Risia Ice Games

[Azithoth]

i wish they would realize when to just leave things alone

[Xynot2]

I have the old ice on a total of 3 weapons. Never found it extremely useful or something I must have. Never found it worth the time except my first Risa when it was new and shiny to me. Now I just collect what I can and sell it all. especially the recipes.

[phillymiket]

Side question

Are we allowed to discuss Lam on the regular forums?

I can't recall if that was always disallowed or just durring new content.
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[ThreeEyedBob]

Side question

Are we allowed to discuss Lam on the regular forums?

I can't recall if that was always disallowed or just durring new content.
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Well its highly relevant to the game so I dont see why not. There was no mention of this on the Lammania forums though.

This kind of thing reminds me of the Reconstruct nerf they tried to slide in and caused an outcry. It's not of the same magnitude offcourse, but its a completely unnecessary nerf of something that has a miniscule impact in gameplay compared to the negative impact on the community.

[EllisDee37]

It is ridiculous that risia rituals add to the ML. That was the sum total of their appeal, not adding to ML. I can just use cannith crafting to raise the ML.

Hey, is it exploitable? Cannith crafting caps at ML20. If risia now adds levels cannith-crafting style, does that mean if I add risia icy burst to my +6 holy burst of superior bloodletting (ML25) it will get capped down to ML20?

Hopefully this is the case, as that would at least motivate them to undo this epic fail. Seriously, devs, way to completely miss the point.

[Dawnsfire]

If it stays that way, I guess it will save me time and money.

[EllisDee37]

I think this deserves a thread with the nerf mentioned in the thread title.

Also, if it adds to ML we should be able to apply risia to crafted gear.

[MrkGrismer]

Side question

Are we allowed to discuss Lam on the regular forums?

I can't recall if that was always disallowed or just durring new content.
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From past experience you are allowed to discus Lam, but a lot of time they will move the thread to the Lam forums, as that is were discussion about Lam perhaps more properly belongs. A lot of times with stuff like this it is better to bring it up on Lam as it seems to get more developer attention, and when a thread about a change 'goes epic' sometimes they change it to something else (not necessarily better).

[nikos1313]

2/1/2013 and we already know whats the worst thing in DDO this year...

at least, lets hope this will be the only bad thing..

EDIT: i guess it will not affect the weapons that already have the effect on them, right?!

[badbob117]

That's no fun at all if it raises the level of items. Ugh. Way to kill a fest!

[Karadon_II]

Actually don't I recall that during the last Ice Games, that the text which says something like "adding this modification will raise the items minimum level by +4" or whatever but it actually didn't raise the level when you applied the ritual?

[Dawnsfire]

EDIT: i guess it will not affect the weapons that already have the effect on them, right?!

They have grandfathered things like this before but I'm not certain it will happen this time.

[Eighnuss]

No nerfation without representation. Boycott ice games, embargo ddo store.

Let us fill Boston Harbor once more- not with Tea, but with Motes of Winter

[Azithoth]

[teh_meh]

No nerfation without representation.

We the eighnusses of eberron, in order to form a more perfect...

[FestusHood]

I think this deserves a thread with the nerf mentioned in the thread title.

Also, if it adds to ML we should be able to apply risia to crafted gear.

That would be a fair trade. Or add it to named gear as well, like the alchemical rituals.

Have to agree this is a very poor change. One of my favorite things to do was find an ml 8 plus 5 weapon and put an icy burst onto it. If the recipes add to the ml, then i might just as well get a lootgen icy burst weapon.

Icy burst was really the only reason to get purple coins. Some of the potions are nice, but you can get those with the blue coins. I was planning on showing some of my friends how to do the jumps this year, but if this change goes through i will tell them not to bother.

I suspect this might not be WAI. Wasn't there a time that alchemical rituals were adding to the ml of items, when they weren't supposed to? This seems most likely to me.

On a side note, are the glaciation rituals also adding to the ml of items? Because that would make them useless as well.

I'm betting this is not WAI.

[Dawnsfire]

The only weapons I am thinking about bursting now is my lvl 25 melee bard. I mean it can not increase a weapon's level above 25 right?

[Purgatory]

Leave it to Turbine to turn something cool and fun into a heaping pile of dung...

[MartinusWyllt]

ML increase not retroactive, at least not currently on lam. Same ML as before.

[FestusHood]

The only weapons I am thinking about bursting now is my lvl 25 melee bard. I mean it can not increase a weapon's level above 25 right?

ooh, what if it did? the only character that could use it would be a tier 2 or higher water savant.