The Juggernaut - Prime of the Warforged

**Symerith** · 03-12-2013, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Lurzifer

New Video is up with our current Setup, five Juggernauts and the Juggernauts little Helper aka Eth

Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVIPEpti6DE

Small correction

4 Juggernauts, 1 Jacque-er-naut and our lackey the bard ^^

**Machination** · 03-13-2013, 03:08 AM

Sith did you break down and build a jugg too?

Maybe I should move doof over to thelanis and join the jugg party.

Originally Posted by Symerith

Small correction

4 Juggernauts, 1 Jacque-er-naut and our lackey the bard ^^

**SEMPER** · 03-13-2013, 03:26 AM

Since you dropped IPS would you change anything on your starting stats since your dex doesn't have to be so high ?

**Dragonela** · 03-13-2013, 04:49 AM

This is my take on 2Monk/2Ranger/16Arti, 34 points build without access to +4 tomes, any pointers appreciated:

Code:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.16.01
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Level 25 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(2 Monk \ 2 Ranger \ 16 Artificer \ 5 Epic) 
Hit Points: 490
Spell Points: 1015 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 15
Will: 12

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 25)
Strength             16                    23
Dexterity            16                    19
Constitution         17                    23
Intelligence         14                    16
Wisdom                6                     8
Charisma              6                     8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 25)
Balance               3                    24
Concentration         3                    36
Disable Device        6                    32
Jump                  4                    20
Open Lock             7                    15
Search                6                    32
Spot                  2                    28
Use Magic Device      2                    32

Level 1 (Artificer)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 7 (Artificer)


Level 8 (Artificer)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 9 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 10 (Artificer)


Level 11 (Artificer)


Level 12 (Artificer)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Artificer)


Level 14 (Artificer)


Level 15 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot


Level 16 (Artificer)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Improved Precise Shot


Level 17 (Artificer)


Level 18 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Precision


Level 19 (Artificer)


Level 20 (Artificer)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Artificer Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Artificer Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Artificer Damage Boost III
Enhancement: Artificer Damage Boost IV
Enhancement: Artificer Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Artificer Extra Action Boost II
Enhancement: Artificer Crossbow Attack I
Enhancement: Artificer Crossbow Damage I
Enhancement: Artificer Battle Engineer I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV
Enhancement: Improved Use Magic Device I
Enhancement: Improved Use Magic Device II
Enhancement: Improved Use Magic Device III
Enhancement: Improved Use Magic Device IV
Enhancement: Reconstructive Spellcasting I
Enhancement: Reconstructive Spellcasting II
Enhancement: Reconstructive Spellcasting III
Enhancement: Reconstructive Spellcasting IV
Enhancement: Reconstructive Spellcasting V
Enhancement: Mighty Reconstruction I
Enhancement: Mighty Reconstruction II
Enhancement: Mighty Reconstruction III
Enhancement: Mighty Reconstruction IV
Enhancement: Mighty Reconstruction V
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation I
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation II
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation III
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation V
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation VI
Enhancement: Repair Manipulation VII
Enhancement: Artificer Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Artificer Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Artificer Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Artificer Wand and Scroll Mastery IV
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III


Level 21 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Artificer)


Level 23 (Artificer)


Level 24 (Artificer)
Ability Raise: CON
Feat: (Selected) Epic Toughness


Level 25 (Artificer)

**Azaghan** · 03-13-2013, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by Dragonela

This is my take on 2Monk/2Ranger/16Arti, 34 points build without access to +4 tomes, any pointers appreciated:

I just finished a build like yours on the planner, it is amazingly close to it, differences are:

1) I have a 36 pt built so I raised CON to 18, otherwise stats are identical

2) You don't need WF:Ranged for any pre-req, I took Mithral Body instead (my feat order is slightly different)

3) Enhancements: UMD is already high enough, so, I took no ranks at Improved UMD. Also, I don't think you need the full repair crit chance / crit multi line, 7/1/1 should be fine. That leaves space for extra SP via the energy line and some small ranger benefits like sprint boost and favored damage I.

**Lurzifer** · 03-13-2013, 05:49 AM

Yea wouldnt change anything on the starting stats, high dex is superb for the reflex save.

Will update the OP on the weekend for the current version of the build, with new gear layout etc.

