HOLY COW, THE 1st PURE MONCHER BUILD!!!

[connerj]

OMG!!!!

BUILD ID: 34945

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PAST LIVES SELECTED:
Cleric (1), Sorcerer (1)

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LEVEL 1
Race Selected: Male Half-Elf
Alignment Selected: Lawful Neutral
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 1)
Abilities Raised: STR: 16, DEX: 16, CON: 16, WIS: 14
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +4 (4), Concentration +4 (4), UMD +2 (2)
Feats Selected: Point Blank Shot, Half-Elf Dilettante (Cleric), Dodge
Automatic Feats Granted: Past Life (Cleric), Past Life (Sorcerer), Attack, Heroic Durability, Sneak, Armor Class Bonus (Wisdom), Finishing Moves, Flurry of Blows, Half-Elf Keen Senses, Half-Elf Mixed Heritage, Half-Elf Social Graces, Immunity to Sleep, Unarmed Strike, Simple Weapons (Club), Simple Weapons (Dagger), Simple Weapons (Heavy Crossbow), Simple Weapons (Light Crossbow), Simple Weapons (Quarterstaff), Simple Weapons (Unarmed), Martial Weapons (Handaxe), Exotic Weapons (Kama), Exotic Weapons (Shuriken), Disciple of Breezes, Disciple of Candles, Disciple of Pebbles, Disciple of Puddles
Stats at End of Level 1:
HP:31 SP:0 AC:15 FORT:5 REFL:5 WILL:4 BAB:+0/+0
STR:16(+3) DEX:16(+3) CON:16(+3) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:7, Bluff:-1, Concentration:7, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1, Jump:3, Listen:3, Move Silently:3, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:3, Tumble: n/a, UMD:1


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LEVEL 2
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (5), Concentration +1 (5), UMD +0.5 (2.5)
Feats Selected: Zen Archery
Automatic Feats Granted: Armor Class Bonus, Defensive Fighting, Evasion, Meditation, Sunder, Trip
Stats at End of Level 2:
HP:42 SP:0 AC:16 FORT:6 REFL:6 WILL:5 BAB:+1/+1/+6
STR:16(+3) DEX:16(+3) CON:16(+3) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:8, Bluff:-1, Concentration:8, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1, Jump:3, Listen:3, Move Silently:3, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:3, Tumble: n/a, UMD:1.5


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LEVEL 3
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 3)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (6), Concentration +1 (6), UMD +0.5 (3)
Feats Selected: Past Life (Arcane Prodigy), Path of Harmonious Balance
Tomes Applied: DEX: +1, CON: +1
Favor Bonus Granted: Draconic Vitality (15 Agents of Argonnessen Favor)
Automatic Feats Granted: Fast Movement, Still Mind
Stats at End of Level 3:
HP:63 SP:0 AC:16 FORT:6 REFL:6 WILL:5 BAB:+2/+2/+7
STR:16(+3) DEX:17(+3) CON:17(+3) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:9, Bluff:-1, Concentration:9, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1, Jump:3, Listen:3, Move Silently:3, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:3, Tumble: n/a, UMD:2


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LEVEL 4
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 4)
Abilities Raised: CON: 18
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (7), Concentration +1 (7), UMD +0.5 (3.5)
Automatic Feats Granted: Ki Strike (Magic), Slow Fall
Stats at End of Level 4:
HP:78 SP:0 AC:16 FORT:8 REFL:7 WILL:6 BAB:+3/+3/+8/+13
STR:16(+3) DEX:17(+3) CON:18(+4) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:10, Bluff:-1, Concentration:11, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1, Jump:3, Listen:3, Move Silently:3, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:3, Tumble: n/a, UMD:2.5


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LEVEL 5
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 5)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (8), Concentration +1 (8), UMD +0.5 (4)
Automatic Feats Granted: Purity of Body
Stats at End of Level 5:
HP:90 SP:0 AC:16 FORT:8 REFL:7 WILL:6 BAB:+3/+3/+8/+13
STR:16(+3) DEX:17(+3) CON:18(+4) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:11, Bluff:-1, Concentration:12, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1, Jump:3, Listen:3, Move Silently:3, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:3, Tumble: n/a, UMD:3


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LEVEL 6
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 6)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (9), Concentration +1 (9), UMD +0.5 (4.5)
Feats Selected: Weapon Focus (Ranged), Stunning Fist
Stats at End of Level 6:
HP:102 SP:0 AC:16 FORT:9 REFL:8 WILL:7 BAB:+4/+4/+9/+14
STR:16(+3) DEX:17(+3) CON:18(+4) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:12, Bluff:-1, Concentration:13, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1, Jump:3, Listen:3, Move Silently:3, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:3, Tumble: n/a, UMD:3.5


