Build request: splashed druid

[marinerfan]

Hi all,
Just bought druid and would like to try one out for a test drive. I've seen a few interesting builds around, but all seem to be more resource intensive than I can handle. I really love heavy splash builds and don't enjoy pure 20 builds very much so I'd like some suggestions on good splashes to take on a druid.

Here's what I have available to me:
-good weapons for whatever
- all classes except arty (I think)
-all races except helf and horc
- 32 pt build
- +1/+2 tomes for most stats (if I absolutely NEED a certain stat +2 I can afford one)
- Most adventure packs if I need to farm an item or two (don't have DA or VON...maybe a few others I'm forgetting)

What I'm looking for in this build:
- Good survivability..would be nice to be able to solo normal/hard without a problem
- Either good hand to hand (like a druid/monk) or solid ranged (arcane archer of some sort?) -- or both if possible?

A few ideas I'm kicking around:
9/9/2 druid/monk/ with the 2 as pally, fighter, or MAYBE rogue if I could handle traps with the build.
8/6/6 druid/monk/ranger (archer build)
??? Other

I guess one other thing I would love help on is what kinds of feats/spells are "must-haves" for druids.
Thanks!

[Stormraiser]

Search for a build called a thousands fists, or a drunk. Both are very durable. Don't underestimate double strike.

[Elibolas]

If you are looking to test-drive the class, don't splash too much the first time.

Try this: splash two levels of monk (for Evasion and Stunning Fist). I also like HElf with Rogue Dilly for backstab. Max wis, get a quarterstaff of stunning. Charge around stunning and backstabbing everything. Wolf form with all wolfie enhancements, and your attack speed and zerging potential will be acceptable.

If the wolf animations were better, it'd be even more fun. Oh well, can't have everything.

-- Eli Bolas

[Daemoneyes]

Human 32pt Lawful Neutral
9 Monk / 9 Druid / 2 Fighter

Str 16 / Dex 14 / Con 14 / Int 8 / Wis 16 / Cha 8
ups in Str
Tomes: +2 Str needed for Overwhelming Critical, Wis/Con/Dex/Int/Cha are optional but would improve the build.
Concentration max, Balance (10 should be enough), Bluff (hopefull someday Wolfattack also uses bluff..), UMD (for Weapon/Armor restricts but not needed)

lvl class / Feats
1 Druid / normal - Human / Power Attack- free
2 Monk / Monk / Stunning Fist
3 Druid / normal - Wildshape / Cleave - Wolf
4 Druid / /
5 Druid / /
6 Monk / normal - Monk / Maximize - Toughness
7 Fighter / Fighter / Great Cleave
8 Druid / Wildshape / Bear
9 Druid / normal / Quicken
10 Druid / /
11 Druid / Wildshape / Winter Wolf
12 Druid / normal / Natural Fighting
13 Fighter / Fighter / Improved Critical Bludgeon
14 Monk / Path / Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
15 Monk / normal / Natural Fighting
16 Monk / /
17 Monk / Monk / Dodge
18 Monk / normal / Natural Fighting
19 Monk / /
20 Monk / /

Epic Feats Overwhelming Critical and Precision (atm optional, i planned it for boss dps in epics/raids dunno if it is worth)

Fitting trapping skills into this build here would be to hard, you really need more rogue level with so low skillpoints.
I play this build as Helf with rogue dille, so dps will be a bit lower as human but the extra feat is nice and makes it more flexible.

i am atm lvl15 with it and it rocks,
equipment is not much needed but as you know everything helps.
So try to have Str/Wis/Con/Dex highest possible and a mobile of melee Alacrity Trinket boosts also nice and saves you gulping all those haste pots.
Other then that a lvl4 wind bracer from the cannith challenges and the Icy Outfit from the Challenges are nice and easy to get.

Playstyle:
Buff up and go into wolf-form
Stun one enemy and gnaw him down, while spamming Cleave/grCleave
Throw in Takedown for more CC and when confronted with bigger groups use Sleetstorm and IceStorm(maxed) and fight in it.
And go in lower level for Reaving Roar its often enough to kill one enemy and the rest falls in Reaving Roar, later swap to Fatal Harrier.
Selfhealing is good and you will always be last man standing

And dont forget, you can use Staffs/Kama/(later shortswords with Ninja1)/Handwraps(logical^^) in Wolf-form and still count as unarmed.
So you can use Stunning Fist, Touch of Death etc while having a nice selection on weapons.


