6% doublestrike ring

[Machination]

WTB random loot gen 6% doublestrike ring. I don't even know if they exist but as I have pulled 6% gloves and 3% rings I assume they do but are probably rare. Send PST or hit me in game on RTFM if you have one for sale or trade.

[Symerith]

They do exist, and come with +13/15 skill from what I've seen.

[Machination]

Sith did you pull all your toons from Khyber? None left ????

Miss you around here man!!! Hope all is well

They do exist, and come with +13/15 skill from what I've seen.

[Woebringer]

They are out there. As other(s) have said.
+6% Doublestrike, +1# Skill is the only form factor I have seen them in.

I actually have a +6 DS, +13 Perform on Ghal that I got off an Eveningstar vendor (!).
Sorry we can't work a deal.

[Missing_Minds]

when I see any 6% double strike, 9/10 times it is going to have preform 13 or so on it, but almost always preform.

[Nickademus42]

Mine has Repair +15, but still. Not selling for now as it is quite tasty with an eSoS.

[jakeelala]

DS is wildly underrated. Any melee toon without it slotted is nuts. Please tell me any other mod that can give an across the board 6% DPS increase? Claw set can't do that, neither can PDK, planar Conflux, or Abishai. DS rules, because it technically "stacks" with all of those.

[HalfORCastrator]

DS is wildly underrated. Any melee toon without it slotted is nuts. Please tell me any other mod that can give an across the board 6% DPS increase? Claw set can't do that, neither can PDK, planar Conflux, or Abishai. DS rules, because it technically "stacks" with all of those.

For thf, not twf(although still a good dps increase). Problem is other mods to get. Random loot is not so good with slot consolidation worries. And does it work off special attacks(sblow, cleaves, lay waste, etc)?

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[jakeelala]

Why would it be worth-less on TWF? A TWF attack has a percentage to proc offhand based on feats like TWF/iTWF. With DS, when it procs an extra attack, it too can proc an offhand. In that way the benefit is still a constant 6% to your total DPS (average of course).

I'm not positive but I believe it works with ED abilities/cleave feats from playing with Cleaver. I could be mistaken though my testing has not been exhaustive.

I generally use a DS ring; there are few rings that could give that sort of DPS boost. Avithoul? Shintao? Not gonna do it. For a barb FB and DS is probably best. Ring of the stalker and dunrobar are obvious contenders too. But considering raw damage output of a barb, I would say DS is a must.

[HalfORCastrator]

Why would it be worth-less on TWF? A TWF attack has a percentage to proc offhand based on feats like TWF/iTWF. With DS, when it procs an extra attack, it too can proc an offhand. In that way the benefit is still a constant 6% to your total DPS (average of course).

I'm not positive but I believe it works with ED abilities/cleave feats from playing with Cleaver. I could be mistaken though my testing has not been exhaustive.

I generally use a DS ring; there are few rings that could give that sort of DPS boost. Avithoul? Shintao? Not gonna do it. For a barb FB and DS is probably best. Ring of the stalker and dunrobar are obvious contenders too. But considering raw damage output of a barb, I would say DS is a must.

I've heard previously that double strike hits didn't proc off hand attacks. After your post I went searching for proof and found this. Maybe they changed something recently. I unfortunately don't have a toon with 12 ranger to be able to test this efficiently, I'll ask a friend if he can help.

Another thing I thought of after is that if it even does work off the special attacks, it's probably not likely it procs the special attack as that strike. Like a Great Cleave procing a double strike Great Cleave. Rather, it'd probably work like Great Cleave procing a normal attack. This would make it not a straight 6% increase in dps even for THF. (This notion came about before U14 and special attacks becoming the norm due to changes to the cleaves, and the addition of LD attacks.) I'll try to test tonight to see if this is true.

As far as DPS, I've gotten into a similar argument and have come around. Getting +5 combat dcs to stunning blow is much better translation to dps than double strike. It also goes toward the slot consolidation argument in a sense since being able to get trip or stun working helps survivability(just as heal amp or greater false life do). This is a moot point if you find 6% double strike efficiently, but for comparison of the ring slot as it is this is relevant. Of course, stunning blow doesn't affect bosses so 6% double strike is probably better than a Dunrobar ring. Always a swap away I guess.

[Missing_Minds]

Always a swap away I guess.

And other red/purple named. That would be the smart thing to do. Then again if one gets really lucky with gear, who knows. Person could have both.

[HalfORCastrator]

And other red/purple named. That would be the smart thing to do. Then again if one gets really lucky with gear, who knows. Person could have both.

Yeah, I just lump them together mentally.

[jakeelala]

cant get cleave to proc DS which is bogus but in line with what you were saying. Against purp/red named, trip and stun are useless as you've mentioned, so it's still nice there.

Doublestrike procs a basic attack with all weapon damage modifiers etc, it even rolls to hit, as I checked the combat log. I can check on my Flonk and the dummy to see if I can observe offhand procs on a DS (using wraps). Of course back in 08/2010 it would appear DS was not proccing offhand attacks. Which I dont understand, whne you doublestrike it is an entirely separate new attack that proc, I don't even know how they would program it NOT to give offhand procs.

It is unfort that in LayWaste/Momentum/Cleave/Gcleave dont proc DS since chaining those leaves very little time for regular swinging.

[Symerith]

Sith did you pull all your toons from Khyber? None left ????

Miss you around here man!!! Hope all is well

Ya they are all gone :'( I miss Khyber as well but heh I might come back if there's a revs reunion =)