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LEVEL 7
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 7)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (10), Concentration +1 (10), UMD +0.5 (5)
Tomes Applied: STR: +2, CON: +2
Automatic Feats Granted: Wholeness of Body
Stats at End of Level 7:
HP:114 SP:0 AC:16 FORT:9 REFL:8 WILL:7 BAB:+5/+5/+10/+15
STR:18(+4) DEX:17(+3) CON:19(+4) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:13, Bluff:-1, Concentration:14, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:3, Move Silently:3, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:4


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LEVEL 8
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 8)
Abilities Raised: DEX: 18
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (11), Concentration +1 (11), UMD +0.5 (5.5)
Stats at End of Level 8:
HP:126 SP:0 AC:17 FORT:10 REFL:10 WILL:8 BAB:+6/+6/+11/+16
STR:18(+4) DEX:18(+4) CON:19(+4) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:15, Bluff:-1, Concentration:15, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:4, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:3, Move Silently:4, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:4.5


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LEVEL 9
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 9)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (12), Concentration +1 (12), UMD +0.5 (6)
Feats Selected: Precision
Automatic Feats Granted: Improved Evasion
Stats at End of Level 9:
HP:138 SP:0 AC:17 FORT:10 REFL:10 WILL:8 BAB:+6/+6/+11/+16
STR:18(+4) DEX:18(+4) CON:19(+4) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:16, Bluff:-1, Concentration:16, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:4, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:3, Move Silently:4, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:5


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LEVEL 10
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 10)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (13), Concentration +1 (13), UMD +0.5 (6.5)
Automatic Feats Granted: Ki Strike (Lawful)
Stats at End of Level 10:
HP:150 SP:0 AC:17 FORT:11 REFL:11 WILL:9 BAB:+7/+7/+12/+17
STR:18(+4) DEX:18(+4) CON:19(+4) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:17, Bluff:-1, Concentration:17, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:4, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:3, Move Silently:4, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:5.5


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LEVEL 11
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 11)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (14), Concentration +1 (14), UMD +0.5 (7)
Tomes Applied: DEX: +3, CON: +3, WIS: +2
Automatic Feats Granted: Diamond Body
Stats at End of Level 11:
HP:173 SP:0 AC:19 FORT:12 REFL:12 WILL:10 BAB:+8/+8/+13/+18
STR:18(+4) DEX:20(+5) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:19, Bluff:-1, Concentration:19, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:5, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:5, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:6


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LEVEL 12
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 12)
Abilities Raised: DEX: 21
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (15), Concentration +1 (15), UMD +0.5 (7.5)
Feats Selected: Improved Critical (Ranged)
Automatic Feats Granted: Abundant Step
Stats at End of Level 12:
HP:186 SP:0 AC:19 FORT:13 REFL:13 WILL:11 BAB:+9/+9/+14/+19
STR:18(+4) DEX:21(+5) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:20, Bluff:-1, Concentration:20, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:5, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:5, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:6.5


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LEVEL 13
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 13)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (16), Concentration +1 (16), UMD +0.5 (8)
Automatic Feats Granted: Diamond Soul
Stats at End of Level 13:
HP:199 SP:0 AC:19 FORT:13 REFL:13 WILL:11 BAB:+9/+9/+14/+19
STR:18(+4) DEX:21(+5) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:21, Bluff:-1, Concentration:21, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:5, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:5, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:7


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LEVEL 14
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 14)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (17), Concentration +1 (17), UMD +0.5 (8.5)
Stats at End of Level 14:
HP:212 SP:0 AC:19 FORT:14 REFL:14 WILL:12 BAB:+10/+10/+15/+20
STR:18(+4) DEX:21(+5) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:22, Bluff:-1, Concentration:22, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:5, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:5, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:7.5


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LEVEL 15
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 15)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (18), Concentration +1 (18), UMD +0.5 (9)
Feats Selected: Precise Shot
Tomes Applied: DEX: +4
Automatic Feats Granted: Quivering Palm
Stats at End of Level 15:
HP:225 SP:0 AC:20 FORT:14 REFL:15 WILL:12 BAB:+11/+11/+16/+21
STR:18(+4) DEX:22(+6) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:24, Bluff:-1, Concentration:23, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:6, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:6, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:8


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LEVEL 16
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 16)
Abilities Raised: DEX: 23
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (19), Concentration +1 (19), UMD +0.5 (9.5)
Automatic Feats Granted: Ki Strike (Adamantine)
Stats at End of Level 16:
HP:238 SP:0 AC:20 FORT:15 REFL:16 WILL:13 BAB:+12/+12/+17/+22
STR:18(+4) DEX:23(+6) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:25, Bluff:-1, Concentration:24, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:6, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:6, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:8.5


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LEVEL 17
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 17)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (20), Concentration +1 (20), UMD +0.5 (10)
Automatic Feats Granted: Timeless Body
Stats at End of Level 17:
HP:251 SP:0 AC:20 FORT:15 REFL:16 WILL:13 BAB:+12/+12/+17/+22
STR:18(+4) DEX:23(+6) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:26, Bluff:-1, Concentration:25, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:6, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:6, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:9


