Gear to optimize Impl, Dest, BB, DP etc

[mikarddo]

Greetings

I am wondering which effects make FvS offensive spells the most effective and if those effects can be found on weapons/shields letting me swap weaponsets based on spells cast for maximum effect.

Ignoring +Wis gear I have the following list.

Implosion:
Evocation DC (+2 is easy to get - where do I find +3?)
Spell Pen (+2 is easy to get - where do I find +3? Alchememical Shield?)
3 part set bonus from Abishai gear (+3 to Spell Pen for Evoc spells - but not +3 DC as well as I understand it)

I am thinking that a +3 evoc DC 1h and and Alchemical Shield with +3 Spell Pen might be the best combo - assuming such items can be found.

Destruction:
Necro DC (+2 is easy to get - where do I find +3?)
Spell Pen (+2 is easy to get - where do I find +3? Alchememical Shield?)
Nullification +120 (I assume thats the correct type of spell power)
Superior Lore (but which kind of Lore would Destruction use?)

I am thinking that the Staff of the Necromancer might be a good plan (+3 necro dc, 2 spell pen, +102 Nullification) but I am curious if there are better combos.

Blade Barrier:
Evoc DC
Force Spell Power
Arcane Lore (unless I am mistake no specific Lore works on BB)

Divine Punishment:
Radiance Spell Power
Arcane Lore (are there any items that supply light specific Superior Lore?)

Any advice on gear to get to maximize each of those 4 spells is most welcome - in partular weapons/shields as that lets me swap based on spell cast.

[mute_mayhem]

Greetings

I am wondering which effects make FvS offensive spells the most effective and if those effects can be found on weapons/shields letting me swap weaponsets based on spells cast for maximum effect.

Ignoring +Wis gear I have the following list.

Implosion:
Evocation DC (+2 is easy to get - where do I find +3?)
Spell Pen (+2 is easy to get - where do I find +3? Alchememical Shield?)
3 part set bonus from Abishai gear (+3 to Spell Pen for Evoc spells - but not +3 DC as well as I understand it)

I am thinking that a +3 evoc DC 1h and and Alchemical Shield with +3 Spell Pen might be the best combo - assuming such items can be found.

Alchemicals can be made with +3 spell pen on the third tier, but I'd recommend a weapon so you can use it in either hand, depending on the situation.

Destruction:
Necro DC (+2 is easy to get - where do I find +3?)
Spell Pen (+2 is easy to get - where do I find +3? Alchememical Shield?)
Nullification +120 (I assume thats the correct type of spell power)
Superior Lore (but which kind of Lore would Destruction use?)

I am thinking that the Staff of the Necromancer might be a good plan (+3 necro dc, 2 spell pen, +102 Nullification) but I am curious if there are better combos.

You can find 1 handers with +3 necro, I've got a scepter with +6 radiance 120, +3 necro focus and spell pen IX. I wouldn't really worry about boosting the damage portion of destruction/slay living, since you're not aiming to use them as damage spells (unless for some reason you are, lol). But to answer your question, I don't think there is a specific lore for destruction, since it deals bane damage on a save, so arcane lore would likely be the only thing to affect it.

For +3 spell pen on necro spells, my FvS uses an epic torc and switches to a tier 3 alchemical when casting implosion.

Blade Barrier:
Evoc DC
Force Spell Power
Arcane Lore (unless I am mistake no specific Lore works on BB)

Divine Punishment:
Radiance Spell Power
Arcane Lore (are there any items that supply light specific Superior Lore?)

Any advice on gear to get to maximize each of those 4 spells is most welcome - in partular weapons/shields as that lets me swap based on spell cast.

You can get superior laceration lore which works for BB on a tier 2 alchemical.

Randomly generated armors/shields can have radiance lore. Epic luminous truth from the harbor chain also has superior radiance lore.

[Alkot]

impulse and kinetic lore now works for untyped damage spells cometfall bb etc.
And u can use superior radiance lore to get superior lore, just cant be found on weapons.

[mikarddo]

Thanks, so how does this sound?

