want to give this a try but had a question...

Why is the ranger version recommended for several past melee lives or completionist? Does it not work well as a first lifer or second / third life TR?

The ranger version gives you more options with feats is all.

[smokinwrek]

OK, I'm thinking of making a Jugg. I have an old WF Fighter toon laying around (that I haven't really played since the Arti came out) that I'm thinking of TRing. It's a first life toon, so I'd only have 1 Fighter PL coming into the Jugg.

Here's the build I did on the CharGen and I would appreciate any constructive criticism:

Character Generated Using: DDO Character Generator
Direct Link to Build: http://www.ddochargen.com/home.aspx?build=46300

Artificer 16 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2
Male Warforged - Lawful Neutral
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PAST LIVES SELECTED:
Fighter (1)
Tomes Recorded: STR: +3, DEX: +3, CON: +3, INT: +3,
WIS: +3, CHA: +3
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LEVEL 1
Race Selected: Male Warforged
Alignment Selected: Lawful Neutral
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 1)
Abilities Raised: STR: 16, DEX: 16, CON: 17,
INT: 10, WIS: 8, CHA: 8
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +3 (3),
Haggle +2 (2), Open Lock +3 (3), Search +3 (3), Spot +3 (3),
UMD +2 (2)
Feats Selected: Point Blank Shot
Enhancements Selected: Repair Manipulation I,
Warforged Hardiness I, Warforged Construct Thinking I,
Artificer Energy of Creation I
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LEVEL 2:
Class Selected: Monk (Artificer 1 / Monk 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Jump +3 (3), Listen +1 (1)
Feats Selected: Power Attack
Enhancements Selected: Warforged Tactics I,
Artificer Crossbow Damage I
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LEVEL 3:
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 2 / Artificer 1)
(Applied Past Life Tome Bonuses)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (1), Jump +3 (6)
Feats Selected: Cleave, Toughness
Enhancements Selected: Way of the Clever Monkey I,
Racial Toughness I, Warforged Damage Reduction I
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LEVEL 4:
Class Selected: Ranger (Monk 2 / Artificer 1 / Ranger 1)
Abilities Raised: CON: 19
Skills Ranks Raised: Jump +1 (7), Listen +1 (2),
Search +1 (4), Spot +1 (4), Swim +2 (2)
Feats Selected: Favored Enemy (Undead)
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LEVEL 5:
Class Selected: Ranger (Monk 2 / Ranger 2 / Artificer 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Concentration +1 (1), Jump +1 (8),
Listen +1 (3), Search +1 (5), Spot +1 (5), Swim +1 (3)
Enhancements Selected: Ranger Swamp Lore I,
Ranger Tundra Lore I, Ranger Desert Lore I, Ranger Sprint Boost I
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LEVEL 6:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 2 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +2 (5), Open Lock +2 (5)
Feats Selected: Precise Shot
Enhancements Selected: Warforged Tactics II,
Racial Toughness II, Artificer Damage Boost I, Reconstructive Spellcasting I
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LEVEL 7:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 3 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
(Applied Past Life Tome Bonuses)
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +1 (6),
Open Lock +1 (6), Search +1 (6), Spot +1 (6), UMD +1 (3)
Enhancements Selected: Repair Manipulation II,
Mighty Reconstruction I, Warforged Construct Thinking II
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LEVEL 8:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 4 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
Abilities Raised: CON: 21
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +2 (8),
Open Lock +1 (7), Search +1 (7), Spot +1 (7)
Feats Selected: Quicken Spell
Enhancements Selected: Artificer Crossbow Attack I,
Artificer Damage Boost II
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LEVEL 9:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 5 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +1 (9),
Open Lock +1 (8), Search +1 (8), Spot +2 (9)
Feats Selected: Manyshot
Enhancements Selected: Reconstructive Spellcasting II,
