Completionist A Feat?

[psykopeta]

I just realized that I don't believe I shared my opinion on this. I only observed the facts, and am still a little ambivalent. It's probably because I haven't bothered to set a goal to reach completionist. What do I care if it's a granted feat, though? Does it affect my gameplay? No, the game is more of a grind than it is challenging without me imposing a challenge upon myself, so why should I care if these people who dedicate capping every class get the feat for free?

When someone says the game is too easy, others say the challenge is what you make of it. When someone cries for a nerf on something, others claim that you shouldn't ruin it for those who enjoy it and rather impose a personal challenge to their game. So why should we impose a challenge against a suggestion like this?

So I say, let them have it granted. Will it break the game? No. Will it ruin the game for me, a person with no ambitions for completionist? No. Will it ruin my experience when grouping with completionists, since I see the game as more of a grind and would do anything to minimize the time to grind out the gear I want? No. Can it ruin the experience for others? No more than Epic Destinies has already done so in the Raids in the game.

+1 !!!

in fact ed are far far far far far far faster to farm (and they are the big deal/mess in raids or endgame if it exists, not for me at least)

the difference is you have to pay for ed

oh i had an idea!! completionist free for vips and feat for non vips? XDDDDD

no, i'm not a vip, but im worried about those who pay monthly for this game, so at least give em perks XD

[Inouk]

/signed

I have yet to make a character of any flavor that isn't stressing about what feats I'm skipping, even on a pure fighter. If you put in the amazing grind to be completionist you shouldn't have to sacrifice one of your super precious feats to reap your reward.

[Seb]

Melee benefits: +1 to hit and damage
Caster benefits: +1 to DCs (all schools), ~25 SP (at level 25)
Universal benefits: +25 HP (at level 25), +1 to all saves, +3 to all skills

I can't think of any build that I wouldn't take it as an active feat. I wouldn't mind if it became passive but I think it is a worthwhile feat as is, and I don't think that increasing the power of the feat is a good idea. The gap between new and experienced players is already wider than I would like.

I would much rather see the new enhancement system relieve some of the pressure regarding feat selection. This would give veteran players something new to experiment with while leveling the playing field a bit between new and old players.

[Alavatar]

I think it would be cool if, should Completionist become a granted feat, the title of the character be changed from "Legendary" to "Completionist".

[Bunker]

i think it would be cool if, should completionist become a granted feat, the title of the character be changed from "legendary" to "completionist".

+1

[Sonos]

Melee benefits: +1 to hit and damage
Caster benefits: +1 to DCs (all schools), ~25 SP (at level 25)
Universal benefits: +25 HP (at level 25), +1 to all saves, +3 to all skills

I can't think of any build that I wouldn't take it as an active feat. I wouldn't mind if it became passive but I think it is a worthwhile feat as is, and I don't think that increasing the power of the feat is a good idea. The gap between new and experienced players is already wider than I would like.

I would much rather see the new enhancement system relieve some of the pressure regarding feat selection. This would give veteran players something new to experiment with while leveling the playing field a bit between new and old players.

Again, it was asked. Which feat would you swap from a Barb or Rogue build?

[Jay203]

Again, it was asked. Which feat would you swap from a Barb or Rogue build?

that depends on the build wouldn't you say?

[Sonos]

that depends on the build wouldn't you say?

Fair enough, but my question still stands, which feat. would YOU(not Jay203 but any of YOU) swap out of a pure barb or rogue build with this feat.?
Edit: and in this case it was directed towards Seb.

And again it's hypothetical and yet it is a serious question. No one has answered it yet, I'm not saying no one will come with a legitimate answer, I just haven't seen it yet.

Melee benefits: +1 to hit and damage
Caster benefits: +1 to DCs (all schools), ~25 SP (at level 25)
Universal benefits: +25 HP (at level 25), +1 to all saves, +3 to all skills

I can't think of any build that I wouldn't take it as an active feat.

[Merlin-ator]

And the +6 to all skills.
That would mean With a +5 tomes, a +8 item a +3 insightful, +1 exceptional item and litany, a cross class toon could get up to 28 tumble with a base of 8 dex. With a base of 14 dex (before completionist bonuses) he could hit 31 and that's enough to backflip without a tumble item.

Way. Too. Powerful.

13 classes, 3 lives each = 13*3=39 lives. Assuming they bought store hearts right after hitting 20 and immediately TRed, it's 1.9 million xp for 1st life, 3,139,250 for 2nd life, and 4,387,500 for 3rd+ lives. That's a total of 1,900,000+(1*3,139,250)+37*4,387,500=167,376,750 xp

Anyone who manages that impressive feat deserves to be OP (and yes, autogranted).