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LEVEL 18
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 18)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (21), Concentration +1 (21), UMD +0.5 (10.5)
Feats Selected: Rapid Reload
Stats at End of Level 18:
HP:264 SP:0 AC:20 FORT:16 REFL:17 WILL:14 BAB:+13/+13/+18/+23
STR:18(+4) DEX:23(+6) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:27, Bluff:-1, Concentration:26, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:6, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:6, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:9.5


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LEVEL 19
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 19)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (22), Concentration +1 (22), UMD +0.5 (11)
Automatic Feats Granted: Empty Body
Stats at End of Level 19:
HP:277 SP:0 AC:20 FORT:16 REFL:17 WILL:14 BAB:+14/+14/+19/+24
STR:18(+4) DEX:23(+6) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:28, Bluff:-1, Concentration:27, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:6, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:6, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:10


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LEVEL 20
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 20)
Abilities Raised: DEX: 24
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (23), Concentration +1 (23), UMD +0.5 (11.5)
Equipment Mods Changed To: HP: 105, SP: 150, STR: 8, DEX: 16, CON: 10, WIS: 6, FORT: 10, REFL: 10, WILL: 10, Balance: 15, Concentration: 10, UMD: 10
Enhancements Selected: Human Versatility I, Improved Concentration I, Human Improved Recovery I, Way of the Clever Monkey I, Improved Balance I, Monk Improved Recovery I, Elven Dexterity I, The Receptive Earth, Human Versatility II, Lifting the Veil, Improved Cleric Dilettante I, Shintao Monk I, Adept of Wind, Difficulty at the Beginning, Ten Thousand Stars, Elven Arcane Archer I, Human Improved Recovery II, Human Versatility III, Improved Cleric Dilettante II, Arcane Archer (Conjure +2 Arrows), Arcane Archer (Imbue Acid Arrows), Way of the Clever Monkey II, Restoring the Balance, Rise of the Phoenix, Master of Thunder, Arcane Archer (Conjure +3 Arrows), Way of the Clever Monkey III, Improved Cleric Dilettante III, Way of the Clever Monkey IV, Arcane Archer (Conjure +4 Arrows), Arcane Archer (Imbue Terror Arrows), Grandmaster of Storms, Shintao Monk II, Shintao Monk III, Arcane Archer (Imbue Explosive Arrows), Arcane Archer (Conjure +5 Arrows), Monk Serenity, Improved Concentration II, Arcane Archer (Imbue Force Arrows), Arcane Archer (Imbue Slaying Arrows)
Automatic Feats Granted: Perfect Self, Perfect Slow Fall, Shining Star
Stats at End of Level 20:
HP:495 SP:190 AC:33 FORT:32 REFL:37 WILL:29 BAB:+15/+15/+20/+25
STR:26(+8) DEX:41(+15) CON:30(+10) INT:8(-1) WIS:24(+7) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:54, Bluff:-1, Concentration:55, Diplomacy:5, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:3, Heal:13, Hide:15, Intimidate:5, Jump:8, Listen:8, Move Silently:15, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:8, Swim:8, Tumble: n/a, UMD:20.5


I think it might be the first pure monkcher build O: anyways, tryied it out, with spider-spun caparison, pally ED, and easy to gethttp://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Elemental_Longbow_of_Earth_(Level_20)_(Tier_3 ) and maybe sun-soul (wind) REALLY good build with only 10 seconds which you can switch to handwraps of major dpsing. imbue arrows with WHATEVER. their +5 returning AA arrows and its fun to use +20 attack boost with attack boost from versatility III. stand against the tide, as it benefits us GREATLY! may want to twist into sense weakness/haste boost for ultimate awesomeness when having kukan-do/manyshot:10k stars on. gear is pretty easy to get, just faram challenges with expiernced party/solo and deal and demon easy to get robes. level up to 25 fast so you can farm ED and get all up to TIER 6!!! may wanna spend 3rd twist into grandmaster of flowers wind thingy or shiradi champion something.

[connerj]

HP: 495
SP: 190
AC: 33

SAVES
FORT: 32
REFL: 37
WILL: 29

BAB: +15/+15/+20/+25

STR: 26 (+8)
DEX: 41 (+15)
CON: 30 (+10)
INT: 8 (-1)
WIS: 24 (+7)
CHA: 8 (-1)
Balance: 54
Bluff: -1
Concentration: 55
Diplomacy: 5
Disable Device: n/a
Haggle: 3
Heal: 13
Hide: 15
Intimidate: 5
Jump: 8
Listen: 8
Move Silently: 15
Open Lock: n/a
Perform: n/a
Repair: -1
Search: 0
Spot: 8
Swim: 8
Tumble: n/a
UMD: 20.5


OH! cleric dillentatte will help your low UMD, it gets high with abilities and such, so you can passiviely use heal/rez scrolls tried and succeded! just sharing my build, made and owning 3rd life in khyber! highst hit, well i get back to you!