**amnota** · 03-13-2013, 06:45 AM

Here's what I have come up with
This will be a LR from lvl 25 Completionist...have I missed anything?....eAGA to start with..+4 tomes for str and dex will be added when possible
I have all the ED's needed

Code:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.16.01
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Level 25 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(2 Monk \ 2 Ranger \ 16 Artificer \ 5 Epic) 
Hit Points: 435
Spell Points: 1147 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 16
Will: 15

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 25)
Strength             16                    26
Dexterity            16                    21
Constitution         17                    23
Intelligence         12                    18
Wisdom                8                    14
Charisma              8                    14

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 25)
Balance               3                    11
Bluff                -1                    10
Concentration         3                    14
Diplomacy            -1                    10
Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
Haggle               -1                    10
Heal                 -1                    10
Hide                  3                    11
Intimidate           -1                    10
Jump                  3                    14
Listen               -1                    10
Move Silently         3                    11
Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                    15
Search                1                    15
Spot                 -1                    10
Swim                  3                    12
Tumble                n/a                  n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                   13

Level 1 (Artificer)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Druid
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 4 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 7 (Artificer)


Level 8 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Point Blank Shot


Level 9 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 10 (Artificer)


Level 11 (Artificer)


Level 12 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Artificer)


Level 14 (Artificer)


Level 15 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Completionist


Level 16 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Mithral Body


Level 17 (Artificer)


Level 18 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot


Level 19 (Artificer)


Level 20 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Improved Precise Shot


Level 21 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Artificer)


Level 23 (Artificer)


Level 24 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Epic Toughness
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 25 (Artificer)

**Lurzifer** · 03-13-2013, 06:51 AM

Yea u have a feat too much, the lvl 24 Bonus Artificer feat is not possible

So you have to choose between other feats what to drop for quicken.

**amnota** · 03-13-2013, 06:54 AM

I thought something was hinky..thnx

IPS goes away

**Symerith** · 03-13-2013, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by Machination

Sith did you break down and build a jugg too?

Maybe I should move doof over to thelanis and join the jugg party.

I had a failed LR the other day, so it was either "be gimped for a week" or "do a TR".
I told Haek to give me a number (58) and to /roll d100. If the roll was higher than his number I'd TR into a jug.
He rolled 59

With a guildie we both TRed into jugs (Haedo now has 2 capped & geared jugs!).
Even had time to solo EEDA with the jug build as you can see here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opwYKdi4YnU

**Machination** · 03-13-2013, 08:47 AM

well I love mine and thank Haek as much as I can for the original build.. Its just a really fun thing to play. I've been tempted to TR rTFM to one but you know how I am about pure builds so keeping him as a gimp'd FVS shiradi thing for the time being....lmao

Originally Posted by Symerith

I had a failed LR the other day, so it was either "be gimped for a week" or "do a TR".
I told Haek to give me a number (58) and to /roll d100. If the roll was higher than his number I'd TR into a jug.
He rolled 59

With a guildie we both TRed into jugs (Haedo now has 2 capped & geared jugs!).
Even had time to solo EEDA with the jug build as you can see here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opwYKdi4YnU

**Dragonela** · 03-13-2013, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Azaghan

I just finished a build like yours on the planner, it is amazingly close to it, differences are:

1) I have a 36 pt built so I raised CON to 18, otherwise stats are identical

2) You don't need WF:Ranged for any pre-req, I took Mithral Body instead (my feat order is slightly different)

3) Enhancements: UMD is already high enough, so, I took no ranks at Improved UMD. Also, I don't think you need the full repair crit chance / crit multi line, 7/1/1 should be fine. That leaves space for extra SP via the energy line and some small ranger benefits like sprint boost and favored damage I.

Thanks, I didnt know if i would had enough UMD to do nofail Heals and Res scrolls mainly because dumping CHA but i guess we will find out at lvl 20

.
Good idea bout Mithral Body, it should help on low levels.

PS: Thank you Lurzifer for the amazing build idea!

**Azaghan** · 03-14-2013, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by Dragonela

Thanks, I didnt know if i would had enough UMD to do nofail Heals and Res scrolls mainly because dumping CHA but i guess we will find out at lvl 20

.
Good idea bout Mithral Body, it should help on low levels.

PS: Thank you Lurzifer for the amazing build idea!

To be honest, I assumed some gear in order to reach a 40+ umd without the enhancement.

I was thinking 23 ranks, 5 epic, 0 CHA (6 base + 4 tome), 2 good luck, 3 spare hand, 5 GreenSteel item, +1 Arti, that gives you 39 which allows you to cast GH scrolls, then you have 43. Some CHA could be slotted on a colorless slot I guess to add another +3.

**WruntJunior** · 03-14-2013, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by Azaghan

To be honest, I assumed some gear in order to reach a 40+ umd without the enhancement.

