Gear suggestions for thfing pally.

[Varashad]

Information: Paladin 20, human, LD(5), DoS PrE, favoring a mixture of DPS and survivability for soloing. Damage is preferable to surviving though.

Feats: Toughness, Two Handed Fighting, ITHFing, GTHFing, Cleave, Great Cleave, Overwhelming Critical, Improved Critical: Slashing, Tower Shield, and Power Attack.

Planned gear:

Helm: PDK
Necklace: +45 HP GS
Trinket: +3 exceptional str
Cloak: +6 cha skills, +sp GS
Belt: +6 con, gfl
Rings: Dun'robar +7 str, +8 cha of +6 natural armor
Boots: Falling Shadow
Gloves: PDK or eClaw
Bracers: Leviks or eClaw
Armor: Embrace of the Spider Queen(+8 con)
Goggles: Tharnes for no aggro, Drow Smoke for with agro
Weapon: eSoS/Cannith Crafted


Stats(With assumed gear equipped)
Str: 16 base +6 levels + 2 tome +7 item +3 exceptional +6 stance = 40
Dex: 10 base +7 item +3 exceptional = 20
Con: 16 base +2 tome +8 item +6 stance = 32
Int: 8 base
Wis: 8 base +2 tome +4 owl wisdom = 14
Cha: 16 base +2 tome +2 enhancement +8 item = 28

Enhancements:
Pally Armor Class I(79 AP)
Capstone(77 AP)
Unyielding Soveriengty + Follower of the Host(71 AP)
Human Adaptability Cha(69 AP)
Human Heal Amp I(67 AP)
Versatility II(64 AP)
Courage I(63 AP)
Armor III(57 AP)
Saves III(51 AP)
Concentration I(50 AP)
DM III(44 AP)
Sacrifice III(38 AP)
Exalted Smite III(32 AP)
Extra LoH(26 AP)
Extra Smite IV(16 AP)
Defender III(8 AP)
Toughness(2 AP)
Pally Cha(0 AP)

Thoughts?

[boredman]

Some other items you may consider are the Lenses of the Woodsman (googles with seeker + attack bonus + ts) , Seal of house avithoul (to replace tharnes googles + improved deception), Cloak of night lvl 24 or adamantine cloak of the wolf or bear, bracers of twisting shade or convalescent of superior parrying, epic mask of comedy, epic spare hand or a gs item of smoke or cooncordant oposition or the mineral II.

[Varashad]

Some other items you may consider are the Lenses of the Woodsman (googles with seeker + attack bonus + ts) , Seal of house avithoul (to replace tharnes googles + improved deception), Cloak of night lvl 24 or adamantine cloak of the wolf or bear, bracers of twisting shade or convalescent of superior parrying, epic mask of comedy, epic spare hand or a gs item of smoke or cooncordant oposition or the mineral II.

Lenses of the Woodsman are good; I'll definitely get a set for when the mob has fort(golems, undead) or when I have agro(bosses).

Seal of House Avithoul isn't bad, and could probably replace my Dun'Robar ring, since I forgot that my dodge will be capped at 3% by my armor's dex mod. How good is improved deception on a non rogue though? And does it proc often enough to make it worth while even while tanking/having agro?

Cloak of Night is amazing!; the DR, Deathblock, Ghostly and Dodge are all excellent for this build, and will definitely be sought after as soon as Mabar returns! I will probably stick with random loot gen cloaks for a while. No sense in wasting time and mats to make an item I'll replace.

Bracers of Twisting Shade slipped my mind, and are simply exceptional. They will be slotted for certain.

Spare Hand is good, but not for this build. Mask of Comedy is not worth the slot over the PDK helm imo. More green steel is possibly good, but I can't think of anywhere else really to slot it.