[Munkenmo]

pity you didn't spell Monkcher right.

Seriously though, I failed my save against your wall of text.

[Maxallu]

There are better formats to post builds that will give you a better shot at constructive feedback. I also failed my wall o' text check.

[Deathdefy]

I'm unsure if you're after comments or not, but here are some thoughts anyway -

1) Feats:
I assume your epic feat at level 21 is going to be Improved Martial Arts for the +0.5 W on bow damage.

This gives you the epic feat at 24 still to play with.

To my mind, all of Improved Precise Shot, Manyshot and Bow Strength are critical to making an archer viable.

Given that, I'd take one of them at 24, and swap out Precision and Rapid Reload for the other two.

I know Precision is your pre-req feat for Shintao which brings me to...

2) Enhancements:

Shintao is nice, but I don't think you'll see much benefit from it since your melee will be god-awful anyway with no TWF line (which is fine for a pure archer Monk). The stuns would be occasionally useful, but I think you'll get much more benefit from the 2d6 Sneak Attack + Incorporeal that Ninja Spy gives, as well as the feat slot you can free up (by dropping Precision and Stunning Fist).

I'd also drop Con to 14, and put Wis up to 16, and go with Grandmaster of Oceans (rather than Storms) for the Passive Ki regen bonus and +4 Wisdom to allow you to keep Ten Thousand Stars pumping out arrows when Manyshot is down.


2) Spell points:
Are you packing enough Sorc and Favored Soul Past Lives such that you have the Spell Points (50) to cast Imbue Slaying Arrows?

Or do SP granting items work on characters with a blue bar solely from Past Lives now? (This is totally possibly true; I haven't checked.)

3) HP:
Are you packing enough Barb Past Lives such that you can get away with skipping toughness? If you do decide you want toughness - which I probably would on this build - as stated above, I'd ditch Stunning Fist to make room.

4) Where are your level-up stat points going?
I honestly just can't tell due to the tome additions, etc. I'd recommend Wisdom (for more arrows during Ten Thousand Stars), but can see why someone might go Strength. I wouldn't put them in Dex.


The Pure 20 Monk Archer is a cool concept though. I'm unsure how it'd play out, but it might be awesome.

[t0r012]

First glaring issue I see , you are not proficient in bows (unless zen archery grants proficiency but last I checked it didn't)

Second is rapid reload , only works with crossbows

Last is you take zen archery then load up on Dex?
Since you aren't taking IPS I see no reason to do so. Enough dex for precise shot and rest In to wisdom.

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All that said , there is a reason you don't see pure monk archer builds. Without a splash in one of the ranged classes to get the freebie feats you have to eat entirely way too many feats.

[Deathdefy]

First glaring issue I see , you are not proficient in bows (unless zen archery grants proficiency but last I checked it didn't)

Second is rapid reload , only works with crossbows

Last is you take zen archery then load up on Dex?
Since you aren't taking IPS I see no reason to do so. Enough dex for precise shot and rest In to wisdom.

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All that said , there is a reason you don't see pure monk archer builds. Without a splash in one of the ranged classes to get the freebie feats you have to eat entirely way too many feats.

Good spot. I'd re-organize the OP again such that you take Proficiency in Longbow instead of what I'd assumed would be "Improved Martial Arts".

It's not as easy as just swapping some out for others due to BAB, Pre-reqs and other requirements now since you'd obviously want proficiency in Longbow as early as possible, but you have the number of feat slots to still make this work.

[ZeebaNeighba]

First glaring issue I see , you are not proficient in bows (unless zen archery grants proficiency but last I checked it didn't)

Second is rapid reload , only works with crossbows

Last is you take zen archery then load up on Dex?
Since you aren't taking IPS I see no reason to do so. Enough dex for precise shot and rest In to wisdom.

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All that said , there is a reason you don't see pure monk archer builds. Without a splash in one of the ranged classes to get the freebie feats you have to eat entirely way too many feats.

I suggest that a pure monkcher build would simply be so feat starved that it would be best to lesser into it at lv21 or 24...

If you do that, then relying on Windhowler Bracers (ML 13) for proficiency should work fine, and gives a bit of extra damage on top of that (+1 physical, +2 to hit, 30+5d6 sonic on vorpals with no save, I have tested that one it is not like the description)

I actually have thought about the build before, now that Sorc past life can theoretically allow a pure monkcher. The feats I believe would go something like

(In no particular order, since I planned on lessering into the build)

Regular+Epic (9):
Point Blank Shot
Weapon Focus Ranged
Sorc active past life
Rapid Shot (rapid reload does not work for bows at all, and that is WAI, only rapid shot works)
Manyshot
IC: Ranged
Bow Strength
Precise Shot
Improved Precise Shot

Monk special (3):
Precision
Zen Archery
Toughness

As other people have pointed out, IPS, Manyshot, and Bow Strength are simply crucial for any archer build, and it will take a while to get all the feats you want due to prerequisites and BAB requirements and the fact that you only get most of your feats every 3 levels. You also won't be able to use 10k stars that many times until you get some passive ki regeneration, and your handwraps fighting will blow. So that's why I would want to use the free lesser to get to it.