Implosion:
+3 evoc 1h random loot gen
Tier 3 Alchemical w/ +2 wis and GSP
(Abishai 3 item set bonus for another +3 to spell pen)

Destruction:
+3 necro 1 h random loot gen
Tier 3 Alchemetical w/ +2wis and GSP (Epic Torc also offers GSP but not +2 wis)
(spell power and Arcane Lore in case the insta kill fails)

Blade Barrier:
+120 Impulse 1h random loot gen
Tier 2 Alchemical w/ +2wis and Superior Laceration Lore (I am getting conflicting info on Kinetic Lore working or not)

Divine Punishment (and other light spells):
+120 Radiance 1h random loot gen
Tier 2 Alchemical w/ +2wis and Superior Radiance Lore (the +2 wis isnt important for DP though but for other Light spells with DC checks)

Heals:
+120 Devotion random loot gen
Superior Healing Lore (Wall of Wood is one place to get that but many others as well)

I am wondering where the +3 evoc and +3 necro 1h drop. Do those only drop from EE? Any chance of finding them on the AH or are they too good to go there yet?

By all means correct any mistakes in the above as well as point to alternatives.

[mute_mayhem]

AFAIK kinetic lore does not affect BB, unless it's been changed in the past month or so since I last tested it.

On the topic of those alchemicals you listed, you cannot have both +2 wisdom and a superior lore on the same item. +2 wisdom is tier 2 martial water and the lores are tier 2 mystical.

The +3 focus 1 handers drop in random high level chests. I've found mine from EE dont drink the water and EEVoN6 during a +2 loot weekend with a +2 gem running. I wouldn't expect to see them on the AH all that often, I've traded a few for 5ish reds apiece.

[mikarddo]

AFAIK kinetic lore does not affect BB, unless it's been changed in the past month or so since I last tested it.

On the topic of those alchemicals you listed, you cannot have both +2 wisdom and a superior lore on the same item. +2 wisdom is tier 2 martial water and the lores are tier 2 mystical.

The +3 focus 1 handers drop in random high level chests. I've found mine from EE dont drink the water and EEVoN6 during a +2 loot weekend with a +2 gem running. I wouldn't expect to see them on the AH all that often, I've traded a few for 5ish reds apiece.

I see, thanks. Good thing I asked. Back to the drawing board then

[Inouk]

I see, thanks. Good thing I asked. Back to the drawing board then

Are you planning to gear swap between every cast? That seems... tedious.

[mikarddo]

Are you planning to gear swap between every cast? That seems... tedious.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=394959

[count_spicoli]

how do you plan on making an alchemical? That would require running lord of blades which noone ever does. At least not in the ddo world i am living in

[mikarddo]

how do you plan on making an alchemical? That would require running lord of blades which noone ever does. At least not in the ddo world i am living in

Good question. I dont know how hard it is as I havent ever tried that raid but I suppose I will bring the 3 other people in my guild that are of sufficient level (23-25) and have a go at it. If you fail miserably I suppose we will LFM and see if that helps.

Why dont anyone do this raid anymore though if those alchemicals are clearly top of the line?

[Brennie]

Implosion:
Evocation DC (+2 is easy to get - where do I find +3?)
Spell Pen (+2 is easy to get - where do I find +3? Alchememical Shield?)
3 part set bonus from Abishai gear (+3 to Spell Pen for Evoc spells - but not +3 DC as well as I understand it)

All this is good. For failed Implosions Impulse and Arcane lore will increase secondary damage.

Destruction:
Necro DC (+2 is easy to get - where do I find +3?)
Spell Pen (+2 is easy to get - where do I find +3? Alchememical Shield?)
Nullification +120 (I assume thats the correct type of spell power)
Superior Lore (but which kind of Lore would Destruction use?)

This is, again, Impulse and Arcane Lore for secondary damage. Only the Arcane version of death spells do Negative Energy damage.

Blade Barrier:
Evoc DC
Force Spell Power
Arcane Lore (unless I am mistake no specific Lore works on BB)

The highest lore for these is Laceration Lore, found only on Alchemical crafted items with Adamantine base (An Alchemical Adamantine tower shield isn't a terrible idea for a caster FvS or Cleric). If that seems unfun, greater arcane lore is your next best bet, especially if combined with the Archmage ToD set, which would effectively give you Major Arcane Lore when combined.

Divine Punishment:
Radiance Spell Power
Arcane Lore (are there any items that supply light specific Superior Lore?)

As others have said, Radiance Lore is a thing. It can be found on randomrolled Shields and armor in epic levels, and a few named items, including alchemicals.

My thoughts in yellow

[mikarddo]

Splendid info, thanks. Are there any other sources of GSP IX apart from alchemicals though? Similarly, are there other sources for +3evoc or +3necro apart from random loot gen weapons and the Staff of the Necromancer?