[jillie]

My main (Jhanrae) is completionist (current life is 2rog/18barb); I have no toons that I plan to play through that grind again. I think that the feat should be an auto-granted one; it's less powerful than (for instance) many of the helf dilly feats, and compared with EDs, is quite underpowered.

Oh, and yes, I did have to go back and re-get the feat after they introduced the druid class.

/signed

[Alavatar]

Fair enough, but my question still stands, which feat. would YOU(not Jay203 but any of YOU) swap out of a pure barb or rogue build with this feat.?

This is a good question.

Hypothetically, lets assume a Half-Orc Pure Barbarian Frenzied Berserker with a grand total of 9 feat slots to fill. What Feats are going to be important them?

THF
iTHF
gTHF
Power Attack
Cleave
Great Cleave
Overwhelming Critical
Barbarian Active Past Life (counts as Toughness Feat)
Improved Critical
Completionist

That looks like 10 feats ... Personally, I would drop gTHF. But, I don't know many Completionists that chose Barbarian for their final life.

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Let's assume a Halfling Pure Rogue Assassin build next. Still, only 9 feat slots. I am assuming an end weapon choice of Celestia instead of Khopeshes. I would assume important feats would be:

TWF
iTWF
gTWF
Precision
Barbarian Active Past Life (counts as Toughness Feat)
Improved Critical
Dodge / Mobility / Spring Attack (for the Dodge +%)
Power Attack / Cleave / Great Cleave / Overwhelming Critical
Improved Sneak Attack
Completionist

That's up to 15 feats. I am thinking what would probably be dropped would be Mobility, Spring Attack, Power Attack, Cleave, Great Cleave, and Overwhelming Critical.

Personally, in both situations, I would rather Completionist be just auto-granted.

[Sonos]

This is a good question.

Hypothetically, lets assume a Half-Orc Pure Barbarian Frenzied Berserker with a grand total of 9 feat slots to fill. What Feats are going to be important them?

THF
iTHF
gTHF
Power Attack
Cleave
Great Cleave
Overwhelming Critical
Barbarian Active Past Life (counts as Toughness Feat)
Improved Critical
Completionist

That looks like 10 feats ... Personally, I would drop gTHF. But, I don't know many Completionists that chose Barbarian for their final life.

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Let's assume a Halfling Pure Rogue Assassin build next. Still, only 9 feat slots. I am assuming an end weapon choice of Celestia instead of Khopeshes. I would assume important feats would be:

TWF
iTWF
gTWF
Precision
Barbarian Active Past Life (counts as Toughness Feat)
Improved Critical
Dodge / Mobility / Spring Attack (for the Dodge +%)
Power Attack / Cleave / Great Cleave / Overwhelming Critical
Improved Sneak Attack
Completionist

That's up to 15 feats. I am thinking what would probably be dropped would be Mobility, Spring Attack, Power Attack, Cleave, Great Cleave, and Overwhelming Critical.

Personally, in both situations, I would rather Completionist be just auto-granted.

Thank you!

Yeah Barb, please . No offense to muh barb folk. yeah GTHF, would kinda blow to drop, considering this line could be saved with as a fighter.

I would like to see other people's solutions or comments on feat starved classes.

Auto-grant:

/still signed

[Jay203]

Fair enough, but my question still stands, which feat. would YOU(not Jay203 but any of YOU) swap out of a pure barb or rogue build with this feat.?
Edit: and in this case it was directed towards Seb.

And again it's hypothetical and yet it is a serious question. No one has answered it yet, I'm not saying no one will come with a legitimate answer, I just haven't seen it yet.

send me a list of the feat on a build via private message and i'll tell you which i'll drop (personal opinion)

[Sonos]

send me a list of the feat on a build via private message and i'll tell you which i'll drop (personal opinion)

Looks like neither you nor I play a pure barb or rogue then? I did one life of Barb, and I can tell you that the completionist feat would have been a pain to jam in there.

Again, was standing up for Rogue and Barb lovers, mostly.

Maybe you have a barb build that would fit it in?

[Jay203]

Looks like neither you nor I play a pure barb or rogue then? I did one life of Barb, and I can tell you that the completionist feat would have been a pain to jam in there.

Again, was standing up for Rogue and Barb lovers, mostly.

Maybe you have a barb build that would fit it in?

i pretty much only play custom builds that i find interesting to play
and pure barb or pure rogue just doesn't interest me XD