[Brennie]

Regular+Epic (9):
Point Blank Shot
Weapon Focus Ranged
Sorc active past life
Rapid Shot (rapid reload does not work for bows at all, and that is WAI, only rapid shot works)
Manyshot
IC: Ranged
Bow Strength
Precise Shot
Improved Precise Shot

Monk special (3):
Precision
Zen Archery
Toughness

This is the only way I see a pure monkcher being remotely viable. And even then, its a tough sell. Once Combat Archery and Improved Martial Arts get fixed (Last i heard they were not giving any +[w] bonuses to Ranged combat, and I have not seen any patch notes that they have been addressed since then), this build will be missing a decent chunk of epic damage due to feat restrictions.

An alternative to this route could be ranger Dilli, as mentioned by an earlier poster. Bow proficiency and mini bow strength could work out well, though it will eat into you AP and will effectively softcap your strength at 26. Even for a max wisdom build, that is a rather low benchmark. It would free up a feat and let you swap out windhowlers, though (Perhaps for the Bracers of the SunSoul - great item from a great set!).

OP - There is a reason you don't see pure monkchers.

[Thrudh]

No Bow Strength, no Improved Precise Shot, no Manyshot.

And you're not even Wisdom based for better stunning and more 10k star arrows.

Not much of an archer.

[scottmike0]

OMG!!!!

BUILD ID: 34945

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PAST LIVES SELECTED:
Cleric (1), Sorcerer (1)

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LEVEL 1
Race Selected: Male Half-Elf
Alignment Selected: Lawful Neutral
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 1)
Abilities Raised: STR: 16, DEX: 16, CON: 16, WIS: 14
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +4 (4), Concentration +4 (4), UMD +2 (2)
Feats Selected: Point Blank Shot, Half-Elf Dilettante (Cleric), Dodge
Automatic Feats Granted: Past Life (Cleric), Past Life (Sorcerer), Attack, Heroic Durability, Sneak, Armor Class Bonus (Wisdom), Finishing Moves, Flurry of Blows, Half-Elf Keen Senses, Half-Elf Mixed Heritage, Half-Elf Social Graces, Immunity to Sleep, Unarmed Strike, Simple Weapons (Club), Simple Weapons (Dagger), Simple Weapons (Heavy Crossbow), Simple Weapons (Light Crossbow), Simple Weapons (Quarterstaff), Simple Weapons (Unarmed), Martial Weapons (Handaxe), Exotic Weapons (Kama), Exotic Weapons (Shuriken), Disciple of Breezes, Disciple of Candles, Disciple of Pebbles, Disciple of Puddles
Stats at End of Level 1:
HP:31 SP:0 AC:15 FORT:5 REFL:5 WILL:4 BAB:+0/+0
STR:16(+3) DEX:16(+3) CON:16(+3) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:7, Bluff:-1, Concentration:7, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1, Jump:3, Listen:3, Move Silently:3, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:3, Tumble: n/a, UMD:1


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LEVEL 2
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (5), Concentration +1 (5), UMD +0.5 (2.5)
Feats Selected: Zen Archery
Automatic Feats Granted: Armor Class Bonus, Defensive Fighting, Evasion, Meditation, Sunder, Trip
Stats at End of Level 2:
HP:42 SP:0 AC:16 FORT:6 REFL:6 WILL:5 BAB:+1/+1/+6
STR:16(+3) DEX:16(+3) CON:16(+3) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:8, Bluff:-1, Concentration:8, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1, Jump:3, Listen:3, Move Silently:3, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:3, Tumble: n/a, UMD:1.5


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LEVEL 3
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 3)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (6), Concentration +1 (6), UMD +0.5 (3)
Feats Selected: Past Life (Arcane Prodigy), Path of Harmonious Balance
Tomes Applied: DEX: +1, CON: +1
Favor Bonus Granted: Draconic Vitality (15 Agents of Argonnessen Favor)
Automatic Feats Granted: Fast Movement, Still Mind
Stats at End of Level 3:
HP:63 SP:0 AC:16 FORT:6 REFL:6 WILL:5 BAB:+2/+2/+7
STR:16(+3) DEX:17(+3) CON:17(+3) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:9, Bluff:-1, Concentration:9, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1, Jump:3, Listen:3, Move Silently:3, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:3, Tumble: n/a, UMD:2


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LEVEL 4
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 4)
Abilities Raised: CON: 18
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (7), Concentration +1 (7), UMD +0.5 (3.5)
Automatic Feats Granted: Ki Strike (Magic), Slow Fall
Stats at End of Level 4:
HP:78 SP:0 AC:16 FORT:8 REFL:7 WILL:6 BAB:+3/+3/+8/+13
STR:16(+3) DEX:17(+3) CON:18(+4) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:10, Bluff:-1, Concentration:11, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1, Jump:3, Listen:3, Move Silently:3, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:3, Tumble: n/a, UMD:2.5


