Looking for 2nd life bard build for tr group(I know it's hard to read forums hate me)

[whereispowderedsilve]

Note: I know it's hard to read the forums hate me though. I try put it in Word 2010 for formatting no luck!

If a kind soul could or would format it to be more readable I would *greatly* appreciate it! Thanks in advance! xD! Cheers!

Ok so in a couple of weeks or so will be tring what used to be my main build & how most people on Orien came to know me by.

However since/when MOTU/the expansion came by it turned out he was to squishy as a 1st life drow!

Even missing my +45 gs hp item & a toughness item would put me at about 462 hps which is just to low now a days.

Maybe if I leveled up in LD ED it would perhaps be ok but eventually I would want FS ED.

So anywhoo decided I would tr him into another bard human, was thinking 15 bard 5 fighter THF or something along those lines(MUST be THF).

Or maybe helf with pally dilly. The tr group is not a get to 20 & then tr again group so want it to be strong while leveling up & when hitting 20

to contribute in Raids & in EH content. EE as a goal in the farflung future. Have lots of peeps & a few guild mates I never ever solo.

Also am part of a channel that is able to do raids.

The TR group will have a 4th life 18 cleric 2 monk(3 PLs as monk)

This build here(a 3rd life ranger monkcher) major props to kinerd!

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...11&postcount=2

& a 3rd life 18 barb 2 rogue here:

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=10

& a 4th life pm caster build here:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=397640

Here is the build I threw together but I have always relied on builds from the forums so would greatly appreciate someone posting a build for me!

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trtestbard bardsarethebest
Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
(5 Fighter \ 15 Bard) 
Hit Points: 282
Spell Points: 536 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 13
Will: 11

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             16                 23                   25
Dexterity            14                 16                   16
Constitution         14                 16                   16
Intelligence         12                 14                   14
Wisdom               10                 12                   12
Charisma             14                 16                   18

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               4                 26                   26
Bluff                 2                  4                    4
Concentration         4                 26                   26
Diplomacy             2                  4                    4
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                 27                   27
Heal                  0                  1                    1
Hide                  2                  3                    3
Intimidate            2                  5                    5
Jump                  7                 30                   30
Listen                0                  1                    1
Move Silently         2                  3                    3
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a               27                   27
Repair                1                  2                    2
Search                1                  2                    2
Spot                  0                  1                    1
Swim                  3                  7                    7
Tumble                n/a               17                   17
Use Magic Device      4                 27                   27

Level 1 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Perform (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Spell (1): Focusing Chant
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I


Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Blur
Spell (2): Rage
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Human Versatility II


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder
Spell (1): Feather Fall
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II


Level 10 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+3)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II


Level 11 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Invisibility
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Displacement
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Spell (3): Haste
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II


Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 14 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song I


Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Spell (3): Good Hope
Spell (4): Dimension Door
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+3)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II


Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song IV


Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Spell (4): Break Enchantment
Spell (5): Greater Heroism
Spell (5): Greater Dispel Magic
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (5): Mind Fog


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III

Note: The preceding build/post I have no idea what I'm doing so I'm sure it is horrible! >><<!

My bard build I would like THF melee with songs as cc & back up healing. I do not want nor need rogue levels please this life! Min 15 bard levels though please!

***Note: I totally forgot I want virt this life not wc! Totally forgot to put that into the build! This is why I DON'T do builds! >><<! DERP!***

So some kind of bard/fighter/barb mix. Please let me know if any other info is needed!

Gear wise I will have a lit2 GS, my gs goggles are not correct I will have to deconstruct them, +5 cha skills I am thinking. Of course +45 gs hp item but which slot?

Also have the bard's cloak from VoD. Make other suggestions from raids or house c challenges for gear while leveling up please & thanks!

P.S. This is my current life: props to tihocan! http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...06&postcount=6

http://my.ddo.com/character/orien/goraiders/

http://ddocrafting.info/index.php?se...kup%21&p=myddo

It has really been parked the past 2 months while working on my other 1st ever TR & my other toons!

