Epic Gianthold Item speculation thread

[AegonTargaryen]

Well Turbine could easily make it so scrolls, seals, and shards all have higher drop rates on higher diff all the way up to epic elite. Provides incentive to running it. But we all know this wont happen, and even it did it wont work properly and we'll end up with ring of spell storing shard drop rates in all chests. So I dont know where to stand.

Though I miss the thrill of scroll hunting, (who can't remember how stoked they were when they got that first SoS or claw set scroll? Though I don't miss the ninja looters...)I'm afraid Teth has a point. If we use the latest Ebberon pack as an example, the shard, seal and scroll drop rates would be scarce indeed. Sh*tty drop rates = No fun.

[Twin_Stronglord]

Just wanted to respond to the ToD becoming irrelevant sentiments. 2 of the 3 +4 tomes I've pulled and most I've seen drop were from ToD on normal.

[ycheese123]

Very excited for epic GH, I prefer ebberon content over FR. Love the epic globe, a trinket that provides +1exp bonus to all stats and can be placed into an augment slot? Must have. There are so many named items in Gianthold, this should be interesting. I'm assuming & hoping the quest items will get an epic version too.

7 in Crucible, 6 in Madstone, 8 in PoP, 24 in TOR, 12 in Reaver's Fate = 57 items.

Looking forward to Windlasher, the falchion form crucible, and Jorgundal's collar. oh, and the runes arms..

[MrkGrismer]

Very excited for epic GH, I prefer ebberon content over FR. Love the epic globe, a trinket that provides +1exp bonus to all stats and can be placed into an augment slot? Must have. There are so many named items in Gianthold, this should be interesting. I'm assuming & hoping the quest items will get an epic version too.

7 in Crucible, 6 in Madstone, 8 in PoP, 24 in TOR, 12 in Reaver's Fate = 57 items.

Looking forward to Windlasher, the falchion form crucible, and Jorgundal's collar. oh, and the runes arms..

It's not a trinket. It is an 'augment'.

[Maxallu]

Or, damage item combinations. Say cloudburst and addefect depending on what dragon helm you are wearing. Cloudburst and blue helm = additional electric damage, or cloudburst and black helm = electric and acid damage combo. same for the white helm, electric damage and cold combo.

[DeafeningWhisper]

Or, damage item combinations. Say cloudburst and addefect depending on what dragon helm you are wearing. Cloudburst and blue helm = additional electric damage, or cloudburst and black helm = electric and acid damage combo. same for the white helm, electric damage and cold combo.

Sounds cool, but I see so many possible bugs...

What I really want is for that weapon to be somewhat similar to end game weapons like Breach, I have both on my bard but Cloudburt feels just, I don't know special or something.

[NytCrawlr]

Or, damage item combinations. Say cloudburst and addefect depending on what dragon helm you are wearing. Cloudburst and blue helm = additional electric damage, or cloudburst and black helm = electric and acid damage combo. same for the white helm, electric damage and cold combo.

Definitely liking this idea.

But yeah, I would also like to see epic cloudburst become the next ESoS if they aren't going to nerf it. Was hoping for a one-hander, but I'll take the next gen as Cloudburst too.

[Cardoor]

While this is a flavorful element in line with the Create Undead spell, it''ll just be annoying and too prone for trolling (aka, Raid group just finished buffing, one member summons this, every buff gone. Huge waste of time/resources). I'd be content if it just summoned a Doomsphere (which flavorwise makes more sense, since we did murder Kardin in PoP. :X

Addressing the mechanic specifically, if you want something like that either make it a much higher chance (if the point of the summon is to be comedic and aggro the party, it should happen more often).

I agree that the debuff would be too annoying to a party, so would change it to 5% chance to attack the summoner (summoner only).

The point of the 5% chance is to make the summon dangerous (vs another thoughtless click before the quest). I would want to ask myself whether I REALLY want to summon Kardin or... maybe not.

I like your idea about a Doomsphere too, it makes more sense.

[Cardoor]

Or, something like this: Kardin's Cone: Aspects of Kardin remain, an anti-magic cone is emitted from kardins eye, preventing enemy spellcasting for a short period of time. 3 charges.

Maybe a cone of improved shattermantle on red names...

[Deathdefy]

Epic spiked boots - please make these increase unarmed damage so we can infuse our punches with the power of kicks.

Beyond that I'm happy.

I'd personally love more items with a Profane bonus to stats due to my dislike for both Abbot and definitive 'best in slot' items generally, but can understand why that opinion will be unpopular for those who've put in the time and pain to get their Litany.

[Cardoor]

Would any of you gear designers be kind enough to add a projection for the Gauntlets of Eternity? It would be the only epic item I'm aware of that augments turn undead. Not to mention the potentially highest devotion value, which seems to have been largely neglected...

Anyway, thanx in advance...

I'll give it a go...

Gauntlets of Eternity
Heal +20
Repair +20
Devotion +
Superior Healing Lore
Eternal Faith
Awaken the Elixir (Mass Raise Dead clickie once per day but kills the clicker on use)

[NytCrawlr]

I'd personally love more items with a Profane bonus to stats due to my dislike for both Abbot and definitive 'best in slot' items generally, but can understand why that opinion will be unpopular for those who've put in the time and pain to get their Litany.

Agreed, and U16 just saw a new pair of gloves with a profane bonus, but unfortunately for my tank they are gloves.

[Phemt81]

There is already plenty of gear available for the 18-21 level range, but there is comparatively very little actual "end game" gear now that we have a higher level cap. I am all for epic GH being level 25 base quests with ml 25 gear.