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LEVEL 5
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 5)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (8), Concentration +1 (8), UMD +0.5 (4)
Automatic Feats Granted: Purity of Body
Stats at End of Level 5:
HP:90 SP:0 AC:16 FORT:8 REFL:7 WILL:6 BAB:+3/+3/+8/+13
STR:16(+3) DEX:17(+3) CON:18(+4) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:11, Bluff:-1, Concentration:12, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1, Jump:3, Listen:3, Move Silently:3, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:3, Tumble: n/a, UMD:3


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LEVEL 6
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 6)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (9), Concentration +1 (9), UMD +0.5 (4.5)
Feats Selected: Weapon Focus (Ranged), Stunning Fist
Stats at End of Level 6:
HP:102 SP:0 AC:16 FORT:9 REFL:8 WILL:7 BAB:+4/+4/+9/+14
STR:16(+3) DEX:17(+3) CON:18(+4) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:12, Bluff:-1, Concentration:13, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1, Jump:3, Listen:3, Move Silently:3, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:3, Tumble: n/a, UMD:3.5


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LEVEL 7
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 7)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (10), Concentration +1 (10), UMD +0.5 (5)
Tomes Applied: STR: +2, CON: +2
Automatic Feats Granted: Wholeness of Body
Stats at End of Level 7:
HP:114 SP:0 AC:16 FORT:9 REFL:8 WILL:7 BAB:+5/+5/+10/+15
STR:18(+4) DEX:17(+3) CON:19(+4) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:13, Bluff:-1, Concentration:14, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:3, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:3, Move Silently:3, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:4


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LEVEL 8
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 8)
Abilities Raised: DEX: 18
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (11), Concentration +1 (11), UMD +0.5 (5.5)
Stats at End of Level 8:
HP:126 SP:0 AC:17 FORT:10 REFL:10 WILL:8 BAB:+6/+6/+11/+16
STR:18(+4) DEX:18(+4) CON:19(+4) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:15, Bluff:-1, Concentration:15, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:4, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:3, Move Silently:4, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:4.5


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LEVEL 9
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 9)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (12), Concentration +1 (12), UMD +0.5 (6)
Feats Selected: Precision
Automatic Feats Granted: Improved Evasion
Stats at End of Level 9:
HP:138 SP:0 AC:17 FORT:10 REFL:10 WILL:8 BAB:+6/+6/+11/+16
STR:18(+4) DEX:18(+4) CON:19(+4) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:16, Bluff:-1, Concentration:16, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:4, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:3, Move Silently:4, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:5


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LEVEL 10
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 10)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (13), Concentration +1 (13), UMD +0.5 (6.5)
Automatic Feats Granted: Ki Strike (Lawful)
Stats at End of Level 10:
HP:150 SP:0 AC:17 FORT:11 REFL:11 WILL:9 BAB:+7/+7/+12/+17
STR:18(+4) DEX:18(+4) CON:19(+4) INT:8(-1) WIS:14(+2) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:17, Bluff:-1, Concentration:17, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:2, Hide:4, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:3, Move Silently:4, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:3, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:5.5


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LEVEL 11
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 11)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (14), Concentration +1 (14), UMD +0.5 (7)
Tomes Applied: DEX: +3, CON: +3, WIS: +2
Automatic Feats Granted: Diamond Body
Stats at End of Level 11:
HP:173 SP:0 AC:19 FORT:12 REFL:12 WILL:10 BAB:+8/+8/+13/+18
STR:18(+4) DEX:20(+5) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:19, Bluff:-1, Concentration:19, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:5, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:5, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:6


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LEVEL 12
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 12)
Abilities Raised: DEX: 21
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (15), Concentration +1 (15), UMD +0.5 (7.5)
Feats Selected: Improved Critical (Ranged)
Automatic Feats Granted: Abundant Step
Stats at End of Level 12:
HP:186 SP:0 AC:19 FORT:13 REFL:13 WILL:11 BAB:+9/+9/+14/+19
STR:18(+4) DEX:21(+5) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:20, Bluff:-1, Concentration:20, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:5, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:5, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:6.5


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LEVEL 13
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 13)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (16), Concentration +1 (16), UMD +0.5 (8)
Automatic Feats Granted: Diamond Soul
Stats at End of Level 13:
HP:199 SP:0 AC:19 FORT:13 REFL:13 WILL:11 BAB:+9/+9/+14/+19
STR:18(+4) DEX:21(+5) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:21, Bluff:-1, Concentration:21, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:5, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:5, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:7


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LEVEL 14
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 14)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (17), Concentration +1 (17), UMD +0.5 (8.5)
Stats at End of Level 14:
HP:212 SP:0 AC:19 FORT:14 REFL:14 WILL:12 BAB:+10/+10/+15/+20
STR:18(+4) DEX:21(+5) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:22, Bluff:-1, Concentration:22, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:5, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:5, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:7.5