[katz]

a few questions for you:

is there a particular reason you favor the 5 levels of fighter, or would a different split be acceptable?


is there a reason for 12 starting int? skill points?


i know you said you didn't need rogue, but even if you don't do the trapping skills at all, evasion is darn nice to have... especially if you do something like pair it with h.elf dilly paladin and a bard's charisma. are you completely opposed to adding rogue? or are you open to the idea?

[whereispowderedsilve]

a few questions for you:

is there a particular reason you favor the 5 levels of fighter, or would a different split be acceptable?


is there a reason for 12 starting int? skill points?


i know you said you didn't need rogue, but even if you don't do the trapping skills at all, evasion is darn nice to have... especially if you do something like pair it with h.elf dilly paladin and a bard's charisma. are you completely opposed to adding rogue? or are you open to the idea?

**Note I am *very* hungry while writing this reply so I may not be thinking clearly/focusing/concentrating enough!**

#1 Thanks *so* much for stopping by katz/pointless! Really appreciate you taking time out of your busy day to help me out! :P! Super respect your opinion!

#2. No 5 levels of fighter I had no idea what I was doing, I want Min 15 bard levels for inspire heroics & inspire excellence the rest can be a combo

of fighter & barb levels(or something else entirely that makes sense). Or 16/2/2 as well is a possibility or 15/3/2 or 15/4/1.

Also I *want* virt pre this life!. So only 2 requirements: Min 15 bard levels & virt pre(I want to melee & cc through songs & some back up healing).

#3. The 12 starting int, again, not really can dump those 2 points into either str/con/dex whatever makes the most sense.

#4. I have no light armors on that current toons life at all(as it being a 18 bard/1 fighter/1 barb).

Light armor options at lower levels cannith crafted invulnerability until level 7 or 8 then lifeshield with inv with masterful craftsmanship or another

prefix/suffix. The snake skin armor? Parasitic breastplate with +10 reflex added, the gh tor armors at mid levels. High levels goristo hide.

The low level & mid level armor I have already(tor scales quite easy to farm out). Goristo hide not so much. I'd rather not farm even more stuff than

needed. That toon has mostly mithral/medium armors to wear. I know evasion with high/good saves is smexy. (You probably know all this already

my apologies in advance). I suppose I could *consider* adding 2 rogue levels. But rather not this life anyways!

Again thanks so much for stopping by & replying! Your awesome & really appreciated! :P! ! ! Cheers!

[katz]

ok. one teeny tiny problem with not having light armor... as a virtuoso as opposed to warchanter, you'll have arcane spell fail in medium armor. i'm facing this same thing with Pointless right now, as i, for the sake of experimentation, respecced to virt (lovin' it, by the way) AFTER i got a set of upgraded Terrorweb Chitin . so i'm just dealing with it, and wearing different armor when it's vital for me to have no spell fail or in situations where i NEED my evasion.

*whatever* of invulnerability should carry you to at least 8-10 or so.


OPTION ONE: human 16 bard/4 fighter

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goraiders build1
Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
(4 Fighter \ 16 Bard) 
Hit Points: 328
Spell Points: 500 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 12
Will: 11


                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             17                    25
Dexterity            10                    12
Constitution         17                    20
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             12                    16


Tomes Used
+2 to everything

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               2                    24
Bluff                 2                     3
Concentration         5                    28
Diplomacy             2                    11
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                3                    26
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  1                     1
Intimidate            2                     3
Jump                  8                    30
Listen                0                     4
Move Silently         1                     1
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                  35
Repair                1                     1
Search                1                     1
Spot                  0                     0
Swim                  4                     8
Tumble                2                     2
Use Magic Device      n/a                  26

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Toughness




Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting




Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Perform




Level 4 (Bard)




Level 5 (Bard)




Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave




Level 7 (Bard)




Level 8 (Bard)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Music of the Dead
Enhancement: Bard Virtuoso I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Perform I
Enhancement: Improved Perform II
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II




Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting




Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons




Level 11 (Bard)




Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell




Level 13 (Bard)




Level 14 (Bard)




Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting




Level 16 (Bard)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Music of Makers
Enhancement: Bard Virtuoso II
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III




Level 17 (Bard)




Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder




Level 19 (Bard)




Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song IV
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III

potential HP at 20: 328 +60 (+6 con item) +30 (GFL item. add 40 if have the 40HP version) +20 (toughness item) +45 (GS HP item) +20 ship buff +20 rage spell = 523 easily sustainable, and the second you add in epic levels, epic gear, and epic destinies the rules go right out the window (hence my posting a pic of Pointless with 800+ HPs recently ).


epic feats: Inspire Excellence and Overwhelming Crit.




