Pugging on Khyber.

[Beer_Dude]

It seems that we've overcome the learning curve on Khyber. I've been pugging a lot on Disavowed's third life and I have to say I've yet to be in a pug that I've joined or led that has sucked. Some newbies here and there but they weren't noobs. They asked good questions and wanted to learn. One knew his toon sucked when it came to HP and asked for some help on how to fix it. I gave him some gear and 20 tapestries for a minos helm and heavy fort and it was like a whole new toon. Dude listened well and took my advice about coming to the forms. It's kind of like the old Reidra/Khyber days before FTP fun, pleasnt, pugging where quests get done fast and efficient and the newbies want and try to learn.

Maybe the Mayans are right the world is coming to an end.

[Contrex]

I hate to break it to you, but the Mayans predicted nothing but a flip of their calendar. We do it every year and only occasionally does a doomsday cult form around the event.


Anyway, I haven't really pugged my heroic-level toons in a while, but epics seem OK for the most part. Raids are getting dull though.

[Beer_Dude]

I hate to break it to you, but the Mayans predicted nothing but a flip of their calendar. We do it every year and only occasionally does a doomsday cult form around the event.

For the record. Yes I know this, and I think most others do too. It was an attempt at humor, but I guess a poor one. Or some folks just take things too serious and can't see humor when reading text.

[Contrex]

For the record. Yes I know this, and I think most others do too. It was an attempt at humor, but I guess a poor one. Or some folks just take things too serious and can't see humor when reading text.

Um, I didn't assume you're being serious.

[Beer_Dude]

Um, I didn't assume you're being serious.

My bad. Hard to tell from text. No voice inflection or gestures to see an overtone.

[SilkofDrasnia]

Seems to me there no where as many pugs as there use to be so maybe that why things "seem" better lol

[Beer_Dude]

Seems to me there no where as many pugs as there use to be so maybe that why things "seem" better lol

But back then joining a PUG was pretty much the same as joing a run with your guildies. In a way the server was like one giant guild. Everyone pretty much knew each other and everyone's alts too. I don't know what to make of it but I will say the quality of PUGS is far batter now than say 18 months ago. Now it's more like it was 5+ years ago.

[Meat-Head]

This thread has too many Mayans and not enough making fun of pugs.




@Beer: My limited observations seem to support your conclusion sir. Don't know the cause, however.

[Beer_Dude]

This thread has too many Mayans and not enough making fun of pugs.




@Beer: My limited observations seem to support your conclusion sir. Don't know the cause, however.

Nor do I Meat but I have to say it's nice regardless of the cause because I really do hate soling stuff. I can do it no problem but I play for the social aspect of the game.

[Gunga]

Your beer to pug ratio might have been a bit high when you experienced this wave of decent pugs.

[Beer_Dude]

Your beer to pug ratio might have been a bit high when you experienced this wave of decent pugs.

That is always a possibility.

[Hordo]

Your beer to pug ratio might have been a bit high when you experienced this wave of decent pugs.

Gunga, Cloey, Sthase and I have discovered some real winners...

[Beer_Dude]

Gunga, Cloey, Sthase and I have discovered some real winners...

I think that just follows you regardless of the rest of the server.

[taurean430]

Gunga, Cloey, Sthase and I have discovered some real winners...

/sad

I had fun in your Von 5/6 run. And I didn't even steal the furniture!

:P

[Beer_Dude]

Honestly there's no reason at all to recall out early in Shroud and not complete. Especially now with the raid timer resets.

Even before the raid timer resets, before larges as an end reward, and extra chets for hard and elite it wasn't wise to do it. Somewhere on here Emily did the math and the numbers to aquire larges by finishing outweighed the number of larges you got by not finishing by a long shot.

Something to think about because there's no need to run for small and mediums. All you have to do is ask for them and people will leave them in the chest for you or even just give them to you from their bag. I literally have over 100 of every Lg. & Sm. and after 100 it becomes a pain in the ass to move them around so I'll gladly just give them away in chunks of 30-50. Most everyone else will too. Also the need for GS is far less these days due to better high end weapons and most people have already crafted GS so usually shards are just given away too.

But you guys already know this from drunken raid runs and have seen it first hand.

[ScarletIncubus]

Honestly there's no reason at all to recall out early in Shroud and not complete. Especially now with the raid timer resets.

I needed a great shard to make my toon's GS accessory and didn't want to eat a timer because i'm cheap; I want to TR her soon with a buddy. /reason

[Fuitentooty]

I usually PUG and rarely solo quests. What I have noticed is when I put up a group for a F2P quest there are a lot more newbies (for obvious reasons) and the so-called quality of the PUG is noticeably different than a P2P quest. I prefer a PUG with newbies anyways. Makes it more interesting and entertaining!

[Jay203]

meh, i've still yet to run into a single PUG group that can do Framework on elite without allowing minos triggering alarm

[sirgog]

meh, i've still yet to run into a single PUG group that can do Framework on elite without allowing minos triggering alarm

I don't mind it when PUGs have difficulty with notoriously tough optionals. Just as I'm not disappointed that my attempts at a bravery Tor with dragons failed this life on Myrmidral. (We did get elite White down at level 16 but wiped four times on black and called it; apparently blue is now easier than black as the trap range has been fixed but we didn't realise this at the time)

[Gunga]

meh, i've still yet to run into a single PUG group that can do Framework on elite without allowing minos triggering alarm

Forget pugs. I haven't run that thing with more than 2 people without triggering that alarm on elite. Yes, good players. Yes, invis'd. No, no one bumped anything. It's still a good xp farm.