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LEVEL 15
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 15)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (18), Concentration +1 (18), UMD +0.5 (9)
Feats Selected: Precise Shot
Tomes Applied: DEX: +4
Automatic Feats Granted: Quivering Palm
Stats at End of Level 15:
HP:225 SP:0 AC:20 FORT:14 REFL:15 WILL:12 BAB:+11/+11/+16/+21
STR:18(+4) DEX:22(+6) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:24, Bluff:-1, Concentration:23, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:6, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:6, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:8


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LEVEL 16
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 16)
Abilities Raised: DEX: 23
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (19), Concentration +1 (19), UMD +0.5 (9.5)
Automatic Feats Granted: Ki Strike (Adamantine)
Stats at End of Level 16:
HP:238 SP:0 AC:20 FORT:15 REFL:16 WILL:13 BAB:+12/+12/+17/+22
STR:18(+4) DEX:23(+6) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:25, Bluff:-1, Concentration:24, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:6, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:6, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:8.5


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LEVEL 17
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 17)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (20), Concentration +1 (20), UMD +0.5 (10)
Automatic Feats Granted: Timeless Body
Stats at End of Level 17:
HP:251 SP:0 AC:20 FORT:15 REFL:16 WILL:13 BAB:+12/+12/+17/+22
STR:18(+4) DEX:23(+6) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:26, Bluff:-1, Concentration:25, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:6, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:6, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:9


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LEVEL 18
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 18)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (21), Concentration +1 (21), UMD +0.5 (10.5)
Feats Selected: Rapid Reload
Stats at End of Level 18:
HP:264 SP:0 AC:20 FORT:16 REFL:17 WILL:14 BAB:+13/+13/+18/+23
STR:18(+4) DEX:23(+6) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:27, Bluff:-1, Concentration:26, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:6, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:6, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:9.5


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LEVEL 19
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 19)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (22), Concentration +1 (22), UMD +0.5 (11)
Automatic Feats Granted: Empty Body
Stats at End of Level 19:
HP:277 SP:0 AC:20 FORT:16 REFL:17 WILL:14 BAB:+14/+14/+19/+24
STR:18(+4) DEX:23(+6) CON:20(+5) INT:8(-1) WIS:16(+3) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:28, Bluff:-1, Concentration:27, Diplomacy:-1, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:-1, Heal:3, Hide:6, Intimidate:-1, Jump:4, Listen:4, Move Silently:6, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:4, Swim:4, Tumble: n/a, UMD:10


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LEVEL 20
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 20)
Abilities Raised: DEX: 24
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (23), Concentration +1 (23), UMD +0.5 (11.5)
Equipment Mods Changed To: HP: 105, SP: 150, STR: 8, DEX: 16, CON: 10, WIS: 6, FORT: 10, REFL: 10, WILL: 10, Balance: 15, Concentration: 10, UMD: 10
Enhancements Selected: Human Versatility I, Improved Concentration I, Human Improved Recovery I, Way of the Clever Monkey I, Improved Balance I, Monk Improved Recovery I, Elven Dexterity I, The Receptive Earth, Human Versatility II, Lifting the Veil, Improved Cleric Dilettante I, Shintao Monk I, Adept of Wind, Difficulty at the Beginning, Ten Thousand Stars, Elven Arcane Archer I, Human Improved Recovery II, Human Versatility III, Improved Cleric Dilettante II, Arcane Archer (Conjure +2 Arrows), Arcane Archer (Imbue Acid Arrows), Way of the Clever Monkey II, Restoring the Balance, Rise of the Phoenix, Master of Thunder, Arcane Archer (Conjure +3 Arrows), Way of the Clever Monkey III, Improved Cleric Dilettante III, Way of the Clever Monkey IV, Arcane Archer (Conjure +4 Arrows), Arcane Archer (Imbue Terror Arrows), Grandmaster of Storms, Shintao Monk II, Shintao Monk III, Arcane Archer (Imbue Explosive Arrows), Arcane Archer (Conjure +5 Arrows), Monk Serenity, Improved Concentration II, Arcane Archer (Imbue Force Arrows), Arcane Archer (Imbue Slaying Arrows)
Automatic Feats Granted: Perfect Self, Perfect Slow Fall, Shining Star
Stats at End of Level 20:
HP:495 SP:190 AC:33 FORT:32 REFL:37 WILL:29 BAB:+15/+15/+20/+25
STR:26(+8) DEX:41(+15) CON:30(+10) INT:8(-1) WIS:24(+7) CHA:8(-1)
Balance:54, Bluff:-1, Concentration:55, Diplomacy:5, Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:3, Heal:13, Hide:15, Intimidate:5, Jump:8, Listen:8, Move Silently:15, Open Lock: n/a, Perform: n/a, Repair:-1, Search:0, Spot:8, Swim:8, Tumble: n/a, UMD:20.5


