Silver Threaded Handwraps and Harry

[Thlargir]

So I crafted a set of +4 Holy Silver Threaded Handwraps of Evil Outsider Bane (the best that I can do with my current crafting levels) and they seem to break devil DR as expected.

However, they do not break Harry's DR (on hard - only test so far).

I must be missing something pretty obvious but can't tell what it is. Any help gratefully accepted.

[Osharan_Tregarth]

So I crafted a set of +4 Holy Silver Threaded Handwraps of Evil Outsider Bane (the best that I can do with my current crafting levels) and they seem to break devil DR as expected.

However, they do not break Harry's DR (on hard - only test so far).

I must be missing something pretty obvious but can't tell what it is. Any help gratefully accepted.

(His DR is) 15/good and 15/silver so you have half the equation there just need the good (holy or ect)

It sounds like he's got that base covered. However, if he's breaking devil dr but not Harry's, it sounds like the silver either isn't working, or he might have accidently crafted on the wrong set of handwraps.

I sorta kinda remember some of my guildies complaining about monk handwrap bugs a while back, but I haven't touched my monk for quite some time, so I'm not really sure if there are any current bugs.

[Thlargir]

It sounds like he's got that base covered. However, if he's breaking devil dr but not Harry's, it sounds like the silver either isn't working, or he might have accidently crafted on the wrong set of handwraps.

These are the handwraps in question.

[Artos_Fabril]

These are the handwraps in question.

Because they're handwraps, it doesn't list the traits on them like normal weapons. Equip them and make sure that it is adding both the "good" and "silver" traits to the damage types listed on the weapon damage portion of your inventory sheet.

Try equipping them, zoning, and checking again.
Un-equip and re-equip them, check again.

[Thlargir]

Because they're handwraps, it doesn't list the traits on them like normal weapons. Equip them and make sure that it is adding both the "good" and "silver" traits to the damage types listed on the weapon damage portion of your inventory sheet.

You are completely correct, for both sets (the other mobs I ran into must have been good only):
Bludgeon, Good, Magic, Byeshk

Is it therefore possible that the intrinsic monk Byeshk is overwriting (or filling) the slot for "metal" type?

[Thlargir]

These work as expected - notice the order of effects is different - does it matter what order you add the effects when Cannith Crafting?

[RabidApathy]

Have you actually tested the Cold Iron wraps on Lailat? Both your sets of wraps look like they were crafted on the broken metal bases. The ones that currently do work have an inherent +1 enchantment level, while yours appear to be the +0's. You may have noticed also that some of the metal wraps have a different color icon, while others don't.

I have no clue when the devs will get around to fixing this issue. I hope it's soon, but I'd not wager money on it.

[cave_diver]

Silver is broken again on crafted handwraps.....has been so since 15.1 or 15.2

[Arkat]

Silver is broken again on crafted handwraps.....has been so since 15.1 or 15.2

Confirmed.

[Osharan_Tregarth]

You are completely correct, for both sets (the other mobs I ran into must have been good only):
Bludgeon, Good, Magic, Byeshk

Is it therefore possible that the intrinsic monk Byeshk is overwriting (or filling) the slot for "metal" type?

Anything's possible, but I think this is the answer.

Silver is broken again on crafted handwraps.....has been so since 15.1 or 15.2

[Thlargir]

Anything's possible, but I think this is the answer.

Silver is broken again on crafted handwraps.....has been so since 15.1 or 15.2

How depressing,...

But not just silver, perhaps any metal type.

[Arkat]

How depressing,...

But not just silver, perhaps any metal type.

Confirmed. Cold Iron-studded wraps crafted with Holy or Holy Burst no longer breaks Goristros', Hezrous', or the Demon Web Renders' DR.

[RabidApathy]

Yeah, it appears to be a function of the bases that are dropping rather than crafting itself. The wraps on the left break adamantine DR, the ones on the right don't. Both types are currently dropping in game, including for the AML:20 varieties.

[Thlargir]

Yeah, it appears to be a function of the bases that are dropping rather than crafting itself. The wraps on the left break adamantine DR, the ones on the right don't. Both types are currently dropping in game, including for the AML:20 varieties.

Further confirmation that silver threaded wraps with the description:
"Some Monastic orders weave silver threads into their handwraps, to effectively combat monsters such as devils, lycanthropes, and vampires."

DO NOT break SILVER DR.

Those with the description:
"Strips of cloth meant to be wrapped around your hands."

DO break SILVER DR. [and carry the Detail: "Bludgeon, Silver, Magic, Byeshk" as expected (Byeshk from Monk)]

P.S. Well that only cost about 2/3M plat to figure out :-)

[Artos_Fabril]

Further confirmation that silver threaded wraps with the description:
"Some Monastic orders weave silver threads into their handwraps, to effectively combat monsters such as devils, lycanthropes, and vampires."

DO NOT break SILVER DR.

Those with the description:
"Strips of cloth meant to be wrapped around your hands."

DO break SILVER DR. [and carry the Detail: "Bludgeon, Silver, Magic, Byeshk" as expected (Byeshk from Monk)]

P.S. Well that only cost about 2/3M plat to figure out :-)

My silver threaded ones are of the latter variety, and apply all type bonuses correctly. Looks like the issue is in the table entry for the first type.

[Thlargir]

My silver threaded ones are of the latter variety, and apply all type bonuses correctly. Looks like the issue is in the table entry for the first type.

Indeed, looks like we have a winner!

That seems like a very simple fix, but how can you really tell?

Hopefully some Dev go-between can pass this on as if it is really as straightforward as simply changing a table entry to match an existing table entry the likelihood of side effects is small.

[Thlargir]

So I took my "Some Monastic orders..." Holy Silver Evil Outsider Bane and Holy Cold Iron Evil Outsider Bane crafted handwraps out for a test drive with the update (nothing in the release notes, but hope springs eternal) and they appear to have been fixed.

They did not break DR yesterday, but today I tested the former on vampires in the Orchard and the latter on Ice Flensers, Fire Reavers and Flesh Renders in Invaders!, and lo and behold yellow numbers turned to orange as hoped for!

The Details text was corrected last update and it seems that the metal property is being applied properly.

Please confirm in case I am delusional...

[Skeald]

Even the ones with the base of +1 are not workking correctly on my monk - metal types and crafting (holyburst in my case) are not breaking DR

[RabidApathy]

Even the ones with the base of +1 are not workking correctly on my monk - metal types and crafting (holyburst in my case) are not breaking DR

Ooh, this is news to me. I haven't done any testing lately, so this is very sad to hear. Oh well, this means prices will fall. Maybe I'll pick up some more pairs and sacrifice a goat as prayer for them being fixed soon.