If i find the time i will try to build a druid/rogue build but dont count on it^^

[marinerfan]

Human 32pt Lawful Neutral
9 Monk / 9 Druid / 2 Fighter

Str 16 / Dex 14 / Con 14 / Int 8 / Wis 16 / Cha 8
ups in Str
Tomes: +2 Str needed for Overwhelming Critical, Wis/Con/Dex/Int/Cha are optional but would improve the build.
Concentration max, Balance (10 should be enough), Bluff (hopefull someday Wolfattack also uses bluff..), UMD (for Weapon/Armor restricts but not needed)

lvl class / Feats
1 Druid / normal - Human / Power Attack- free
2 Monk / Monk / Stunning Fist
3 Druid / normal - Wildshape / Cleave - Wolf
4 Druid / /
5 Druid / /
6 Monk / normal - Monk / Maximize - Toughness
7 Fighter / Fighter / Great Cleave
8 Druid / Wildshape / Bear
9 Druid / normal / Quicken
10 Druid / /
11 Druid / Wildshape / Winter Wolf
12 Druid / normal / Natural Fighting
13 Fighter / Fighter / Improved Critical Bludgeon
14 Monk / Path / Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
15 Monk / normal / Natural Fighting
16 Monk / /
17 Monk / Monk / Dodge
18 Monk / normal / Natural Fighting
19 Monk / /
20 Monk / /

Epic Feats Overwhelming Critical and Precision (atm optional, i planned it for boss dps in epics/raids dunno if it is worth)

Fitting trapping skills into this build here would be to hard, you really need more rogue level with so low skillpoints.
I play this build as Helf with rogue dille, so dps will be a bit lower as human but the extra feat is nice and makes it more flexible.

i am atm lvl15 with it and it rocks,
equipment is not much needed but as you know everything helps.
So try to have Str/Wis/Con/Dex highest possible and a mobile of melee Alacrity Trinket boosts also nice and saves you gulping all those haste pots.
Other then that a lvl4 wind bracer from the cannith challenges and the Icy Outfit from the Challenges are nice and easy to get.

Playstyle:
Buff up and go into wolf-form
Stun one enemy and gnaw him down, while spamming Cleave/grCleave
Throw in Takedown for more CC and when confronted with bigger groups use Sleetstorm and IceStorm(maxed) and fight in it.
And go in lower level for Reaving Roar its often enough to kill one enemy and the rest falls in Reaving Roar, later swap to Fatal Harrier.
Selfhealing is good and you will always be last man standing

And dont forget, you can use Staffs/Kama/(later shortswords with Ninja1)/Handwraps(logical^^) in Wolf-form and still count as unarmed.
So you can use Stunning Fist, Touch of Death etc while having a nice selection on weapons.


If i find the time i will try to build a druid/rogue build but dont count on it^^

Looks great! Thanks. I usually strive for rogue skills, but I could take a break from it for once. If i made this build and TR'd, would it count as a monk past life? I have some pretty awesome wraps in the bank right now so I'd probably roll with handwraps most of the time.

[Daemoneyes]

Looks great! Thanks. I usually strive for rogue skills, but I could take a break from it for once. If i made this build and TR'd, would it count as a monk past life? I have some pretty awesome wraps in the bank right now so I'd probably roll with handwraps most of the time.

yes it counts as Monk pl because monk came before druid in the game.
i am atm planning a druid/rogue/fighter build for f2p folks and while it misses stun and touch of death which are awesome it still has a lot of pro points.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=402771

i hope to get it finished in the next 2 days so check it out if you prefer rogue skills.

btw
i used mostly acid of bleed kama and seeker of vertigo but in higher level you really want the stun as mobs are hitting harder and the extra damage is more then welcome with all that hp increase of monster.
So now i use acid of stun staff with guild slot and consider maybe going for vampiric stonedust wraps, already got them but the flesh to stone proc is really meh at least on elite and i never saw use for 1hp per attack even with my fast attack rate and the 14.5% double strike.

ah anyway still drunk like a skunk :9 happy xmas ill get to work way way later ^^

[emptysands]

Search for a build called a thousands fists, or a drunk. Both are very durable. Don't underestimate double strike.

