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    Default Help me fix my pc lag please

    My pc lag seems to have got worse lately, thought it was turbine lag (some of it is) but it gets worse round lots of mobs/action. Its starting to become unplayable.
    Any advice on this i can do/check without buying better hardware is appreciated thanks.
    Currenytl on windows xp, upgraded to windows 7 and had some extremely weird graphics issues i couldnt fix to went back.

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    Try lowering your graphics, disable all shadow options and post processing effects, increase the texture cache size but lower the texture details, lower the resolution, minimize the rendering distance, and last but not the least if the lag is so annoying that you feel like throwing your PC out of the windows, please stay away from House Jorasco. That will indeed save you few bucks.

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    Thanks for reply. I had already turnined down nearly everything, doesnt really help. Increase cache size to how much? it was on 0.10.

    Im thinking maybe it has something to do with my drivers, or maybe avast antivirus interferes or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by user110000 View Post
    Thanks for reply. I had already turnined down nearly everything, doesnt really help. Increase cache size to how much? it was on 0.10.

    Im thinking maybe it has something to do with my drivers, or maybe avast antivirus interferes or something?
    If you have a high enough memory say at least 6 GB then set it max 1.00, otherwise set it to 0.50-0.75 at least. Always disable antivirus softwares while playing the game. If you are facing lag because of crowds, then set the crowd quality to 0.00. Try upgrading graphics card driver, and if you are playing on laptop make sure it doesn't have over heating problems. Sometimes uninstalling the game and reinstalling again afterwards solved many lagged issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akash View Post
    If you have a high enough memory say at least 6 GB
    I have 2gb, i have set virtual memory to 4gb, apparently uses hard drive as a sort of ram?

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    Quote Originally Posted by user110000 View Post
    I have 2gb, i have set virtual memory to 4gb, apparently uses hard drive as a sort of ram?
    That might be the problem from my experience Windows 7 requires 2 GB to run properly while XP runs good even in 512 MB, that's why DDO is running slow after you have installed Windows 7. However if you have already went back to Windows XP then make sure to install Direct X properly, .net, graphics driver update is also necessary. I have found with each update DDO becomes slower, I think it's because of improved texture files and including other graphics heavy contents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akash View Post
    If you have a high enough memory say at least 6 GB then set it max 1.00, otherwise set it to 0.50-0.75 at least. Always disable antivirus softwares while playing the game. If you are facing lag because of crowds, then set the crowd quality to 0.00. Try upgrading graphics card driver, and if you are playing on laptop make sure it doesn't have over heating problems. Sometimes uninstalling the game and reinstalling again afterwards solved many lagged issues.
    i dont always disable antivirus maybe i should.

    setting crowd quality lower always sounded like a bad idea. Ive just set to 0.

    im playing on pc that was cleaned out a year ago, maybe i should look again.

    Reinstalled xp 6 months ago after a failed win 7 experiment, the graphics were horrendous, like the grphics were spilling out eb=verywhere, i couldnt even walk around my own ship...

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    Quote Originally Posted by user110000 View Post
    Thanks for reply. I had already turnined down nearly everything, doesnt really help. Increase cache size to how much? it was on 0.10.
    I have turned it all the way up and it has helped with a lot of the issues i got post u14.
    Give it a try and turn it back if it don't work for you (it depends on your disk swap).

    You seem to have checked the other things suggested in this thread.
    Remember all types of lag stacks, so checking all is worth the time, like sound drivers, etc.

    If you don't want to run in low graphics you may need or want a newer card.
    On my newer computer i found that a not-so-new radeon like the 63xx can do most of the dirty work.
    (cheaper than the newer ones)

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    If you are open to putting in a graphics card that will nail DDO, I'd go with the
    Radeon 6670. Single-slot, low power (gets all its power from the slot), with
    a street price around $70. This card should run the high-res client on "High"
    (with "Ultra-high" Object Draw Distance) without breaking a sweat. It will
    also run DX10/DX11 if you decide to upgrade to Win7/8.

    That said, you may want to try the standard-def client first, as this could
    push the lag bottleneck to your spindle. If you get nice, snappy performance
    from the standard-def client, then you could give the high-def client a go.