IF you do change your mind and decide to go with a rogue splash for evasion, here's:
OPTION TWO: half-elf 16 bard/2 fighter/2 rogue

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goraiders build2
Level 20 Neutral Good Half-Elf Male
(2 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 16 Bard) 
Hit Points: 280
Spell Points: 500 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 17
Will: 12


                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    24
Dexterity            13                    15
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             13                    17


Tomes Used
+2 to everything

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    25
Bluff                 2                     3
Concentration         6                    27
Diplomacy             2                     7
Disable Device        6                     6
Haggle                6                    26
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  2                     2
Intimidate            2                     3
Jump                  4                    30
Listen                0                     4
Move Silently         2                     2
Open Lock             6                    14
Perform               n/a                  35
Repair                2                     2
Search                6                     6
Spot                  4                     4
Swim                  4                     7
Tumble                6                     7
Use Magic Device      6                    26

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Selected) Toughness




Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack




Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting




Level 4 (Bard)




Level 5 (Bard)




Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Perform




Level 7 (Bard)




Level 8 (Bard)




Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Music of the Dead
Enhancement: Bard Virtuoso I
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Perform I
Enhancement: Improved Perform II
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II




Level 10 (Rogue)




Level 11 (Bard)




Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell




Level 13 (Bard)




Level 14 (Bard)




Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons




Level 16 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song IV
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Music of Makers
Enhancement: Bard Virtuoso II
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III




Level 17 (Bard)




Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting




Level 19 (Bard)




Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante III
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II

potential HPs: 280 +60 (+6 con item) +30 (GFL item. add 40 if have the 40HP version) +20 (toughness item) +45 (GS HP item) +20 ship buff +20 rage spell = 475 easily sustainable. a little lower, yeah, but still respectable, and as i said before, the HPs amp way up the second you step past 20.
reflex save: 17 +3 (+6 dex item) +1 (ship buff) +4 (greater heroism) +5 (resistance item) = 30 easily. this is only counting a +5 resistance item,. they go up to 7 now. and i know i'm forgetting things, so you could get it even higher for a very survivable evasion at top end game.

[voodoogroves]

If you have half-orc, this may work for you:

Bard (7): Toughness, THF, ITHF, GTHF, Cleave, Great Cleave, SF Perform
Fighter (2): PA, Improved Crit
Epic (2): Inspire Excellence, Overwhelming Critical

Order would be something like
(1) Toughness
(2) Fighter - PA
(3) Cleave
(6) SF Perform ... you can swap this out later if you have the AP for extra song 4
(9) Great Cleave
(12) THF
(15) ITHF
(18) GTHF

Fighter somewhere for Improved Crit (Slash) - maybe around 14 after you have Virt2?

If you swap out SF Perform, I'd suggest Quicken, Maximize or Extend. You can make the case for any of them easily.

You have the ability to tack on Barb2 if you like, or any other class split. Personally, I'm not against a late Wizard 1 for an extra feat if you find you want it (this would allow you to have both Quicken and Maximize, for instance).

Attributes would be 6 points into CON, CHA, INT ... 16 full points into STR with all levels. Skills concentrate, perform, UMD then whatever suits you - balance, diplomacy, bluff, haggle, listen, etc.


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Regardless, go Neutral and look at crafting Stability items. Life Shield of (whatever) Stability is a pretty rocking set of armor.

[whereispowderedsilve]

Thank you Katz & voodoo! Really appreciate taking the time out of your days to help me out! !

Those builds look good to me!

Now the one concern with the arcane spell failure, I logged in & took this screen cap on Goraiders(build is in the bottom of OP):


epiccavplatetier3 by hadouken321, on Flickr

Now only enhancement or feat that I can figure out was elven arcane fluidity? That would reduce it but tooltip only says by 5%.

So not sure how I reduced it to zero?

Keep the builds coming folks! The more options the better! Thanks again super appreciated! :P! ! !