I was thinking 23 ranks, 5 epic, 0 CHA (6 base + 4 tome), 2 good luck, 3 spare hand, 5 GreenSteel item, +1 Arti, that gives you 39 which allows you to cast GH scrolls, then you have 43. Some CHA could be slotted on a colorless slot I guess to add another +3.

Keep in mind you only need 37 on an arty for level 6 scrolls.

**Kantx** · 03-15-2013, 12:45 AM

Hi all.

I think this is pretty similar to what some others have - just wanted to be sure I wasn't screwing anything up terribly if I follow the build below.

I have most of the gear needed once I cap - primarily missing pinion.

I was planning on doing the Pally version, even though the ranger seems generally preferred now, as I'm TR'ing a first life monk into this build, and it seems like the Ranger version tends to be used by people with extensive past lives. If I shouldnt worry about it and should still go for the Ranger version, let me know.

Also, regarding levling - I have a Carnifex for lower lvls, and a base SoS for higher - is the difference between SoS and a Lit II falchion enough that it's worth crafting the Lit II? Or will the SoS carry me through? (I likely have the mats for a Lit II, but if I could use them instead to expand my displace clickie quiver, I would).

edit: oh, and as far as I know there's no bonus at 24, so mithral body is out there. Is mithral useful enough that I should dump one of the other feats?

Hoping I embedded the build text correctly:

Code:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.16.01
DDO Character Planner Home Page

Kantaox juggbuild
Level 25 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(2 Paladin \ 2 Monk \ 16 Artificer \ 5 Epic) 
Hit Points: 404
Spell Points: 1015 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 15
Will: 15

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 25)
Strength             16                    24
Dexterity            14                    18
Constitution         17                    21
Intelligence         12                    16
Wisdom                6                     9
Charisma             12                    15

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 10
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 10
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 10
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 10
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 10
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 10
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 25)
Balance               2                    22
Bluff                 1                     8
Concentration         5                    20
Diplomacy             1                     8
Disable Device        5                    30.5
Haggle                1                     8
Heal                 -2                     5
Hide                  2                     8
Intimidate            1                     8
Jump                  3                    21
Listen               -2                     5
Move Silently         2                     8
Open Lock             6                    14
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     9
Search                5                    30.5
Spot                 -2                     8
Swim                  3                     9
Tumble                3                     9
Use Magic Device      5                    30

Level 1 (Artificer)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 7 (Artificer)


Level 8 (Artificer)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Point Blank Shot


Level 9 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot


Level 10 (Artificer)


Level 11 (Artificer)


Level 12 (Artificer)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 13 (Artificer)


Level 14 (Artificer)


Level 15 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 16 (Artificer)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 17 (Artificer)


Level 18 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Bow Strength


Level 19 (Artificer)


Level 20 (Artificer)
Ability Raise: CON
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Precise Shot


Level 21 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Artificer)


Level 23 (Artificer)


Level 24 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Epic Toughness
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Mithral Body


Level 25 (Artificer)

Thanks for the blueprint Haek, and for the in-game advice, and thanks to all for any and all feedback.

Kant(x)
Thelanis

**SirTeo** · 03-15-2013, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by Symerith

Small correction

4 Juggernauts, 1 Jacque-er-naut and our lackey the bard ^^

That music guys.... hahaha

glad to see you guys r enjoying yourselfs ^^

**Lurzifer** · 03-15-2013, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by Kantx

Hi all.

I think this is pretty similar to what some others have - just wanted to be sure I wasn't screwing anything up terribly if I follow the build below.

I have most of the gear needed once I cap - primarily missing pinion.

I was planning on doing the Pally version, even though the ranger seems generally preferred now, as I'm TR'ing a first life monk into this build, and it seems like the Ranger version tends to be used by people with extensive past lives. If I shouldnt worry about it and should still go for the Ranger version, let me know.

Also, regarding levling - I have a Carnifex for lower lvls, and a base SoS for higher - is the difference between SoS and a Lit II falchion enough that it's worth crafting the Lit II? Or will the SoS carry me through? (I likely have the mats for a Lit II, but if I could use them instead to expand my displace clickie quiver, I would).

edit: oh, and as far as I know there's no bonus at 24, so mithral body is out there. Is mithral useful enough that I should dump one of the other feats?