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    I adjusted many settings then with the downtime i copied the keymap files (or whatever they are called), uninstalled, deleted the folder from program files, reinstalled standard resolution in root directory and updated the game, now waiting for server to come back up to give it a whirl.
    Ill have to copy the files back over to keep my settings, dont think ive done that yet.

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    worlds are back up, fresh install, no changes whatsoever, graphics very high, all sorts of other settings appear to be high or very high yet running from my ship to crafting hall, the graphics are nice (i have a shadow, havent seen one of them in a while) and it appears to run quite smoothly. my hotbars etc are quite big though.

    Gonna leave it like this and jump into a crowded quest see what its like.

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    was a bit laggy running around eveningstar then went down to underdark same. brought graphics down to high, still a bit laggy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user110000 View Post
    was a bit laggy running around eveningstar then went down to underdark same. brought graphics down to high, still a bit laggy.
    Yeah there's the heavy duty public areas like those (house cannith, harbor, market, etc.)
    did u tried turning down object distance? agree it's a pain to toggle it when in and out of quests but see if it helps.

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    Ive decided to reinstall win xp cos i have a sound driver issue that i cant fix (theres a missing file i must reinstall manually to a certain location somewhere) it makes me bsod with sound on, had no sound now for months, that may be a cause of lag. So im gonna start fresh try and get all the drivers and possibly install into a partition. Starting new thread to try to get a quick answer.

    Thanks for the help folks.

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    Default one Solution for lag

    I used to have the same problem in my computer, here is what helped me:
    (my PC: 3Gb DD2-667,X2 4000+,8800GS)
    1. If u have windows7 64bit use TCPOptimizer with optimal settings (this helps with microlags, my game have become much faster) Maybe it works for winXP too I dont know.
    2. Start game and log in to any area then look around and press esc, then QUIT. When the game window closed restart the game using launcher and your game will be miles much faster (I dont really understand why, but most of my friends confirmed that this works and brings faster game experience even after you go to another area)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caca80 View Post
    2. Start game and log in to any area then look around and press esc, then QUIT. When the game window closed restart the game using launcher and your game will be miles much faster (I dont really understand why, but most of my friends confirmed that this works and brings faster game experience even after you go to another area)
    That is an operating system effect and not a game effect. It deals with caching of files.

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    I reinstalled winxp got all my drivers etc and was pretty much the same, then i reduced the screen resolution (which i had maxed to make hotbars smaller cos i use 13) and the performance seemed to increase a great deal.
    Quite annoyed with myself that i didnt lower screen resolution before but when i fiddled all i saw was bigger hotbars. Lowering graphics to very low didnt seem to have any effect.
    Im sure i was told to do so by you helpful folks but didnt realise the effect it would have.
    Anyone have any idea what it does apart from hotbar size because it doesnt seem to affect the actual game graphics at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by user110000 View Post
    Anyone have any idea what it does apart from hotbar size because it doesnt seem to affect the actual game graphics at all?
    Everything except the hotbars will simply scale when you change the resolution,
    so the picture basically looks the same, but the edges of everything will look
    more jagged. The hotbars can't scale because those little square images are
    a certain size in pixels, so when you reduce the resolution, they get bigger.
    Everything else is a 3D projection, so that stuff is simply re-rendered at a
    different scale. (You asked!)

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    And this reminds me of something I myself often forget...

    One of the biggest causes of client side load times and lag has to do with disk accessing. The amount of internal memory that is used to support a certain screen resolution is 1/4 less (or more) if you use half the resolution (in each direction, assuming the same colors) That means that any swapping of this memory to and from HDD such as with Virtual Memory may -greatly- be sped up on some systems. Also, more than one copy of this memory may be kept, memory management with all or some of this memory may be much faster especially on a busy system, and software (even the game) may be able to work with the screen much faster if the area it works with is smaller. (This depends a lot on how the software is written, to be sure.) There are a lot of wrinkles to this and it gets complex fast, but that's the basic idea.

    Bottom line, I have to remember to suggest lowering screen resolution as one way to lower some lag and load times.

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    I used to use a program called game booster http://download.cnet.com/Razer-Game-...-10913645.html on my old machine. Basically it shuts down all non-gaming related background programs to free up every bit of ram possible. You just run it before you start the game, then turn it off when you're through and it restarts all the things it stopped.

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