I am sure you can comprehend that upgrading an item from ML 13 to ML 25 is just a long way, either in terms of time and inventory arrangement.

Even ML 22 or 23 would make such items much more valuable and usable in my humble opinion. But this is a matter of how you see the game, the balancement and if you like to TR or not. Matter of taste.

no imo it all needs to be ml 25. or higher

I just imagined the items affected from a bug making them ML 26 and all the complaints we would see on the forum

The narrower the endgame gear is, the better.

If you like to TR as soon as you cap, why would you suggest the release of items you will use briefly?

Cause i, at least, can get to use them?

Nice rethorical question by the way.

not sure if serious..
epic items by definition are AML 20. if all you want to do is TR, why worry about epic items at all? by design they are limited to endgame. TR or epics - pick one.

Yes i am serious, i played my first videogame when i was 6, considering that i am 31 now and still playing games, i think i can give some good feedback, don't you agree?

Well, one of the most powerful weapon i found is called sireth and its ML is 23 coming from a raid which on normal is level 24...

As i told already, is also a matter of game balance...

Thanks for your different opinions about this matter but i still think that an item with cap requirements should be very rare and powerful.

Like the old epic items were before motu came.

[Llint]

Where are all the Gibbering Mouthers???

[Cardoor]

Where are all the Gibbering Mouthers???

Gibbering Mouthers are made out of piles of Gibberlings. I killed all of the gibberlings in Baldur's Gate and sold them to the gibbering mouther maker. I would start your quest with it. Hopefully it can point you in the right direction.

EDIT: almost forgot...if you are looking for the gibbering mouther maker, you can find him in a bag of turkey giblets...good luck!

[SableShadow]

I killed all of the gibberlings in Baldur's Gate and sold them to the gibbering mouther maker.

There can be only THREE!

[Cetus]

I am sure you can comprehend that upgrading an item from ML 13 to ML 25 is just a long way, either in terms of time and inventory arrangement.

Even ML 22 or 23 would make such items much more valuable and usable in my humble opinion. But this is a matter of how you see the game, the balancement and if you like to TR or not. Matter of taste.



I just imagined the items affected from a bug making them ML 26 and all the complaints we would see on the forum



Cause i, at least, can get to use them?

Nice rethorical question by the way.



Yes i am serious, i played my first videogame when i was 6, considering that i am 31 now and still playing games, i think i can give some good feedback, don't you agree?

Well, one of the most powerful weapon i found is called sireth and its ML is 23 coming from a raid which on normal is level 24...

As i told already, is also a matter of game balance...

Thanks for your different opinions about this matter but i still think that an item with cap requirements should be very rare and powerful.

Like the old epic items were before motu came.

Lol, so let me get this straight. You would rather have the devs make less powerful items (and thus, lower min level) for the sake of letting TR grinders such as yourself, use them during your time above level 20?
Yea, even with those 25 years of gaming, I think that feedback is terrible.

Forget the fact that the current endgame raid has loot that is ml23, and the cormyrian scale armors as well.

Knock yourself out with that stuff, let the permanent 25's have gear tht distinguishes them from a level 23. AND when YOU get to 25, you'll have better stuff to look forward to as well.

Don't we all win that way?

[Symerith]

Lol, so let me get this straight. You would rather have the devs make less powerful items (and thus, lower min level) for the sake of letting TR grinders such as yourself, use them during your time above level 20?
Yea, even with those 25 years of gaming, I think that feedback is terrible.

Forget the fact that the current endgame raid has loot that is ml23, and the cormyrian scale armors as well.

Knock yourself out with that stuff, let the permanent 25's have gear tht distinguishes them from a level 23. AND when YOU get to 25, you'll have better stuff to look forward to as well.

Don't we all win that way?

As always, good stuff. (Edit, can't +1 you before I spread some)

[Phemt81]

Lol, so let me get this straight. You would rather have the devs make less powerful items (and thus, lower min level) for the sake of letting TR grinders such as yourself, use them during your time above level 20?
Yea, even with those 25 years of gaming, I think that feedback is terrible.

Forget the fact that the current endgame raid has loot that is ml23, and the cormyrian scale armors as well.

Knock yourself out with that stuff, let the permanent 25's have gear tht distinguishes them from a level 23. AND when YOU get to 25, you'll have better stuff to look forward to as well.

Don't we all win that way?

You could be right, and i cold be wrong. But that doesn't allow you to laugh at others' opinions and say their feedback is terrible. No, having started playing DDO in 2006 doesn't allow that.

Why are you sounding so hostile to a different opinion?

Oh, almost forgot, i am not a TR grinder, i take the game at the right pace, the one making me having fun. You know nothing about me.

[Symerith]

You could be right, and i cold be wrong. But that doesn't allow you to laugh at others' opinions and say their feedback is terrible. No, having started playing DDO in 2006 doesn't allow that.

Why are you sounding so hostile to a different opinion?

Oh, almost forgot, i am not a TR grinder, i take the game at the right pace, the one making me having fun. You know nothing about me.

Don't think it's his intention to be hostile, but you expressed your opinion in a selfish kind of way.

It's as if you wanted old ML 20 epic items to be ML 16. Now, new epic items will not be released with low ML.
Let's get realistic, whataver people say, turbine will NOT release ML 20-23 items for the obvious reason that as new content is released, better items with higher ML are added.

It's been turbine's way of doing things, and I seriously doubt it will change.