Helm: PDK
Necklace: +45 HP GS
Trinket: +3 exceptional str
Cloak: Cloak of Night(level 24)
Belt: +6 con, gfl
Rings: +8 cha of +6 natural armor, Seal of House Avithoul(+7 dex)
Boots: Falling Shadow
Gloves: PDK
Bracers: Twisting Shade/30% heal amp of superior parry
Armor: Embrace of the Spider Queen(+8 con)
Goggles: Tharnes for no aggro, Drow Smoke/Woodsman for with agro
Weapon: eSoS/Cannith Crafted

This is what my approach now looks like roughly. The lack of an SP green steel item and +6 cha skills is annoying, but I suppose I could always use the cloak as a swap in for when I need to UMD stuff or use the clicky.

[me_TOO]

Try this:

Helm: PDK; Store rabbit hat (+5 jump +3 UMD while scrolling, and its less ugly than the PDK helmet )
Necklace: +45 HP GS smoke(perma blur)/displacement x2
Trinket: +3 exceptional str
Cloak: Adamantine Cloak of the Wolf Except seeker +5 Dodge 4% Attack bonus +4 Diversion 20%
Belt: Epic Spare Hand: Blue Slot Good Luck; colorless except stat+1 future proofing
Rings: +8 cha of +6 natural armor, Ring of the Stalker (GFL yellow slot, +6 dexcolorless slot/future proofing for new augments) Seeker 6, manslayer except sneak +3
Boots: Boots of the Rock (yellow slot, colorless slot) you could put death ward here but dont need it on a pally (deathward > deathblock imo) or Resistance +4 if you are worried about your saves which you shouldnt on a pally...better to have the slots for the future; Cannith Boots of propulsion
Gloves: PDK
Bracers: GS Concordant OP Wisdom+6, wiz6, SP, cha skills +5, int skills +1
Armor: Embrace of the Spider Queen(+8 con)
Goggles: Tharnes
Weapon: eSoS metalline slotted there is no other weapon a paladin needs besides maybe a Fury of the Flame Maul for Blunt Undead DR breaker

You gain Concord Op; GS Spell points; cha skills +5; Manslayer; Diversion 20% essential for not gaining agro while getting the most from your Sneak attack bonuses while maintaining a +4 to hit w/o swapping goggles; +6 wisdom (you didnt have a wisdom item slotted to cast spels); Immunity to slippery surfaces; Insightful Con+2; Stone Prison and earth grab guard; inherent acid +10 and a couple of Slots to take advantage of the upcoming augement revamp and you dont have to wait til halloween to get your cloak and you dont need to swap gear except your boots situationally UMD and saves +2 from good luck, Double stike 3%, Riposte (actually nice CC, and stasggering blow additional cc when it procs

You lose +4 dex which you dont really need since your AC bonus is capped at +3 ; Deathward (as stated you dont need it on a Pally like you would on a fighter);+5 resistence or +1 resistence if you use a yellow slot but saves are already a strong point for a pally; Improved deception hardly needed since you have diversion 20% you should never take agro unless its you and a rogue as the only melee and invisibility guard

Note if you havent built your GS yet I would swap slots for the necklace and Belt i listed depending on whether you use Planar gird or Draconic Necklace for GH clickies so you only lose HP when swapping for clickies.

[Hobgoblin]

can you slot something else in your belt?

gfl doesnt seem worth it

hob

[boredman]

Seal of House Avithoul isn't bad, and could probably replace my Dun'Robar ring, since I forgot that my dodge will be capped at 3% by my armor's dex mod. How good is improved deception on a non rogue though? And does it proc often enough to make it worth while even while tanking/having agro?

Spare Hand is good, but not for this build. Mask of Comedy is not worth the slot over the PDK helm imo. More green steel is possibly good, but I can't think of anywhere else really to slot it.

Improved deception works often, making the enemies turning back for moments, helping as some cc for few moments and better sneak attack proceeds, even if you have the aggro, and work on red bosses!

Epic spare hand is very good if you want to have some stunning tactics for epic normal and hard or for some casters, and also has double strike 3%, umd +3, riposte and blue and colorless slots, but if you dont use tactics can also use the ravager set (belt + ring) or a gs item on that belt slot since you only are using a loot gen there.
I use Epic mask of comedy with gfl sloted on my pally that has the Epic claw set, but if you are using Pdk set, yeah, is probably not worth.