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[Kinerd]

Again, it seems as though you're imagining that every attack is a DS.

This really stood out to me. I specifically say DS occurs one sixth of the time, and you respond that I'm "imagining that every attack is a DS"? I mean, what am I supposed to say to this? I have already said how frequently it happens and you have ignored me saying that. What should I do?

Also, there is no reason not to be using holy handwraps of bleeding at basically all times on a TR. How would those compare to the "crappy scimitars" you are imagining?

If you've got Holy of Bleed on tap, you can just as easily craft scims as wraps.

First, just because paladins can self-heal does not mean that they don't benefit from greater survivability. A benefit is a benefit.

A benefit is a benefit, but a benefit can be superfluous. If you have 1000 HP, you are unlikely to be seriously enthused by the Argo 10 HP thingie, because it is superfluous. If you are holding a beautiful rose, you are unlikely to be seriously enthused by the prospect of gilding, because it is superfluous. If you have a paladin's self-healing, you are unlikely to be seriously enthused by the prospect of even more self-healing, because it is superfluous.

Also, there is that apparently negligible consideration of the 50% increased damage and sneak attack that you get on stunned mobs.

Again, I said "one of its serious bonuses". You should infer from this that there are other serious bonuses. If you choose not to make that inference, that's on you, not me.

I mean, at this point you may as well declare that I claimed scimitars are auto-crit. It would be about as accurate, and leave me about as disappointed.

[whomhead]

This really stood out to me. I specifically say DS occurs one sixth of the time, and you respond that I'm "imagining that every attack is a DS"? I mean, what am I supposed to say to this? I have already said how frequently it happens and you have ignored me saying that. What should I do?

I said that it "seems like," similar to your "may be" from earlier, because that is in fact the way it seems to me. It seems to me that you see the benefit of DS on 1/6 attacks, and then don't really bother with whatever happens on the other 5/6. So yeah, you are totally right that you get more on 1/6 with scimitars. But you get the benefits of wraps on 6/6 attacks.

Also, I would point out that that is the absolute maximum benefit you can get out of DS. If you are just a bit slow at not reactivating it every moment it is off timer, then it is more like 1 in 7 or 8, realistically. Wraps are always faster and stronger without any input from the user, though if the user does care to activate a ki strike on each of those 6 attacks, then you're already ahead of the 5d6 from DS.

A benefit is a benefit, but a benefit can be superfluous. If you have 1000 HP, you are unlikely to be seriously enthused by the Argo 10 HP thingie, because it is superfluous. If you are holding a beautiful rose, you are unlikely to be seriously enthused by the prospect of gilding, because it is superfluous. If you have a paladin's self-healing, you are unlikely to be seriously enthused by the prospect of even more self-healing, because it is superfluous.

I can't believe that you're comparing stunning fist to draconic vitality... There is quite literally nothing about stunning fist that I find superfluous. All I can say about the rest is that I'm seriously enthused about the prospect of killing stuff, and doing it faster. In that department, stunning fist is aces.

I mean, at this point you may as well declare that I claimed scimitars are auto-crit. It would be about as accurate, and leave me about as disappointed.

Hyperbole, much? I am terribly sorry to have disappointed you. I hope that feeling is mutual.