Repair Manipulation III, Warforged Hardiness II
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LEVEL 10:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 6 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +1 (10),
Open Lock +1 (9), Search +1 (9), Spot +1 (10), UMD +1 (4)
Enhancements Selected: Mighty Reconstruction II,
Warforged Power Attack I, Warforged Power Attack II
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LEVEL 11:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 7 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
(Applied Past Life Tome Bonuses)
Skills Ranks Raised: Concentration +1 (2), Disable Device +1 (11),
Open Lock +1 (10), Search +1 (10), Spot +1 (11)
Enhancements Selected: Artificer Battle Engineer I
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LEVEL 12:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 8 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
Abilities Raised: STR: 20
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +1 (12),
Haggle +1 (3), Open Lock +1 (11), Search +1 (11), Spot +1 (12)
Feats Selected: Improved Critical (Slashing),
Improved Critical (Ranged)
Enhancements Selected: Reconstructive Spellcasting III,
Warforged Construct Thinking III
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LEVEL 13:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 9 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +1 (13),
Haggle +1 (4), Open Lock +1 (12), Search +1 (12), Spot +1 (13)
Enhancements Selected: Mighty Reconstruction III,
Warforged Hardiness III
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LEVEL 14:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 10 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +1 (14),
Open Lock +1 (13), Search +1 (13), Spot +1 (14), UMD +1 (5)
Enhancements Selected: Warforged Power Attack III,
Repair Manipulation IV
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LEVEL 15:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 11 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +1 (15),
Open Lock +1 (14), Search +1 (14), Spot +1 (15), UMD +1 (6)
Feats Selected: Great Cleave
Enhancements Selected: Repair Manipulation V,
Reconstructive Spellcasting IV, Repair Manipulation VI
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LEVEL 16:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 12 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
Abilities Raised: STR: 21
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +1 (16),
Open Lock +1 (15), Search +1 (15), Spot +1 (16), UMD +1 (7)
Feats Selected: Improved Precise Shot
Enhancements Selected: Mighty Reconstruction IV,
Artificer Damage Boost III
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LEVEL 17:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 13 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +2 (18),
Open Lock +1 (16), Search +1 (16), Spot +1 (17)
Enhancements Selected: Repair Manipulation VII,
Artificer Damage Boost IV
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LEVEL 18:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 14 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +2 (20),
Open Lock +1 (17), Search +1 (17), Spot +1 (18)
Feats Selected: Stunning Blow
Enhancements Selected: Reconstructive Spellcasting V
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LEVEL 19:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 15 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +1 (21),
Open Lock +1 (18), Search +1 (18), Spot +1 (19), UMD +1 (8)
Enhancements Selected: Warforged Tactics III
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LEVEL 20:
Class Selected: Artificer (Artificer 16 / Monk 2 / Ranger 2)
Abilities Raised: DEX: 20
Skills Ranks Raised: Disable Device +1 (22),
Open Lock +1 (19), Search +1 (19), Spot +1 (20), UMD +1 (9)
Feats Selected: Mithril Body
Enhancements Selected: Mighty Reconstruction V
Stats at End of Level 20:
HP:320 SP:550 AC:21 FORT:20 REFL:16 WILL:13 BAB:+15/+15/+20/+25
STR:21(+5) DEX:20(+5) CON:22(+6) INT:13(+1) WIS:11(0) CHA:11(0)
Balance:7, Bluff:1, Concentration:9, Diplomacy:1, Disable Device:24,
Haggle:6, Heal:1, Hide:6, Intimidate:1, Jump:14, Listen:4,
Move Silently:6, Open Lock:25, Perform: n/a, Repair:2,
Search:21, Spot:21, Swim:9, Tumble: n/a, UMD:10