[katz]

you have zero spell fail because you are a warchanterII. that's one of the benefits. you can wear medium armor with no spell fail

[whereispowderedsilve]

you have zero spell fail because you are a warchanterII. that's one of the benefits. you can wear medium armor with no spell fail

Oh jebus! Rofl! How embarrasing! >><<! In my defense that toon has been perma parked since the expansion hit so!

Totally forgot about that! Haha! Derp!

Will have to think about this more! Food for thought! Thanks for pointing that out Katz/Pointless! !

[katz]

lol. well like i said, if you can put up with the spell fail, go for it. blur and displacement are not effected by spell fail, for example. you might be able to craft something in cannith crafting that reduces spell fail, too. not sure on that. i'd have to check

[whereispowderedsilve]

lol. well like i said, if you can put up with the spell fail, go for it. blur and displacement are not effected by spell fail, for example. you might be able to craft something in cannith crafting that reduces spell fail, too. not sure on that. i'd have to check

This is relevant I *think*: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=316132

Just found that last night & it's updated! Cool beans eh? ! :P! ! xD! Cheers!

Also What/which mobs are immune to enthrall & song of capering anyone?

Keep those builds coming peeps please! Super appreciated!

[katz]

This is relevant I *think*: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=316132

Just found that last night & it's updated! Cool beans eh? ! :P! ! xD! Cheers!

Also What/which mobs are immune to enthrall & song of capering anyone?

Keep those builds coming peeps please! Super appreciated!

i checked. it is also in cannith crafting. -5% ASF on a ring, gloves, or trinket.


and what's immune to enthrall and song of capering? the same things that are immune to fascinate. orange/red/purple name mobs. vermin. undead. constructs (and these 3 can be overcome with the right enhancements/ED choices). anything mindless (or already effected by a mind effect, like those stupid giants in Prey on the Hunter). pretty much everything else is fair game.


i'm not big into PvP, but i do dabble on occasion, and i have discovered that few things p*ss a PvPer off worse than suddenly finding themselves dancing for the next 2 minutes from the bard who is clean on the other side of the room.

[Tristiann]

One thing about 15 vs. 16 in terms of Bard Level at 16 you get access to 2 level 6th spells and an additional 1st and 5th level...So then the question is what other 4 other classes to splash? well 4 levels of fighter would work well as you get the 3 extra fighter feats and more hps...

my 2 cents on the Virtuoso great for soloing and leveling but lacking some at end game I found maybe with the expansion that has changed... and the extra song just don't really matter as you will have soo many by the time ur 20...

Enthrallment is great but Fascinate does just about the same thing..
Sustaining Song is kind of weak in hps regen...
Song of Capering this is great and main reason to be Virtuoso but when I respected out of virtuo I just use the Otto's Irresistible Dance spell now

So you might want to think about Spellslinger...+4 to UMD and concentrate skills, +200 maximum Spell Points ... and songs to bring up urs, mates and raids caster levels and dc's

Spellsong Trance - +1 bonus to spell DC's and a 10% morale discount on spell costs
Song of Arcane Might - +1 bonus to caster level for spells cast by you and allies
Spellsong Vigor = mana crack

Or sticking with warchanter is fine too...

[DethTrip]

34pt build, HO THF. Take Overwhelming Critical and GTHF as epic feats. Adjust enhancements in epic levels to add Orc Great Weapon III. Also use Legendary Dreadnought ED with sense weakness and reign twisted. Self buffing (displacement being beast) dps machine. Enjoy.

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34pt 
Level 20 True Neutral Half-Orc Male
(6 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 12 Bard) 
Hit Points: 326
Spell Points: 325 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 13
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             20                    31
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                     6
Bluff                -1                     1
Concentration         3                     5
Diplomacy            -1                     1
Disable Device        5                    25
Haggle                3                     4
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate           -1                     5
Jump                  9                    25
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock             3                     4
Perform              n/a                   23
Repair                1                     2
Search                5                    25
Spot                  3                     4
Swim                  5                    10
Tumble                3                     4
Use Magic Device      3                    23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave


Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow


Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+6)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)


Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack III
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude I
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I

[katz]

I want virt this life not wc!