Hoping I embedded the build text correctly:

Code:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.16.01
DDO Character Planner Home Page
 
Kantaox juggbuild
Level 25 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(2 Paladin \ 2 Monk \ 16 Artificer \ 5 Epic) 
Hit Points: 404
Spell Points: 1015 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 15
Will: 15
 
                 Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 25)
Strength             16                    24
Dexterity            14                    18
Constitution         17                    21
Intelligence         12                    16
Wisdom                6                     9
Charisma             12                    15
 
Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 2
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 6
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 6
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 6
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 6
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 6
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 10
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 10
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 10
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 10
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 10
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 10
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 14
 
                 Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 25)
Balance               2                    22
Bluff                 1                     8
Concentration         5                    20
Diplomacy             1                     8
Disable Device        5                    30.5
Haggle                1                     8
Heal                 -2                     5
Hide                  2                     8
Intimidate            1                     8
Jump                  3                    21
Listen               -2                     5
Move Silently         2                     8
Open Lock             6                    14
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     9
Search                5                    30.5
Spot                 -2                     8
Swim                  3                     9
Tumble                3                     9
Use Magic Device      5                    30
 
Level 1 (Artificer)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
 
 
Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
 
 
Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
 
 
Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
 
 
Level 5 (Paladin)
 
 
Level 6 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
 
 
Level 7 (Artificer)
 
 
Level 8 (Artificer)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Point Blank Shot
 
 
Level 9 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot
 
 
Level 10 (Artificer)
 
 
Level 11 (Artificer)
 
 
Level 12 (Artificer)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Quicken Spell
 
 
Level 13 (Artificer)
 
 
Level 14 (Artificer)
 
 
Level 15 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
 
 
Level 16 (Artificer)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
 
 
Level 17 (Artificer)
 
 
Level 18 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Bow Strength
 
 
Level 19 (Artificer)
 
 
Level 20 (Artificer)
Ability Raise: CON
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Precise Shot
 
 
Level 21 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Overwhelming Critical
 
 
Level 22 (Artificer)
 
 
Level 23 (Artificer)
 
 
Level 24 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Epic Toughness
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Mithral Body
 
 
Level 25 (Artificer)

Thanks for the blueprint Haek, and for the in-game advice, and thanks to all for any and all feedback.

Kant(x)
Thelanis

Howdy,

u have to watch out, u have chosen 2 feats for lvl 24 where u in fact only get one. That bonus Artificer feat wont apply there.

So you have one feat less total. Would drop Mihtral Body although it is superb for looks and some PRR :P

Ranger version is better since u have 3 more feats to play with

Haek

**Forzah** · 03-15-2013, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by Lurzifer

Howdy,

u have to watch out, u have chosen 2 feats for lvl 24 where u in fact only get one. That bonus Artificer feat wont apply there.

So you have one feat less total. Would drop Mihtral Body although it is superb for looks and some PRR :P

Ranger version is better since u have 3 more feats to play with

Haek

It's hard to get 50 reflex saves without twisting in magister on the ranger version...

**Lurzifer** · 03-15-2013, 06:21 AM

Well its not really that hard, i mean i have 50 with brace for impact.
Paladin version has better saves ofc, but the gain of 3 feats kinda trumps it ^^

Lots of people miss one or two of the sources for saves, so here they are:

+6-8 Resistance Bonus
+2 Good Luck
+4 Greater Heroism
+1 Eldritch Ritual
+4 Superior Parrying
+Tensers (+2 Fort and Reflex)
+Primal Scream (+2-3 Fort + 4 Will When u have Tunnel Vision)

Various kinds of useful saves from Destinies:
Tier 1: Draconic Vitality +6 Fort no fail on 1, impregnable Mind +6 will no fail on 1, brace for impact +2 to all +40% fort, unearthly reactions +6 reflex +3dodge

tier 4: Perfection of Mind +6 will +6 additional will against enchantments, fear etc no fail on 1, so basically +12. Very useful for some quests with High DC casters spamming disco, fear or if youre fleshie Hold monster.

Now if u consider u need a 19 base dex on ranger for IPS, then u can go up to:
19 base + 1 enhancement + 1 exceptional + 3 Insight + 8 dex + 2 ship + 4 tensers = 38 dex
40 if youre a completionist.

So with base reflex of 13 + 14 dex + 7 resistance + 1 ritual + 4 superior parry + 2 good luck + 4 GH + 1 haste armor + 2 Epic levels + 2 brace = 50.
If u use uneartly reactions you are sitting on 54.

Getting the saves is not the problem, especially since you dont need the bracers or glove for healing amp

**tiipeJii** · 03-15-2013, 10:26 AM

Thanks for a great build. Loving my ranger version so far. 200k xp to lvl 20 on my 1st completionist life and can not wait for epic levels.

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