[Lurzifer]

Postpone manyshot for a bit and get great cleave earlier, manyshot isnt uselful unless u have a BAB of at least 11 since there u get the third arrow, at 16 BAB u get the fourth arrow.

You put 2 points into Con even though starting with 17 and +3 tome, you only need 21 for Epic Toughness, that lvl 20 point in Dex i don really get either. Put those to Strength.
You can even out odd Dex and Con easliy with the enhancements of WF and Ranger.

Drop Stunning Blow its not good enough for EE content, even with max possible achievable Juggernaut DC of 60 (more if u count very shortterm non sustainable stuff).
I recommend Precision instead.

I would also start with odd int if your Int tome is odd as well. starting with 9 or 11 Int seems better, maybe 11 Int 7 Cha.

Lvl 21 should be overwhelming Crit and 24 Epic toughness.

Aside those notes it looks solid.

[smokinwrek]

Thank you very much, Lurzifer!

[voxson5]

What would you recommend for equipment; levels 20-22?

Currently @ 20 & using the following:
Head : Minos
Neck : silver flame talisman
Trinket : voice/greater nimble/greater stalwart
Cloak : con-opp & hp GS
Gloves : unsuppressed Titan gloves
Ring 1 : tumbleweed
Ring 2 : thamors(sp?), no extra effect (had a booboo with dopant :/ )
Bracers : ethereal with 12prr
Googles : triple air with sp GS
Docent : DT with +5 resistance, corrosive salt, freezing ice

Have EH neither grasps, str of sup parry bracers, boots (name?) striding/dex/dex & stoneheart (con)

Edit - no other epic gear due to tr addiction

[tiipeJii]

What would you recommend for equipment; levels 20-22?

Currently @ 20 & using the following:
Head : Minos
Neck : silver flame talisman
Trinket : voice/greater nimble/greater stalwart
Cloak : con-opp & hp GS
Gloves : unsuppressed Titan gloves
Ring 1 : tumbleweed
Ring 2 : thamors(sp?), no extra effect (had a booboo with dopant :/ )
Bracers : ethereal with 12prr
Googles : triple air with sp GS
Docent : DT with +5 resistance, corrosive salt, freezing ice

Have EH neither grasps, str of sup parry bracers, boots (name?) striding/dex/dex & stoneheart (con)

Edit - no other epic gear due to tr addiction

I am using PDK helmet & gloves and gemstone upgraded as part of set. And sun soul bracers. Would also recommend a recon item. lvl 23 currently.

[voxson5]

I am using PDK helmet & gloves and gemstone upgraded as part of set. And sun soul bracers. Would also recommend a recon item. lvl 23 currently.

Gemstone seems like a nice upgrade, and the set seems nice too.
Where are you slotting your fortification item?

My min2's have +2 insightful con, so for the time being I have that covered.

I have 84? Repair SP & greater repair lore + auto repair on the unsuppressed Titan gloves (and +6 str & clicky, it's been a good item for this life actually).

I like the bracers for the sup parrying & would give back an even WIS score, might have to do a bit of grinding

Cheers

[tiipeJii]

Gemstone seems like a nice upgrade, and the set seems nice too.
Where are you slotting your fortification item?

My min2's have +2 insightful con, so for the time being I have that covered.

I have 84? Repair SP & greater repair lore + auto repair on the unsuppressed Titan gloves (and +6 str & clicky, it's been a good item for this life actually).

I like the bracers for the sup parrying & would give back an even WIS score, might have to do a bit of grinding

Cheers

Just using a heavy fort belt atm.

[Forzah]

Just using a heavy fort belt atm.

Maybe if you have some old epic gear with a blue/green slot, or if you craft an epic spare hand you can slot heavy fort there.

[Symerith]

Man, that's what a real juggernaut looks like!

(had to cut it as it was a 6mb picture stupid fraps!)

[bergeau09]

Man, that's what a real juggernaut looks like!

(had to cut it as it was a 6mb picture stupid fraps!)

TWF Juggs? Pffffft!

[Jasparion]

Thelanis Juggernaut Branch visiting Suulomades

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Eo5pM7gN0

12 Arties and it took you 3 minutes to get the traps done???

Awesome video. I also liked it when you brought up the stats and EDs.

But most of all, well done on Bat Exterminator !

[Lurzifer]

[Bacab]

Thelanis Juggernaut Branch visiting Suulomades

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Eo5pM7gN0

Grats on Bat Exterminator IV!

[moo_cow]

First of all, Great build I have enjoyed playing it so far, I love the combination of ranged and melee much more than just being a melee. Question though, I believe I read somewhere that you said you usually only use a bow on red names when you have manyshot loaded. But, I also noticed that you use Precise shot and Improved Precise shot. I'm just wondering if you now use your bow every time manyshot is ready or have found quests where the feats are more useable, like tor for instance where you can try and line up the dragon and giant. I'm just really curious cause I was wondering if I would be better off picking up 2 other feats or if you just didn't have much to choose from for feats.