pure rogue or split?

[pandarider123]

ok im on another rogue life. was thinking of mixing it up. was thinking of going 16 rogue 2 monk 2 fighter. for handwrap use,alot more hp. think this would be good build or should stick with pure 20 rogue for cap stone? btw two epic feats will be epic toughness and improved sneak attack.

btw didnt really fill in skills*

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Level 20 Lawful Good Halfling Female
(2 Fighter \ 2 Monk \ 16 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 417
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 19
Will: 8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    14
Dexterity            16                    20
Constitution         16                    22
Intelligence         15                    15
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              8                     8

Tomes Used
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    11
Bluff                 3                    13
Concentration         3                     9
Diplomacy             3                     5
Disable Device        6                     8
Haggle               -1                     1
Heal                 -1                     1
Hide                  7                    21
Intimidate           -1                     1
Jump                  2                     6
Listen               -1                     3
Move Silently         3                    15
Open Lock             7                    11
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair                2                     4
Search                6                     8
Spot                  3                     5
Swim                  2                     4
Tumble                7                    11
Use Magic Device      3                     5

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Bluff (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Agility
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Bravery
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Keen Ears
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Luck
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Size Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Thrown Weapon Focus
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding


Level 2 (Rogue)
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip


Level 3 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Sneak of Shadows
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense


Level 4 (Rogue)
Feat: (Automatic) Trapmaking
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge


Level 5 (Rogue)


Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Precision


Level 7 (Rogue)


Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: CON
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Uncanny Dodge


Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion


Level 11 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) AC Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Breezes
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Candles
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Pebbles
Feat: (Automatic) Disciple of Puddles
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: DEX
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation


Level 13 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Finesse
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: CON


Level 17 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist


Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Rogue)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: CON
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Skill Mastery
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning III
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning IV
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile II
Enhancement: Halfling Guile III
Enhancement: Halfling Guile IV
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing II
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing III
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing IV
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy IV
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
Enhancement: Improved Hide I
Enhancement: Improved Hide II
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I

[unbongwah]

When it comes to Assassins, I say either stay pure or splash monk to use handwraps, like wowo's build; higher atk speed + Stunning Fist goes a long way towards making up for losing the capstone. The toughest part is figuring out how to balance your stats: you want to add Imp Sneak Atk as one of your epic feats if you can, but it req's base DEX 21; whereas before an Assassin only needed DEX 17 for ITWF/GTWF.

[.Revenga.]

With epic destinies the capstone has become relatively less important to do good dps. Don't feel too bad about giving it up. I'd either go for a 18/2 or 13/x/x split tho.

18 rogue for the assasinIII vorpal damage or 13 rogue for the 2 rogue feats, and acrobatII as prE i'd say.

The higher attack speed that the monk splash gives you is mandatory to keep up your dps.

[fco-karatekid]

I recommend taking two levels of Rogue for evasion and sneak att... err, wait.