Both these are wraps builds. Druid natural fighting only applies in form and is selectable only if you are Druid 9+.

[emptysands]

Human 32pt Lawful Neutral
9 Monk / 9 Druid / 2 Fighter

Str 16 / Dex 14 / Con 14 / Int 8 / Wis 16 / Cha 8
ups in Str
...
Epic Feats Overwhelming Critical and Precision (atm optional, i planned it for boss dps in epics/raids dunno if it is worth)
...

Levelling up the same build at the moment.

HE: 1 monk, 2 Druid, 3 Monk, 4-11 Druid, 12-13 Fighter, 14-20 Monk
36pt: 16/14/16/8/16/8

1m. Toughness, Power Attack; 
3m. Cleave, Stunning Fist; 
6. Maximise; 
9. Quicken;
12f. Natural Fighting, IC: B; 
13f. Great Cleave; 
15. Natural Fighting; 
17m. Dodge; 
18. Natural Fighting; 
21. OC
24. PL: Monk or Improved Sunder or Precision (/may/ be better for raids)

I take 2 monk early for evasion - very handy while levelling. Also race for 9 Druid at 11 for firewall and extra handy aoe dps in shadow crypt.

I'll probably use the enhancement layout from unbongwah version of this build: http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=24. Although take Reaving Roar instead for levelling then switch for Fatal Harrier at or around 20.

Item wise, there is lots of choice - off-hand kama is like a third ring slot. Crit based effects are good: eg. Bloody Shadow Staff, both Life Stealing and Bodyfeeder will proc twice as much in wolf form.

[unbongwah]

If you are looking to test-drive the class, don't splash too much the first time.

This: I'm currently leveling a druid 13 / ftr 6 / wiz 1 dire bear tank (NW II / SD I); I'm having fun, but I made the mistake of getting crazy with MCing before I really understood what made druids tick and what I found most fun about them.

That said, if OP really wants to give a "Drunkcher" a go, I have a build for that...

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.14.02
DDO Character Planner Home Page

Level 20 Lawful Neutral Half-Elf Female
(6 Monk \ 1 Wizard \ 13 Druid) 
Hit Points: 288
Spell Points: 934 
BAB: 13\13\18\23
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 14
Will: 22

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    16
Dexterity            16                    20
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom               16                    25
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS


Level 5 (Monk)


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 7 (Druid)


Level 8 (Druid)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Wolf


Level 9 (Druid)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 10 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell


Level 11 (Druid)


Level 12 (Druid)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Bear


Level 13 (Druid)


Level 14 (Druid)


Level 15 (Druid)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Winter Wolf


Level 16 (Druid)
Ability Raise: WIS


Level 17 (Druid)


Level 18 (Druid)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Dire Bear


Level 19 (Druid)


Level 20 (Druid)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Water Elemental
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Druid Beastial Nature I
Enhancement: Druid Beastial Nature II
Enhancement: Druid Fatal Harrier
Enhancement: Druid Nature's Warrior I
Enhancement: Druid Nature's Warrior II
Enhancement: Druid Shifting Rake I
Enhancement: Druid Shifting Rake II
Enhancement: Druid Vengeful Hunter I
Enhancement: Druid Vengeful Hunter II
Enhancement: Improved Ranger Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Ranger Dilettante II
Enhancement: Improved Ranger Dilettante III
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Ten Thousand Stars
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Druid Eminence of Hoarfrost I
Enhancement: Druid Eminence of Hoarfrost II
Enhancement: Druid Eminence of Hoarfrost III
Enhancement: Druid Wisdom I
Enhancement: Druid Wisdom II
Enhancement: Druid Wisdom III
Enhancement: Druid Toughness I

Epic feats: Precision or another metamagic (e.g., Quicken, Emp Heal) and Combat Archery (req's base DEX 21 = base 16 + 3 tome + 2 lvl-ups)

Ranger dilly can be swapped for rogue (3D6 SA) if you take Bow STR. Would work as elf too, though you'd definitely want to squeeze in Bow STR somewhere.

Another option: switch to light monk, swap Dodge for Precision, and skip monk PrE; that would free up APs for, e.g., more caster enhs.

