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    The Hatchery sirgog's Avatar
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    One change to what I've said so far:

    I'm all in favor of riddles/puzzles that are an alternative to a fight, as long as there's no clear 'path of least resistance' that is much easier.

    As an example, Cabal for One (ok that's traps instead of a puzzle but you get the idea) - you can choose a harder boss fight or you can choose to have lots of traps. Below elite, neither option is clearly 'harder' or 'easier'. People do what they prefer in there. (Mostly people run the harder boss way because on elite that is the clear path of least resistance but on other difficulties the balance is right).
    I don't have a zerging problem.

    I'm zerging. That's YOUR problem.

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    The Korthos quest also has 2 ways : One way with Sauhagin, one way with poison.
    You choose.

    Riddles, I fear, won't be liked much by hack & slay players. As soon as the amount of riddles increases, we'll see rant thrads here, I bet. "Oh those stupid riddles !!!11!!111" and so on. Zergers won't like that, too.

    And I still want proper social interaction checks.
    "You are a Tiefling. And a Cleric, with the Domain of the Sun. Doesn't that contradict each other ?" "No, all my friends are playing evil. I found that so boring that I decided to be on the good side. And, besides, Sun and Fire, where is the difference, really ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlogUK View Post
    ... The end of that quest was a riddle, where you pulled the right valve to complete. It never changed, which made it very fast to farm, and testament to the fact that people just ignore the riddle and learn the right lever...
    There is an antidote to that, as the example below illustrates:

    Bridgekeeper: "Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see."
    Lancelot: - Ask me the questions, bridgekeeper. I am not afraid.
    "What... is your name?"
    - My name is 'Sir Lancelot of Camelot'.
    "What... is your quest?"
    - To seek the Holy Grail.
    "What... is your favourite colour?"
    - Blue.
    "Right. Off you go."

    AND now for something completely different...

    "What... is your name?"
    - 'Sir Robin of Camelot'.
    "What... is your quest?"
    - To seek the Holy Grail.
    "What... is the capital of Assyria?"
    - I don't know that! Arrrrrgggghhhh!

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