WF defender

[oldnoob]

Has anyone try to build a WF tank before? Me and few friends it thinking to make a small group that all WF so Sorc can take up both controller and healer role. And not to worry about divine healing suck on WF. What do you guys think? Any one have a test build?

[unbongwah]

Did the Reconstruct nerf/bug get patched in U16? That was probably the biggest problem with playing a WF tank in an all-WF static group, given that you have an arcane for Repairs. Although the lack of "repair amp" is still a detriment to WF tanks vs human / HE tanks, IMHO.

Otherwise, a WF tank build is a lot like a regular tank, with all the usual tradeoffs: ftr or pally, pure or splashed, etc. About the only difference is whether you take a body feat.

[oldnoob]

Will mithral body be more beneficial than admentine body?

[unbongwah]

Will mithral body be more beneficial than admentine body?

Only if going for Evasion; and even then WF are kinda borked because Mithril Body's MDB remains fixed at 5 rather than scaling with level like the new light armor types do. At least their base AC scales with the min. level of their docents, but WF are (again) at a disadvantage compared to fleshie races.

I tend to waffle a lot on the optimal stats, feats, etc. for a tank. Nevertheless, in your case I would probably do something like this:

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Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male
(20 Fighter) 
Hit Points: 422
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 7
Will: 5

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             18                    28
Dexterity            11                    13
Constitution         18                    22
Intelligence         11                    13
Wisdom                6                     8
Charisma              6                     8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 20

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave


Level 5 (Fighter)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Warforged Brute Fighting I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Tactics I


Level 7 (Fighter)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Dwarven Waraxe


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Mastery


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender II
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III
Enhancement: Warforged Brute Fighting II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Sunder


Level 17 (Fighter)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Mobility


Level 19 (Fighter)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Trip
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Fighter Weapon Alacrity
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender III
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Sunder) I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) I
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
Enhancement: Warforged Brute Fighting III
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III
Enhancement: Warforged Tactics II

Epic feats: Overwhelming Critical and epic Toughness
ED: Legendary Dreadnought, ideally with Legendary Shield Mastery twisted in

DPS-focused, but with plenty of tactics options and pretty good HPs; relies more on WF threat amp than Intim, though. Since it's for a static all-WF group, I didn't bother with heal amp. As presented, MDB should cap at +7 (DEX 24): base 1 (Addy Body) + 2 Mobility + 2 SD III + 2 Greater Nimbleness slotted on epic docent; mithril tower shield will be base 4 + 3 SD III, so that balances out too. So depending on your max DEX (or final Dodge bonus), you may need extra armor and/or tower shield mastery enhs.

[oldnoob]

Thanks. That's exacually what I'm looking for.

[unbongwah]

You're welcome. BTW, you might want to check to see if WF are finally getting the correct PRR from their body feats. Not that I would necessarily drop Addy Body if they don't - under the new AC system, it's still at least semi-worthwhile, IMHO - but it'd be nice if Turbine had unnerfed at least a couple of WF shortcomings this time.