DrowTempest? (Speculation Build)Bard 16/ Ftr 2/ Rogue 2 (32pt)

[Deivonte]

I know this build is usually built human but I'd heard that Drow might get tempest PrE so I made a speculation build. I used rapiers as main weapons because Epic Elyd's Edge is a rapier and there are plenty of rapiers out there but build uses shortswords as well.

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Level 20 True Neutral Drow Male
(2 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 16 Bard) 
Hit Points: 280
Spell Points: 535 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 17
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    25
Dexterity            16                    18
Constitution         14                    17
Intelligence         14                    16
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             12                    15

Tomes Used
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 1
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               8                     9
Bluff                 6                     7
Concentration         3                     3
Diplomacy             6                     7
Disable Device        6                    26
Haggle                6                     9
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  4                     4
Intimidate            2                     6
Jump                  8                    16
Listen                0                     2
Move Silently         4                     4
Open Lock             8                     9
Perform               n/a                  25
Repair                2                     3
Search                6                    28
Spot                  4                    21
Swim                  4                     7
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      6                    25

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Rogue)


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 4 (Bard)


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons


Level 7 (Bard)


Level 8 (Bard)


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 11 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Bard)


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 16 (Bard)


Level 17 (Bard)


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 19 (Bard)


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Drow Weapon Attack I
Enhancement: Drow Weapon Damage I
Enhancement: Drow Weapon Damage II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic IV
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music III
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III

[unbongwah]

Looks pretty standard. Not sure why you backloaded your TWF feats, though. I also find WC kinda meh these days; I would consider Virt or a heal-specced SS instead, in part so you can take something more useful than WF:P.

[DethTrip]

If you are trying to do melee dps, I would suggest going for HO and taking all the thf enhancements. Take power attack, cleave and great cleave to qualify for overwhelming critical. Just depends on what you are trying to do with the guy. My experience playing a melee bard is to go with 12bard/6ftr/2rog. Fascinate still works great in epics and its about all the CC you need imo. Then you can take Legendary Dreadnought and twist in sense weakness and reign. Also, you can't use +3 tomes at lvl1. +1 at 3, +2 at 7, +3 at 11. Below is an example of a min max dps warchanter build.

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Level 20 True Neutral Half-Orc Male
(6 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 12 Bard) 
Hit Points: 316
Spell Points: 325 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 13
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             20                    31
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma              6                     8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                     8
Bluff                -2                     0
Concentration         3                     5
Diplomacy            -2                     0
Disable Device        5                    25
Haggle                2                     3
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate           -2                     4
Jump                  9                    21
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock             3                     4
Perform              n/a                   22
Repair                1                     2
Search                5                    25
Spot                  3                     4
Swim                  5                    10
Tumble                3                     4
Use Magic Device      2                    22

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave


Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow


Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+6)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)


Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack III
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude I
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I

[voodoogroves]

If you are trying to do melee dps, I would suggest going for HO and taking all the thf enhancements. Take power attack, cleave and great cleave to qualify for overwhelming critical. Just depends on what you are trying to do with the guy. My experience playing a melee bard is to go with 12bard/6ftr/2rog. Fascinate still works great in epics and its about all the CC you need imo. Then you can take Legendary Dreadnought and twist in sense weakness and reign. Also, you can't use +3 tomes at lvl1. +1 at 3, +2 at 7, +3 at 11. Below is an example of a min max dps warchanter build.

I think he's caring more about exploiting the drow ability to take Tempest than other more generic "bard DPS".

That said, I think a Half-Orc w/ the racial-Frenzied classed in would also be beastly - but still off topic on his theme/theory build.