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    Default Please Increase Amrath XP

    Ok, you've cleverly shown us how you can flip the xp of a single quest on a dime to whatever you want, without it affecting complex, across the board xp formulas throughout the database.

    Please use your newfound powers to do what players have been begging for for years. Please increase Amrath XP.

    You know that a sore point in the game is the exponentially increasing XP requirement for TRs, and you know that there is insufficient XP from 18 to 20 for TR2+. You know that the XP for Amrath is too low for the effort and risk required, resulting in one of the (otherwise) best designed areas of the game collecting cobwebs and pixel dust. So please just kill two birds with one stone and fix it already.

    Or, if it conflicts with some long term plan whereby new 18-20 quests are coming or all the formulas for late heroic xp have changes in the works or whatever, please give us a clue as to what that plan is.

    I think we've waited long enough on this issue. At very least, if you are never going to fix it, just say so, so we can stop hoping.
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    /signed
    I'm fairly new to amrath, but its a really good pack from what I've done (have yet to do ToD). Xp is abysmal there, so once I get all the items I need, I'm probably gonna be done with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arminius View Post
    Ok, you've cleverly shown us how you can flip the xp of a single quest on a dime to whatever you want, without it affecting complex, across the board xp formulas throughout the database.

    Please use your newfound powers to do what players have been begging for for years. Please increase Amrath XP.

    You know that a sore point in the game is the exponentially increasing XP requirement for TRs, and you know that there is insufficient XP from 18 to 20 for TR2+. You know that the XP for Amrath is too low for the effort and risk required, resulting in one of the (otherwise) best designed areas of the game collecting cobwebs and pixel dust. So please just kill two birds with one stone and fix it already.

    Or, if it conflicts with some long term plan whereby new 18-20 quests are coming or all the formulas for late heroic xp have changes in the works or whatever, please give us a clue as to what that plan is.

    I think we've waited long enough on this issue. At very least, if you are never going to fix it, just say so, so we can stop hoping.
    /signed.

    And increase xp of house C flagging quests too, they are terrible xp wise...
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    Agreed, the xp for time spent is horrible out there. The quests are mostly pretty well designed so there is not much shortcut/zerg you can do either. The xp should better reflect the investment.

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    I forgot those quests even still existed. It's not like you see LFMs for them. Horrible XP for time/difficulty cross those quests off many players' lists, which is a waste of some decent content.

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    Default Amrath xp

    The amount of xp for the time spent in most of these quests as well as the difficulty of them is clearly not enough. I agree that once I get these quests done on each toon at elite and get the loot out of them that I want, then there isn't much reason to run them anymore. An xp boost would make playing them more desireable. They are beautifully well designed quests and people should have more reason to want to play them more!
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    /signed

    Been saying it a few years now.

    Sad that a really well done area, with a great storyline most often gets run 1 time a life when you want to flag for TOD and/or get the necessary favor for YUGO pots.

    As is it's pretty low on my "things to buy list" after switching to premium status.

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    Yes please... It's a good area... make it worth running for exp again.
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    Just make epic versions of these quests. No need to 'epicify' the items. Just the monsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Certon View Post
    Just make epic versions of these quests. No need to 'epicify' the items. Just the monsters.
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    /signed
    Only running them for gear, I'm scared of them otherwise lol.

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    Signed for both.

    Some of us have suggested many times for experience to be reallocated or raised for specific quests. I just dont think it should be raised across the board, but certain quests are more challenging than others and that should logically mean greater rewards, which it currently does not.

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    /signed a thousand times over.

    I love love love Amrath but while TRing? I can't be bothered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arminius View Post
    Ok, you've cleverly shown us how you can flip the xp of a single quest on a dime to whatever you want, without it affecting complex, across the board xp formulas throughout the database.

    Please use your newfound powers to do what players have been begging for for years. Please increase Amrath XP.

    You know that a sore point in the game is the exponentially increasing XP requirement for TRs, and you know that there is insufficient XP from 18 to 20 for TR2+. You know that the XP for Amrath is too low for the effort and risk required, resulting in one of the (otherwise) best designed areas of the game collecting cobwebs and pixel dust. So please just kill two birds with one stone and fix it already.

    Or, if it conflicts with some long term plan whereby new 18-20 quests are coming or all the formulas for late heroic xp have changes in the works or whatever, please give us a clue as to what that plan is.

    I think we've waited long enough on this issue. At very least, if you are never going to fix it, just say so, so we can stop hoping.
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    /signed.

    And increase xp of house C flagging quests too, they are terrible xp wise...
    /concur

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    /signed for Amrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxhunter View Post
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    I second this post.
    Especially A New Invasion deserves a buff to experience, the difficulty of the last boss is itself harder than the entire quest, this boss needs to be a little easier, stuff like no air elementals and allow reflex and evasion for traps would go a long way. But without that this quest easily deserves +100% base experience.
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    No reason the Amrath/House C quests to give such miserable XP.
    Come on guys, this is what.. thread 300+ on this exact subject?

    (And NO, don't nerf the rest of quest XP down to match these either. Thanks!)
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    flagging quest CAN'T ever give such poor xp

    what happens when the xp in flagging quests is low?

    tr don't waste their time doing them (im not talking about mads who tr in less than 1 day, i talk about ppl who does most of quests, and repeats when wanted/needed, 1 sos/adq at lvl per life are nice xp and not that hard)

    what happens when tr don't do a quest/raid? newcomer tries and leaves, why should they learn with wiki and tons of time how works the raid? there's better gear, everywhere

    so you have 3 packs (restless isles, vault of the artificer and devils of shavarath) pretty useless

    ppl don't need 'em, there's the xp and gear needed in packs more played

    why don't you boost these packs? if you lower the price, you're doing it wrong, you are losing TP

    if you upgrade the gear, are doing it wrong, more bugs/complains

    if you increase XP base (in every difficulty) 25% you are doing it better than now, quests won't become the best xp/min in game or the highest xp in heroic quest, but hey... you will see far more amrath flagging quests and abandoned raids(titan, tod, MA & LoB)

    IMO i would increase the xp only for flagging quests, if you wanna do it with the rest is your choice, i'll accept it LOL

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    Turbine fixing XP in dungeons is more likely to be the cause of the Apocalypse than any silly Mayan calendar.

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    While epic versions would certainly be interesting, it would defeat my purpose here, because like all the other epic quests people would just reserve them to run post-20. I'm already concerned about what the loss of both the Desert AND Gianthold will do to mid-levels. I guess that's what the stones of XP are for, haha.
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