I think it might be the first pure monkcher build O: anyways, tryied it out, with spider-spun caparison, pally ED, and easy to gethttp://ddowiki.com/page/Epic_Elemental_Longbow_of_Earth_(Level_20)_(Tier_3 ) and maybe sun-soul (wind) REALLY good build with only 10 seconds which you can switch to handwraps of major dpsing. imbue arrows with WHATEVER. their +5 returning AA arrows and its fun to use +20 attack boost with attack boost from versatility III. stand against the tide, as it benefits us GREATLY! may want to twist into sense weakness/haste boost for ultimate awesomeness when having kukan-do/manyshot:10k stars on. gear is pretty easy to get, just faram challenges with expiernced party/solo and deal and demon easy to get robes. level up to 25 fast so you can farm ED and get all up to TIER 6!!! may wanna spend 3rd twist into grandmaster of flowers wind thingy or shiradi champion something.

going to try to build one my self ... based off of mah pure monk with some archer feats because i mean who wouldnt do such

awww.... I just noticed you did not fit melee in the monk

[Siftrant]

going to try to build one my self ... based off of mah pure monk with some archer feats because i mean who wouldnt do such

awww.... I just noticed you did not fit melee in the monk

you really had to re-post the entire wall-of-text from the op?

[scottmike0]

you really had to re-post the entire wall-of-text from the op?

well..... im not that computer literate on replying to a post.....
please tell me what is the best way to reply to a wall of text?
i can understand Lua... I can understand language... but I cannot understand replying.

[ZeebaNeighba]

well..... im not that computer literate on replying to a post.....
please tell me what is the best way to reply to a wall of text?
i can understand Lua... I can understand language... but I cannot understand replying.

Maybe,

Wall of text monkcher build

/snip

[goodspeed]

usually the entire point of even using the monk is to have a real reason to have a bow in your hand outside of manyshot. And for that wis is needed in spades. Just stacked.

Theirs a thread somewhere with the numbers all tested out. But the quick end is, unless you do have a grand grand wis mod, you still might as well not have the bow. If ur firing even 2 arrows most of the time ur still just capsizing. It needs to hit 3 reliably.

Otherwise no matter the class you end up like that dude I saw in EN von 5. He might of had the shir ED, but all I saw was this sliver of red slowly, agonizingly reluctantly going down. Meanwhile I turn around, stun and beat the other robot down in 3 seconds. Then I turn back around to still see it sloooowly going down.

And also I don't even see manyshot. That's literally THE feat for range. To even pick up a bow on the monk would just hinder dps extremely.

[Expalphalog]

In addition to all of the other myriad problems mentioned above: This is a pure build and you posted it in the Multiclass forum.

I'm not usually one to say 'fail' as it is both rude, and godawful grammar to boot, but I think this thread may qualify.

[unbongwah]

I could see this (sorta) working after a few tweaks:

• Take rgr dilly instead of cleric for bow prof. and (limited) Bow STR.
• Put more into WIS; lower STR & CON if need be. Only need enough DEX for ranged pre-reqs (21 for Combat Archery).
• Drop Rapid Reload (xbow-only) for Imp Prec Shot; swap Stunning Fist for Manyshot; move Precision to lvl 6 monk feat.
• Epic feats: Imp Martial Arts and Combat Archery.

That said, I consider monk 6 or monk 12 the "sweet spot" for monkchers; you need too many darn feats to be successfully - more so if you want melee too.

[connerj]

First glaring issue I see , you are not proficient in bows (unless zen archery grants proficiency but last I checked it didn't)

Second is rapid reload , only works with crossbows

Last is you take zen archery then load up on Dex?
Since you aren't taking IPS I see no reason to do so. Enough dex for precise shot and rest In to wisdom.

THis does grant proficinecy.... i only take zen for center. shinato is for kukan do/metal bypass(byeshk, such)
oopsie, rapid shot
new feats:
switch out rapid shot for toughness, if you'd like that and i took precision because i think its beetter now for dps, 25% crit bypass, and +5% stacking to hit. manyshot, IPS for 21, 24

[Expalphalog]

THis does grant proficinecy

Are you sure? I'm not seeing Proficiency anywhere in that build, and I cannot find any resources that indicate Zen Archery grants it.

[connerj]

I just read some more posts....
Regular+Epic (9):
Point Blank Shot
Weapon Focus Ranged
Sorc active past life
Rapid Shot/precision/toughness
Manyshot
IC: Ranged
Bow Strength
Precise Shot
Improved Precise Shot

Monk special (3):
Precision/toughness
Zen Archery
stunning fist


not in any way whatsoever, a STR based BOW build. enough wisdom to keep up 2 i think? well, it is on my build
I would just LOVE to see the wrongdoings in this build soem more, please keep posting i need more help and you guys are providing it!(seriously, no sarcasm) as for 1-24, make a greater TWF-stunning-vorpal striking-700+fire/earth stance-boss build