I want Min 15 bard levels for inspire heroics & inspire excellence the rest can be a combo

Level 20 True Neutral Half-Orc Male
(6 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 12 Bard)

Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II

looks like a nice, fun, powerful build, but not quite what the OP was searching for.

[whereispowderedsilve]

One thing about 15 vs. 16 in terms of Bard Level at 16 you get access to 2 level 6th spells and an additional 1st and 5th level...So then the question is what other 4 other classes to splash? well 4 levels of fighter would work well as you get the 3 extra fighter feats and more hps...

my 2 cents on the Virtuoso great for soloing and leveling but lacking some at end game I found maybe with the expansion that has changed... and the extra song just don't really matter as you will have soo many by the time ur 20...

Enthrallment is great but Fascinate does just about the same thing..
Sustaining Song is kind of weak in hps regen...
Song of Capering this is great and main reason to be Virtuoso but when I respected out of virtuo I just use the Otto's Irresistible Dance spell now

So you might want to think about Spellslinger...+4 to UMD and concentrate skills, +200 maximum Spell Points ... and songs to bring up urs, mates and raids caster levels and dc's

Spellsong Trance - +1 bonus to spell DC's and a 10% morale discount on spell costs
Song of Arcane Might - +1 bonus to caster level for spells cast by you and allies
Spellsong Vigor = mana crack

Or sticking with warchanter is fine too...

Hey Tris buddy/brother! ! Thanks for your input! I totally forgot you specced out of virt on Layfe and *into* ss! So you got some good knowledge of it!

I want to do virt at least while leveling up this tr life on goraiders & perhaps will switch it(the pre) around at cap for the raiding & epic XP/ED grinding!

Appreciate your feedback as always man! Thanks so much!

34pt build, HO THF. Take Overwhelming Critical and GTHF as epic feats. Adjust enhancements in epic levels to add Orc Great Weapon III. Also use Legendary Dreadnought ED with sense weakness and reign twisted. Self buffing (displacement being beast) dps machine. Enjoy.

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34pt 
Level 20 True Neutral Half-Orc Male
(6 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 12 Bard) 
Hit Points: 326
Spell Points: 325 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 13
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             20                    31
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                     6
Bluff                -1                     1
Concentration         3                     5
Diplomacy            -1                     1
Disable Device        5                    25
Haggle                3                     4
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate           -1                     5
Jump                  9                    25
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock             3                     4
Perform              n/a                   23
Repair                1                     2
Search                5                    25
Spot                  3                     4
Swim                  5                    10
Tumble                3                     4
Use Magic Device      3                    23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave


Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow


Level 11 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+6)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)


Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II
Enhancement: Kensei Falchion Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack III
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude I
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I

Aw Deth! Thanks so much man! >><< But as Katz posted out you missed a couple of key points that I was asking for!

Your Old Dabbler build rocks socks man! Running it on gobluejays my 1st ever TR on Orien!

looks like a nice, fun, powerful build, but not quite what the OP was searching for.

Thanks Katz! >><< I think deth was having a long day! He is a good guy! Appreciate you pointing out what I wanted for me!

Cheers everyone & please keep those builds coming/posting up! :P! ! ! Go the bards!!111

[InsanityIsYourFriend]

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Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
(4 Fighter \ 1 Barbarian \ 15 Bard) 
Hit Points: 304
Spell Points: 520 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 11
Will: 10

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             16                 24                   26
Dexterity            10                 12                   12
Constitution         16                 19                   19
Intelligence         10                 12                   12
Wisdom                8                 10                   10
Charisma             16                 19                   21

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               0                 17                   17
Bluff                 3                  5                    5
Concentration         5                 20                   20
Diplomacy             3                  5                   11
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                3                  5                    7
Heal                 -1                  0                    0
Hide                  0                  1                    1
Intimidate            3                  5                    5
Jump                  7                 12                   12
Listen               -1                  0                    4
Move Silently         0                  1                    1
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a               21                   27
Repair                0                  1                    1
Search                0                  1                    1
Spot                 -1                  0                    0
Swim                  3                  8                    8
Tumble                n/a                4                    4
Use Magic Device      5                 21                   21

Level 1 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Negotiator
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Perform (+7)
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
Feat: (Automatic) Fascinate
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Courage
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Improved Perform I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+5)
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I


Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+5)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Competence
Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Blur
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Improved Perform II


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Focusing Chant
Spell (2): Rage


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Suggestion
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Virtuoso I
Enhancement: Human Versatility III


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 11 (Barbarian)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Rage
Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Inspire Courage
Feat: (Automatic) Rage
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Greatness
Spell (2): Invisibility
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Haste
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II


Level 13 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Displacement
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II


Level 14 (Bard)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Song of Freedom
Spell (3): Good Hope
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Spell (4): Dimension Door
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song IV


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II


Level 17 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Virtuoso II


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Spell (4): Break Enchantment
Spell (5): Greater Heroism
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery III


Level 19 (Bard)
Spell (5): Shadow Walk
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Heroics
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery IV

NOTE at lvl 15 swap the level 3 feat negotiator, reset your enhancements to get virti AFTER extra song IV, the feat can be any feat you would like, its a free feat, if you want to swap more feats then you could get a meta magic, or you can just choose a tactical feat, maybe you just want 23 more hp? XD
LVL 21: Inspire Excellence
LVL 24: STR
LVL 24: Overwhelming Critical


thats just my 2 cents, I never create a build that I want someone to follow exactly, so change what you will

[DethTrip]

Aw Deth! Thanks so much man! >><< But as Katz posted out you missed a couple of key points that I was asking for!

Your Old Dabbler build rocks socks man! Running it on gobluejays my 1st ever TR on Orien!



Thanks Katz! >><< I think deth was having a long day! He is a good guy! Appreciate you pointing out what I wanted for me!

Cheers everyone & please keep those builds coming/posting up! :P! ! ! Go the bards!!111

Ya, lol, I didn't read the whole post. Glad you like the old dabbler build. I have a new one posted as well. Hope you get the build you want and have fun with it. Cheers.

[whereispowderedsilve]

Ya, lol, I didn't read the whole post. Glad you like the old dabbler build. I have a new one posted as well. Hope you get the build you want and have fun with it. Cheers.

No worries Deth it happens! My posts always tend to be long winded!

I will take a look and comment when I get the time, college is mad busy in the last 2 weeks!

Thanks again & if your bored feel free to post a build anytime! Cheers! :P! !

Also bump hoping that unbongwah to pop/poke his head in here with a build! xD!

Please keep the builds coming guys! I have only a remote idea of what I'm doing the more details the better(Idiot proof it for me! xD!)

I've always used builds off the forums for all my toons except for one & that didn't turn out so good! >>><<!

Thanks again everyone & very much appreciated!

[DethTrip]

Ok, hope this build is more of what you are looking for. Evasion is a powerful thing so yes, there are rogue levels. With good gear you will be able to do traps no problem. If you haven't used a tome in your past life, read a +1 cha tome at lvl 3 and wear a +2 cha item to reach cha 11 at lvl 3 and you will be able to cast first level spells. The build is somewhat of a min max build but it provides the things you asked for while maximizing melee dps. It will qualify for overwhelming critical so take that and inspire excellence as epic feats. I would use Legendary Dreadnought with sense weakness and reign twisted to maximize dps but that all depends on your play style. Enjoy!

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Level 20 True Neutral Half-Orc Male
(2 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 16 Bard) 
Hit Points: 280
Spell Points: 450 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 13
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             20                    30
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma              8                    12

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                    19
Bluff                -1                     1
Concentration         3                     4
Diplomacy            -1                     5
Disable Device        5                    25
Haggle               -1                     1
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                  2                     3
Intimidate           -1                     1
Jump                  9                    19
Listen               -1                     4
Move Silently         3                     4
Open Lock             3                    10
Perform              n/a                   33
Repair                1                     2
Search                5                    25
Spot                  3                     4
Swim                  5                    10
Tumble                0                     1
Use Magic Device      3                    24

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Hide (+3)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave


Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Perform


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave


Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+6)
Skill: Search (+2)


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow


Level 13 (Bard)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+3)


Level 14 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song IV
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV
Enhancement: Bard Virtuoso I
Enhancement: Bard Virtuoso II
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack III
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Improved Perform I
Enhancement: Improved Perform II
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery IV