The idea is to take advantage of water elemental form in epics: Freezing Spray -> Greater Creeping Cold -> Manyshot / 10K Stars w/icy-bursted longbow.

[LOOON375]

Pure Druid is **** survivable in all content FYI. And you can aquire evasion in the Primal avatar destiny.

You can splash, or not and still have a **** good character.

[marinerfan]

Good advice, thanks everyone.
So I decided on the 9/9/2 build, rolled him up and am currently level 3. So far the build seems pretty sweet as I can kill stuff rather quickly and also heal myself. I'm glad to have Unbongwah's AP layout as there are a lot of options available to both druid and monk and I want to be able to maximize my skills/avoid wasting any points. I went human (don't have helf) would you recommend using human heal amp i, ii, and iii or do you think the AP's are better served elsewhere?

Drunkcher would be quite fun, perhaps next life that's what I'll be ..or more likely I'll go 18/2 drd/monk next life.
Thanks again everyone

[JasonJi72]

This: I'm currently leveling a druid 13 / ftr 6 / wiz 1 dire bear tank (NW II / SD I); I'm having fun, but I made the mistake of getting crazy with MCing before I really understood what made druids tick and what I found most fun about them.

That said, if OP really wants to give a "Drunkcher" a go, I have a build for that...

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.14.02
DDO Character Planner Home Page

Level 20 Lawful Neutral Half-Elf Female
(6 Monk \ 1 Wizard \ 13 Druid) 
Hit Points: 288
Spell Points: 934 
BAB: 13\13\18\23
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 14
Will: 22

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    16
Dexterity            16                    20
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom               16                    25
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Ranger
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: WIS


Level 5 (Monk)


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 7 (Druid)


Level 8 (Druid)
Ability Raise: WIS
Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Wolf


Level 9 (Druid)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 10 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell


Level 11 (Druid)


Level 12 (Druid)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Bear


Level 13 (Druid)


Level 14 (Druid)


Level 15 (Druid)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Winter Wolf


Level 16 (Druid)
Ability Raise: WIS


Level 17 (Druid)


Level 18 (Druid)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Dire Bear


Level 19 (Druid)


Level 20 (Druid)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Druid Wild Shape) Wild Shape: Water Elemental
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Druid Beastial Nature I
Enhancement: Druid Beastial Nature II
Enhancement: Druid Fatal Harrier
Enhancement: Druid Nature's Warrior I
Enhancement: Druid Nature's Warrior II
Enhancement: Druid Shifting Rake I
Enhancement: Druid Shifting Rake II
Enhancement: Druid Vengeful Hunter I
Enhancement: Druid Vengeful Hunter II
Enhancement: Improved Ranger Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Ranger Dilettante II
Enhancement: Improved Ranger Dilettante III
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Ten Thousand Stars
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Druid Eminence of Hoarfrost I
Enhancement: Druid Eminence of Hoarfrost II
Enhancement: Druid Eminence of Hoarfrost III
Enhancement: Druid Wisdom I
Enhancement: Druid Wisdom II
Enhancement: Druid Wisdom III
Enhancement: Druid Toughness I

Epic feats: Precision or another metamagic (e.g., Quicken, Emp Heal) and Combat Archery (req's base DEX 21 = base 16 + 3 tome + 2 lvl-ups)

Ranger dilly can be swapped for rogue (3D6 SA) if you take Bow STR. Would work as elf too, though you'd definitely want to squeeze in Bow STR somewhere.

Another option: switch to light monk, swap Dodge for Precision, and skip monk PrE; that would free up APs for, e.g., more caster enhs.

The idea is to take advantage of water elemental form in epics: Freezing Spray -> Greater Creeping Cold -> Manyshot / 10K Stars w/icy-bursted longbow.

I have one of these at level 21. No I didn't copy yours buddy lol.
Mine has Precision, Stunning Fist, and is a Light Monk. The AP and feat you save by going light monk is really worth it IMHO. The build is a lot of fun. The self healing is awesome, and I think I do more dps than I did as a 12monk moncher with GCC and company. I think we will be seeing a lot more of these builds in the future. It is fairly complex to put together, and I would not recommend it to newer players or first life characters though.

To the OP... Definitely take 13 Druid levels (or more). You will not regret it. Regeneration and Greater Creeping Cold are THAT good!